California Kills Contract Trucking, Independent Truckers, Owner-Operators banned

[Billy_Bob]

You can't make this crap up... Old Gavin and his merry band of communists in Komifornia have dealt owner operators a get out of Komiefornia order. Now if you are not part of the UNION or a UNION company you can't pick up loads in California. Our supply chain is in shambles and these idiots kill even more of it..

California Law May Kill Thousands of Trucker Businesses, Worsen Supply Chain

Of course.

thefederalistpapers.org

 

[Noel Long]

You can't make this crap up... Old Gavin and his merry band of communists in Komifornia have dealt owner operators a get out of Komiefornia order. Now if you are not part of the UNION or a UNION company you can't pick up loads in California. Our supply chain is in shambles and these idiots kill even more of it..

California Law May Kill Thousands of Trucker Businesses, Worsen Supply Chain

Of course.

thefederalistpapers.org

I think workers need to be organised or else corporations just use and abuse them.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I think workers need to be organised or else corporations just use and abuse them.

NO... This is a control tactic. IF you're an independent contractor it's your decision if you want health insurance. This is not something that should be forced. All this does is make the union able to control the independent contractor. The union is what government controls... There is nothing good about this. Your either working for yourself or working for the union. F--k the union... I don't bow to them ass holes... ever... Just like I should not be forced to bow to government.

 

[dblack]

I think workers need to be organised or else corporations just use and abuse them.

And do you think the state should force them to do so?

 

[dblack]

The cruel irony is that the nominal targets of the legislation (Uber, Doordash, etc ..) are exempt.

"Ironically, companies like Uber and Lyft were exempted from AB5 with the subsequent passage of Proposition 22. But Brashier said he believes AB5 was always intended to force independent truckers into trucking companies, making them easier to unionize."

Independent California truckers scramble after Supreme Court refuses to hear AB5 case

A law designed to force gig-economy companies like Uber, Lyft and DoorDash to accept workers as employees is also having a profound impact on the trucking industry.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Billy_Bob]

We are already having major problems with getting things out of ports and into stores... This will make that process even worse. What a load of crap... This has always been about control and money... Money into a private business doesn't drive the criminal unions who pay millions to criminal democrats. That is precisely what this is all about. State Run means of production... What could go wrong?

 

[Failzero]

Vote out Democommies , sort out the RINOs afterwards

 

[Independent thinker]

You can't make this crap up... Old Gavin and his merry band of communists in Komifornia have dealt owner operators a get out of Komiefornia order. Now if you are not part of the UNION or a UNION company you can't pick up loads in California. Our supply chain is in shambles and these idiots kill even more of it..

California Law May Kill Thousands of Trucker Businesses, Worsen Supply Chain

Of course.

thefederalistpapers.org

Yup. Right on the heels of increasing the gas tax. I swear, California gets dumber and dumber by the day. Well, at least all illegals are getting free healthcare now but, remember, they are not for open borders.

 

[Noel Long]

And do you think the state should force them to do so?

No, it's individual choice.

 

[Noel Long]

We are already having major problems with getting things out of ports and into stores... This will make that process even worse. What a load of crap... This has always been about control and money... Money into a private business doesn't drive the criminal unions who pay millions to criminal democrats. That is precisely what this is all about. State Run means of production... What could go wrong?

Yes there are big problems of corruption in unions and govt, these are the enemy not the workers

 

[SavannahMann]

You can't make this crap up... Old Gavin and his merry band of communists in Komifornia have dealt owner operators a get out of Komiefornia order. Now if you are not part of the UNION or a UNION company you can't pick up loads in California. Our supply chain is in shambles and these idiots kill even more of it..

California Law May Kill Thousands of Trucker Businesses, Worsen Supply Chain

Of course.

thefederalistpapers.org

As usual. The hyperbole is strong. There is some truth. But it is not required to be a Union company.

Independent California truckers scramble after Supreme Court refuses to hear AB5 case

A law designed to force gig-economy companies like Uber, Lyft and DoorDash to accept workers as employees is also having a profound impact on the trucking industry.

www.cbsnews.com

So let’s talk about what is really going on.

The intention. And we can agree intentions are good. The intention was to insure the contract drivers for Lyft and Uber were properly compensated and offered the opportunity to get employer provided insurance. Ok. So the intention was to help protect contract drivers.

The people voted on a ballot initiative to restrict the law from applying to Uber and Lyft.

So the main target was exempted.

So what happened now? The Supreme Court refused to hear the challenge. So the Stay that had prevented the law from going into effect is being lifted. No reason to keep it on if there is no more legal challenges.

I read three articles on this to get more information than the obviously propagandist article linked in the OP. They say another challenge is going to be filed to stop the law from taking effect under the Commerce Clause. The same Commerce Clause that Republicans say doesn’t apply to their planned efforts to prevent women from crossing state lines to get an abortion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/29/abortion-state-lines/

Now. Is this a stupid law? Yes. Is it an effort to punish non union shops? Not seeing that. But why let a story go to waste.

 

[Billy_Bob]

As usual. The hyperbole is strong. There is some truth. But it is not required to be a Union company.

Independent California truckers scramble after Supreme Court refuses to hear AB5 case

A law designed to force gig-economy companies like Uber, Lyft and DoorDash to accept workers as employees is also having a profound impact on the trucking industry.

www.cbsnews.com

So let’s talk about what is really going on.

The intention. And we can agree intentions are good. The intention was to insure the contract drivers for Lyft and Uber were properly compensated and offered the opportunity to get employer provided insurance. Ok. So the intention was to help protect contract drivers.

The people voted on a ballot initiative to restrict the law from applying to Uber and Lyft.

So the main target was exempted.

So what happened now? The Supreme Court refused to hear the challenge. So the Stay that had prevented the law from going into effect is being lifted. No reason to keep it on if there is no more legal challenges.

I read three articles on this to get more information than the obviously propagandist article linked in the OP. They say another challenge is going to be filed to stop the law from taking effect under the Commerce Clause. The same Commerce Clause that Republicans say doesn’t apply to their planned efforts to prevent women from crossing state lines to get an abortion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/29/abortion-state-lines/

Now. Is this a stupid law? Yes. Is it an effort to punish non union shops? Not seeing that. But why let a story go to waste.

This law makes those who are not Union or not working for a large company that is unionized ineligible to drive within California. There is no hyperbole to this. This is what big union and big corporations want, no competition and forced compliance with what they want.

Again, a pro-union piece of crap meant to kill private contractors and owner operators.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I think workers need to be organised or else corporations just use and abuse them.

And if a worker agrees then then can do that. It should not be mandated by law

 

[buckeye45_73]

I think workers need to be organised or else corporations just use and abuse them.

That is rediculous, lots of people like contract work including truckers.

But no one has said why we need PUBLIC sector unions?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This law makes those who are not Union or not working for a large company that is unionized ineligible to drive within California. There is no hyperbole to this. This is what big union and big corporations want, no competition and forced compliance with what they want.

Again, a pro-union piece of crap meant to kill private contractors and owner operators.

AB-5 goes beyond that. You are not allowed to drive in the state with a truck older than ten years old due to what else, the environment.

The more it costs transportation companies, the more it costs businesses because they pass all their costs to the customer. It's just one more reason to move the hell out of the state. As for truckers, we are short over 60,000 drivers now. There is plenty of work in other states companies can do legitimate business in. So let the major companies form a monopoly. It will help the state go to hell faster than it is now.

 

[Resnic]

I think workers need to be organised or else corporations just use and abuse them.

You obviously know nothing of how trucking actually works.