California first state to ban natural gas heaters and furnaces

[basquebromance]

Congratulations. California is simultaneously (1) driving up costs for millions of low-income Californians & (2) hurting the environment (nat gas emits far less than coal-powered electricity).

California moves to be first state to ban natural gas heaters and furnaces

Story at a glance Natural gas use contributes to air pollution and can threaten gains made in the fight against climate change. This week, California implemented a plan aimed at phasing out the use…

thehill.com

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

When you go stupid, always double down.

 

[MisterBeale]

I don't get it.

How in the hell do they plan to warm themselves when they are cold?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

But don't run your air conditioner!!! Lmao, what dupes

 

[whitehall]

A lot can happen in the next 8 years. It's all political posturing and mostly bullshit.

 

[MisterBeale]

Do they think wood burning stoves and fireplaces emit less CO2?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Do they think wood burning stoves and fireplaces emit less CO2?

They already banned those... I wonder how the electric grid is going to hold up under all that new load. Do these retards ever think anything through? Plan an implementation? Before piling on the stupidity?

 

[MisterBeale]

ahhhh. . . it's California. Government. Of course.

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[Billy_Bob]

Natural Gas and Liquefied Petroleum Gas are the best forms of heat energy. Far less a problem than electrical generation using COAL... We even use them to generate electricity. What a bunch of idiots...

 

[MisterBeale]

You best not live in a place with shadows if you live in Cali it seems. . .

 

[Billy_Bob]

electric heat. Thats all good but conversion like this requires significantly increased power generation. Where are the new plants???

They are clear cutting the forests to make sure there is ample room for windmills that do not work..

 

[Canon Shooter]

What's funny is that democrats think that Newsom's going to have a snowball's chance in Hell of getting the democratic nomination in two years...

 

[g5000]

Congratulations. California is simultaneously (1) driving up costs for millions of low-income Californians & (2) hurting the environment (nat gas emits far less than coal-powered electricity).

California moves to be first state to ban natural gas heaters and furnaces

Story at a glance Natural gas use contributes to air pollution and can threaten gains made in the fight against climate change. This week, California implemented a plan aimed at phasing out the use…

thehill.com

From the link:

The new regulations will rely on adoption of heat pump technologies, which are being sold to electrify new and existing homes.

Heat pumps are far more efficient than natural gas heaters.

 

[Billy_Bob]

From the link:

The new regulations will rely on adoption of heat pump technologies, which are being sold to electrify new and existing homes.

Heat pumps are far more efficient than natural gas heaters.

LOL... Heat Pumps... DO these idiots realize that these units have to be in places that are above freezing to work? That once you get below freezing by a few degrees that they no longer work and you are left using coil elements to heat only?

These units require the coil outside to cool and pull energy from the air. At about 30 degrees F the air is too cold to warm the coils sufficiently to warm the inside of the home.

I had to remove one from my new home because we get down to -10 deg F often. the power usage for the heating coils triples the heat pumps wattage/amperage draw. My homes pump used about 40 amps but once the temperature dropped and it could no longer create heat it switches to all heat coils. My 1,800 foot house required 120 amps in coils to heat it. Heating bills in winter exceeded 900 a month.

SO instead of 150.00 a month to heat your home you get to pay near 1000.00 a month. I am sure every low-income family can afford this cost... On top of the cost to put these things in... Just like buying an EV cause gas is so expensive. These fucking idiots are going to kill millions with this stupidity.

 

[Blues Man]

From the link:

The new regulations will rely on adoption of heat pump technologies, which are being sold to electrify new and existing homes.

Heat pumps are far more efficient than natural gas heaters.

Still have to produce more electricity to run them.

And what do people do is the power goes out? Freeze?

 

[marvin martian]

From the link:

The new regulations will rely on adoption of heat pump technologies, which are being sold to electrify new and existing homes.

Heat pumps are far more efficient than natural gas heaters.

But they use electricity, a lot of electricity, which, as we know, California doesn't have.

Like everything you people do, this will hurt the working class and poor the most.

 

[Blues Man]

The colder it gets the less efficient heat pumps are.

Once you get below 40 the efficiency drops off precipitously

 

[22lcidw]

The good news is if the people cut down all the forests to keep warm there will be a great reduction in wildfires.

 

[MisterBeale]

electric heat. Thats all good but conversion like this requires significantly increased power generation. Where are the new plants???

Good question.

With more and more electric cars, they better get on that.