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Felons
Wife beaters
Stalkers with restraining orders
Fugitives
The seriously mentally ill
Dishonorable discharges....
Explain why any one of these people shouldn't have their 2nd amendment rights taken away.
The only thing that has "begun" is enforcement of the law in a meaningful manner.
Apparently you have little understanding of what could constitute a dishonorable discharge. It could simply be someone who simply refuses to follow orders in a non combat situation -where nobody is put into danger, and that my kooky liberal friend should not justify a person being stripped of their Constitutional Rights.
Hazelnut HAS to group everyone together, his lazy mind finds it easier that way.
· ·And so it begins.
California now has a law empowering the government to seize the firearms of people it disapproves of.
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most Americans are feeble-minded, uneducated, irresponsible Yahoos, with strong tendencies to hysteria,
do you consider yourself in that catagory?......hey just askin....· ·And so it begins.
California now has a law empowering the government to seize the firearms of people it disapproves of.···· ·
HOORAY!!!!
Every little bit helps, even so small a baby-step as this !!
Of course, if Americans were sensible, responsible Swiss citizens, then I suppose they could be trusted with firearms.
However, most Americans are feeble-minded, uneducated, irresponsible Yahoos, with strong tendencies to hysteria, so it is ridiculous that they should be trusted with dangerous weapons.
I still think confiscating guns is a mug's game, though. The main emphasis should be on controlling and restricting ammunition.
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And so it begins.
California now has a law empowering the government to seize the firearms of people it disapproves of.
It starts with the obvious ones that no one can object to, of course: Felons, non compos mentis... and people under restraining orders.
And the liberals assure us that the govt (that is, liberals) would never, ever seize the guns of anyone else. Why no, of course not.
Until they run across some group of people making plans to build up a truck-fertilizer bomb and park it on the Golden Gate Bridge. Well, of course it will be OK to seize their guns too. I mean, look at them! Maybe they haven't actually been convicted of any crime, but you know and I know it's just a matter of time. So we'll add them to the list.
And then the next.....
This has happened so many times throughout history, it's sad.
Except to liberals who KNOW that they, of course, would never continue such a pattern. So it's OK in their case.
And so it begins.
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Oh, BTW...
A very long time ago, I filed for divorce in California. It was granted, and my son lived with me for the next ten years until he went to college.
But during the proceedings, the judge entered standard restraining orders against myself and my wife, each telling us not to harass, bother, threaten, or commit violence upon the other. Both of us had stated repeatedly that there had never been any violence, threats, or any other such things, from either of us, ever. But the judge simply said these were routine restraining orders, that were always issued in any such divorce, don't worry about them.
At that instant, I became a felon, since I was a gun owner. The so-called "Lautenberg Amendment", a Federal law, stated that no one who is under a restraining order that mentioned domestic violence, could own a gun.
Half a year later, when the divorce became final, the judge routinely rescinded the orders. Seven years after that, the statute of limitations on my "felony" status ran out. Finally I could no longer be arrested or convicted for the felony I had committed by owning a gun while I (and my ex-wife) were under those "routine" restraining orders.
Today's point?
Under the law just signed by Gov. Moonbeam, I could expect armed police or even a SWAT team to break into my house at any time of the day or night to arrest me and confiscate my guns... if the restraining order issued during my divorce, were still active.
Because I would be a felon in possession of a gun I had (previously) legally acquired... exactly the target of this new law.
Remind me again, please, that "Nobody is coming for your guns, you stupid redneck"?
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Jerry Brown OKs funds to seize guns held illegally - Los Angeles Times
Jerry Brown OKs funds to seize guns held illegally
The governor approves $24 million to confiscate weapons from people who can no longer own them due to criminal convictions, restraining orders or mental illness.
May 01, 2013|By Patrick McGreevy, Los Angeles Times
SACRAMENTO The state will send dozens of new agents into California neighborhoods this summer to confiscate nearly 40,000 handguns and assault rifles from people barred by law from owning firearms, officials said Wednesday.
The plan received the green light Wednesday, when Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation providing $24 million to clear the backlog of weapons known to be in the hands of about 20,000 people who acquired them legally. They were later disqualified because of criminal convictions, restraining orders or serious mental illness.
The bill is the first of more than a dozen gun measures introduced by California lawmakers after the December massacre of 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
"This bipartisan bill makes our communities safer by giving law enforcement the resources they need to get guns out of the hands of potentially dangerous individuals," said Evan Westrup, a spokesman for the governor.
California is the only state in the nation to operate a database that cross-references gun owners with those who are subsequently disqualified from owning firearms. But budget cuts have prevented the state Department of Justice from keeping up with the list, which grows by 15 to 20 names every day, officials said.
And so it begins.
California now has a law empowering the government to seize the firearms of people it disapproves of.
Felons
Wife beaters
Stalkers with restraining orders
Fugitives
The seriously mentally ill
Dishonorable discharges....
Explain why any one of these people shouldn't have their 2nd amendment rights taken away.
The only thing that has "begun" is enforcement of the law in a meaningful manner.
Apparently you have little understanding of what could constitute a dishonorable discharge. It could simply be someone who simply refuses to follow orders in a non combat situation -where nobody is put into danger, and that my kooky liberal friend should not justify a person being stripped of their Constitutional Rights.
Hazelnut HAS to group everyone together, his lazy mind finds it easier that way.
What are you talking about? he is just refering to the U.S. 1968 gun bill.... Change the fricking law. it needs to be changed anyways. Why should a women who is now on meds because of a crazy ass ex-husband be denied a gun to protect her from her crazy ex-husband?
Until they run across some group of people making plans to build up a truck-fertilizer bomb and park it on the Golden Gate Bridge. Well, of course it will be OK to seize their guns too. I mean, look at them! Maybe they haven't actually been convicted of any crime, but you know and I know it's just a matter of time. So we'll add them to the list.
And so it begins.
California now has a law empowering the government to seize the firearms of people it disapproves of.
Felons
Wife beaters
Stalkers with restraining orders
Fugitives
The seriously mentally ill
Dishonorable discharges....
Explain why any one of these people shouldn't have their 2nd amendment rights taken away.
Who says they won't? It's the rest of them I'm worried about.
It'll be interesting to see how long it takes the State of California to abuse the broad definition of "mentally ill".
· ·And so it begins.
California now has a law empowering the government to seize the firearms of people it disapproves of.···· ·
HOORAY!!!!
Every little bit helps, even so small a baby-step as this !!
Of course, if Americans were sensible, responsible Swiss citizens, then I suppose they could be trusted with firearms.
However, most Americans are feeble-minded, uneducated, irresponsible Yahoos, with strong tendencies to hysteria, so it is ridiculous that they should be trusted with dangerous weapons.
I still think confiscating guns is a mug's game, though. The main emphasis should be on controlling and restricting ammunition.
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yea no shit but you do know its that not that hard to make ammo right?
A bunch, for personal use in my little glock 9mm and 12 guage remington shot gun, I am cheap bastard. but the problem is to mass produce. need capitol to do that. and again. not interseted to become a millionare just love fucking off and expermenting in my free time. [and of course I never use a spell checker]yea no shit but you do know its that not that hard to make ammo right?
How many rounds have you manufactured?
· ·And so it begins.
California now has a law empowering the government to seize the firearms of people it disapproves of.···· ·
HOORAY!!!!
Every little bit helps, even so small a baby-step as this !!
Of course, if Americans were sensible, responsible Swiss citizens, then I suppose they could be trusted with firearms.
However, most Americans are feeble-minded, uneducated, irresponsible Yahoos, with strong tendencies to hysteria, so it is ridiculous that they should be trusted with dangerous weapons.
I still think confiscating guns is a mug's game, though. The main emphasis should be on controlling and restricting ammunition.
.
Jerry Brown OKs funds to seize guns held illegally - Los Angeles Times
Jerry Brown OKs funds to seize guns held illegally
The governor approves $24 million to confiscate weapons from people who can no longer own them due to criminal convictions, restraining orders or mental illness.
May 01, 2013|By Patrick McGreevy, Los Angeles Times
SACRAMENTO The state will send dozens of new agents into California neighborhoods this summer to confiscate nearly 40,000 handguns and assault rifles from people barred by law from owning firearms, officials said Wednesday.
The plan received the green light Wednesday, when Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation providing $24 million to clear the backlog of weapons known to be in the hands of about 20,000 people who acquired them legally. They were later disqualified because of criminal convictions, restraining orders or serious mental illness.
The bill is the first of more than a dozen gun measures introduced by California lawmakers after the December massacre of 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
"This bipartisan bill makes our communities safer by giving law enforcement the resources they need to get guns out of the hands of potentially dangerous individuals," said Evan Westrup, a spokesman for the governor.
California is the only state in the nation to operate a database that cross-references gun owners with those who are subsequently disqualified from owning firearms. But budget cuts have prevented the state Department of Justice from keeping up with the list, which grows by 15 to 20 names every day, officials said.
This is so fucking awesome!!
GO CALIFORNIA --!!
