Bush Sr. killed Kennedy and framed Nixon

[elvis]

Did Bush Sr. Kill Kennedy and Frame Nixon? | AfterDowningStreet.org

I have as much proof as the 9/11 truthers have.

 

[elvis]

Here's even more proof. Come on eots, get a petition going. Arrest Papa Bush NOW.Did Bush help to kill JFK?

 

[elvis]

There should be enough evidence here for a conviction. After all, there's enough evidence to connect Bush and Cheney to 9/11.

 

[eots]

if you believe this theory or you think the evidence is equal to that of government complicity in the attacks then you can start a petition..I only make such statements after 1000 of hours of research until in was the only conclusion I could honestly give...just like these gentlemen of honored service and expertise and you are free to sign their petitions if you like


: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 600 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Letter to Congress regarding the 9/11 Commission Report 9/13/04, signed by the following 25 military, intelligence, and law enforcement veterans: National Security Whistleblowers Coalition


"[W]e the undersigned wish to bring to the attention of the Congress and the people of the United States what we believe are serious shortcomings in the report and its recommendations. …

Omission is one of the major flaws in the Commission’s report. We are aware of significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the commission by those of us with direct knowledge, but somehow escaped attention. …

The omission of such serious and applicable issues and information by itself renders the report flawed, and casts doubt on the validity of many of its recommendations. ...

The Commission, with its incomplete report of "facts and circumstances", intentional avoidance of assigning accountability, and disregard for the knowledge, expertise and experience of those who actually do the job, has now set about pressuring our Congress and our nation to hastily implement all its recommendations. ...

We the undersigned, who have worked within various government agencies (FBI, CIA, FAA, DIA, Customs) responsible for national security and public safety, call upon you in Congress to include the voices of those with first-hand knowledge and expertise in the important issues at hand. We stand ready to do our part." National Security Whistleblowers Coalition


Edward J. Costello, Jr. – Former Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI. Former Judge pro tem., Los Angeles, CA.


John M. Cole – Former Intelligence Operations Specialist, in the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division. In charge of FBI’s foreign intelligence investigations covering India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. 18-year FBI career.


Mark Conrad, JD – Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations. Former Federal Sky Marshall. 27-year U.S. Customs career. Currently Associate General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents. Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University.


Rosemary N. Dew – Former Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism and Counterintelligence, FBI. Former member of The President's National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (NSTAC) and the Electronic Commerce/Cyber Crime Working Group. 13-year FBI career.


Bogdan Dzakovic – Witness before the 9/11 Commission. 14-year Counter-terrorism expert in the Security Division of the Federal Aviation Administration. Team Leader of the FAA's Red (Terrorism) Team, which conducted undercover tests on airport security through simulated terrorist attacks. Former Team Leader in the Federal Air Marshal program. Former Coast Guard officer. (See also individual statement above.)


Sibel D. Edmonds – Witness before the 9/11 Commission. Former Language Translation Specialist, performing translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations, FBI. (See also individual statement above.)


Steve Elson – Former Special Agent with the U.S. Navy and the FAA. Specialist in Counterterrorism, Intelligence, and Security. Twenty-two years military experience, primarily in Naval Special Warfare and nine years Federal service with the FAA and DEA. Retired Navy SEAL. (See also individual statement above.)


David Forbes – Former head of Thames Valley Police Fraud Squad, trained at New Scotland Yard. Over 30 years experience in law enforcement, commercial and industrial security-related risk management, and service sector business management. Currently Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analyst, BoydForbes, Inc.


Melvin A. Goodman – Former Division Chief and Senior Analyst at the Office of Soviet Affairs, CIA,1966 - 1990. Senior Analyst at the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, State Department, 1974 - 1976. Professor of International Security at the National War College 1986 - 2004. Currently Senior Fellow at the Center for International Policy and Adjunct Professor of International Relations at Johns Hopkins University. He is the author and co-author of five books on international relations. (See also individual statement above.)


Mark Graf – Former Security Supervisor, Planner, and Derivative Classifier, Department of Energy. Former Chairman of the Rocky Flats (DOE) Physical Security Systems Working Group from 1990 through 1995.


Gilbert M. Graham – Retired Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI. 24-year FBI career.


Diane Kleiman – Former Special Agent, US Customs.


Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force veteran. (See also individual statement above.)


Lynne A. Larkin – Former CIA Operations Officer. Served in several CIA foreign stations and in the CIA's counter-intelligence center helping chair a multi-agency task force and seminars on coordinating intelligence among intelligence and crime prevention agencies.


David MacMichael, PhD – Former Senior Estimates Officer with special responsibility for Western Hemisphere Affairs at the CIA's National Intelligence Council. Former Captain, U.S. Marine Corps.


Raymond L. McGovern – Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA, responsible for preparing the President’ Daily Brief (PDB) for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. 27-year CIA veteran. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. (See also individual statement above.)


Theodore J. Pahle – Former Senior Intelligence Officer with the Defense Intelligence Agency. His 37-year intelligence career was exclusively as a HUMINT (Human Intelligence) operations officer with DIA, Office of Naval Intelligence and U.S. Army Intelligence. He is a Middle East and Latin American operations specialist. Today, he continues to support the HUMINT effort as a contract instructor.


Behrooz Sarshar – Retired Language Translation Specialist, performing Farsi translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations dealing with Iran and Afghanistan, FBI.


Brian F. Sullivan – Retired Special Agent and Risk Management Specialist, FAA. Retired Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police.


Commander Larry J. Tortorich, U.S. Navy (ret) – Former Deputy Program Manager for Logistics – Tomahawk Cruise Missiles. 24-year Navy career in the fields of aviation and counterterrorism. Two years as a federal employee with DHS/TSA in the fields of security and counterterrorism.


Jane A. Turner – Retired Special Agent, FBI. 24-year FBI career.


John B. Vincent – Retired Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI. 27-year FBI career.


Fred Whitehurst, JD, PhD – Retired Supervisory Special Agent / Laboratory Forensic Examiner, FBI. 16-year FBI career. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.


Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army (ret) – Retired Army officer and former U.S. Diplomat. Served 13 years on active duty with the U.S. Army and 16 years in the U.S. Army Reserves. She was a member of the International law team in Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada and served in Panama and Somalia. She joined the Foreign Service in 1987 and served as Deputy Chief of Mission of U.S. Embassies in Sierra Leone, Micronesia and Afghanistan. She helped reopen the US Embassy in Kabul in December, 2001. One of three U.S. State Department officials to publicly resign in direct protest of the invasion of Iraq in March, 2003. (See also individual statement above.)


Matthew J. Zipoli – Special Response Team (SRT) Officer, DOE. Vice President, Security Police Officer's Association, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

IDIOT....

 

[elvis]

I don't believe either theory. I was unaware you put 1000's of hours into this.

 

[DiveCon]

I don't believe either theory. I was unaware you put 1000's of hours into this.

all that time and he still got it WRONG
LOL

 

[eots]

I don't believe either theory. I was unaware you put 1000's of hours into this.

all that time and he still got it WRONG
LOL

HOW WOULD YOU KNOW DIPSHIT ?...oh right you read popular mechanics

 

[elvis]

so these conspiracy theorists have Prescott Bush supporting Hitler, George HW Bush killing Kennedy and framing Nixon, and George W killing JFK Jr., blowing up the WTC, shooting a missile into the pentagon, and shooting down flight 93 once Beamer took control of it.

did I miss anything?

 

[DiveCon]

I don't believe either theory. I was unaware you put 1000's of hours into this.

all that time and he still got it WRONG
LOL

HOW WOULD YOU KNOW DIPSHIT ?...oh right you read popular mechanics

a dipshit calling me one
LOL
too damned ironic

 

[eots]

the biggest certainty is the official story does not add up on far to many levels..it is simply not true and this fact is backed up with both NIST directors and 9/11 commission members that felt there was a cover up and important information and testomony omitted...for example the stand down order...a 28 min discrepancy between witness statements and the official time line is not acceptable ...especially when added to all the other inconsistencies...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suKKhDWbnSk[/ame]

 

[elvis]

taken out of context. It's been shown a million times.

 

[DiveCon]

the biggest certainty is the official story does not add up on far to many levels..it is simply not true and this fact is backed up with both NIST directors and 9/11 commission members that felt there was a cover up and important information and testomony omitted...for example the stand down order...a 28 min discrepancy between witness statements and the official time line is not acceptable ...especially when added to all the other inconsistencies...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suKKhDWbnSk

there was no stand down order
the F-16's didnt get there in time
sheeesh

 

[elvis]

the biggest certainty is the official story does not add up on far to many levels..it is simply not true and this fact is backed up with both NIST directors and 9/11 commission members that felt there was a cover up and important information and testomony omitted...for example the stand down order...a 28 min discrepancy between witness statements and the official time line is not acceptable ...especially when added to all the other inconsistencies...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suKKhDWbnSk

there was no stand down order
the F-16's didnt get there in time
sheeesh

No, Bush Jr ordered the stand down on 9/11 and GHWB ordered the secret service to stand down in Dallas in 1963, leaving the person behind the grassy knoll (probably Prescott) a clear shot.

 

[DiveCon]

the biggest certainty is the official story does not add up on far to many levels..it is simply not true and this fact is backed up with both NIST directors and 9/11 commission members that felt there was a cover up and important information and testomony omitted...for example the stand down order...a 28 min discrepancy between witness statements and the official time line is not acceptable ...especially when added to all the other inconsistencies...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suKKhDWbnSk

that doesnt prove what you claimed
he never said there was a stannd down order given
LOL
typical troofer lies

 

[CrimsonWhite]

Everytime I think of eots, I think of that old guy in the movie Shooter. The once that when asked if he knows for certain that the guys are on the grassy knoll are buried in the desert and he says, "still got the shovel."

 

[eots]

the biggest certainty is the official story does not add up on far to many levels..it is simply not true and this fact is backed up with both NIST directors and 9/11 commission members that felt there was a cover up and important information and testomony omitted...for example the stand down order...a 28 min discrepancy between witness statements and the official time line is not acceptable ...especially when added to all the other inconsistencies...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suKKhDWbnSk

that doesnt prove what you claimed
he never said there was a stannd down order given
LOL
typical troofer lies

so omitted testomony and 28 min discrepancies...that would indicate a stand down order are irrelevant to divecon...no wonder you hold the opinions you do with standards like that

 

[Toro]

Well done for uncovering this dastardly plot.

All the world's actions are controlled by three people. We know that Bush is one of them. I know the other two but can't tell you on a message board because its a secret. Unless you PM me. Then its OK.

 

[editec]

The trouble with history is we know we simply don't know it all.

Hence conspiracy theories are often seeking to the connect dots to make sense of what we do know.

Now often those dots DO exist in history, and one can often connect them in interesting and even plausible ways that are very satisfying explainations for what we posit has happened, too.

But that doesn't necessarily mean those plausible lines of reasoning are correct.

Have any of you EVER been accused of doing something that you did not do?

A case where you might have have motive and opportunity, but nevertheless you know perfectly well that you had nothing to do with the event?

Well that's kind of what happens in some conspiracy theories.

It's not that the dectective isn't smart or that his facts are wrong, it's just that he's connecting dots that really were never connected in history, or is missing dots which, had they been connected, would have lead him to completely other conclusions.

Plenty of innocent people go to prison based on powerful circumstantial evidence.

The thing is it's those dots we don't know about (or those dots which we see but don't fully understand) which screw us up, folks.

Historical analysis is a very speculative hobby.

Honest historians seek to avoid leaping to conclusions about what history means and simply try to unearth the facts.

Maintaining such objective detachment is, of course, rather difficult.

But if one comes at the task of a historian with presuppositions and an attitude, then one can always find data which suppports one's presuppositions and justifiies one's attitude.

Being wrong about a fact is no crime for a historian.

Like any other science (I'm using the word science now, as it was originally intented) historians are always willing to learn a new fact or relearn a fact they'd gotten wrong.

But being wrong about a CONCLUSION about history, is something historians desperately seek to avoid.

Why?

Because concluding history is not really the JOB of historians.

What historians do is PROPOSE theories about history much like scientists propose scientific theories.

In that sense, folks all history is really revisionist history, just as in the hard sciences all scientific theories are recognized as possible wrong and subject to further investigation as new facts come to light.

So we should not more DISMISS conspiracy theories out of hand, than we should DISMISS out of a hand new scientific theory.

But we should come at those theories with the same sense of objective scepticism as we do to radically new scientific discoveries.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Here's even more proof. Come on eots, get a petition going. Arrest Papa Bush NOW.Did Bush help to kill JFK?

yeah BUSH SR had JFK killed.Its a known fact that he was a CIA operative back then.Matter of fact there is a photo taken back then that shows a pic of Bush right by the door of the texas school book depository that day at Dealy Plaza that day.That was why he later got promoted to CIA director was for his role in the assassination and then later of course the ulitmate role-the presidency of course.

There is a huge article on it I WOULD post for you but since your so much in denial about government conspiracys and bury your head in the sand when shown evidence,no sense in me posting it for you.there was a video at youtube that they have since deleted called-THE JFK BUSH CONNECTION.youtube is always deleting important stuff like that so people like you will keep their heads buried in the sand.Oh and dont know where you get this nonsense he had Nixon framed,Nixon was in on it as well.He ran secret covert activities for the CIA when he was vice president under Eisenhower in vietnam.They were running secret wars then that they kept Eisenhower out of the loop on.Nixon and LBJ were buddies and both in on it and thier other buddie J EDGAR HOOVER covered it up of course.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

There should be enough evidence here for a conviction. After all, there's enough evidence to connect Bush and Cheney to 9/11.

problem is presidents can get away with anything especially when congress is corrupt and has been bought off and paid for.uh are you forgetting clinton and nixon lied under oath and yet never went to prison something YOU would go to prison for?theres one different law for politicians and one different for citizens since you have had your head buried in the sand and ditched and flunked out of history class obviously.