Bush is a goner

tpahl

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When George Bush loses (not to John Kerry, by the way, but all by himself), the neocons won’t be reading the critiques, articles, and obituaries – all of them – that we write. They are going to be too busy.

Who could possibly be more grateful to the Neocons than President-elect John Kerry? Without Bush’s fanatical foray into Iraq, we’d already be exiling Kerry to that same mausoleum where we put McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, and Gore. House of Has-Beens galore.

Kerry owes the neocons – major league, big time. And let’s face it, he doesn’t differ from Bush one iota with regard to any of the nefarious disasters that the neocons wrought – Kerry just objects to the cast of characters, not to the plot or the play. They will fit in perfectly with the flim-flam man and the swift-boat clan.

And neocons are smart, flexibly so, in a politically agile way. As the neocon rats have been bailing for months from the sinking ship, the USS "Mission Accomplished," you can bet they haven’t been idle. They have doubtless made many contacts at many levels with their old pals, fellow Democrats all, in the Kerry Administration-to-be. And they have one succinct argument that cannot be ignored by any Democrat who remembers Sam Rayburn: "John, you wouldn’t be here without us. We’re the ones who have brung ya to the dance. So dance with us."
 
As the neocon rats have been bailing for months from the sinking ship, the USS "Mission Accomplished," you can bet they haven’t been idle. They have doubtless made many contacts at many levels with their old pals, fellow Democrats all, in the Kerry Administration-to-be.

So neocons are Democrats. That makes perfect sense.




Wow.......
 
Tpahl---instead of getting pisssed every time election day rolls around, why doesn't your candidate either play the game better or find a way to beat the game itself ? Why should someone vote for a candidate who does neither?
 
DKSuddeth said:
Isn't 'neocon' just a term for a reagan era democrat? Thats the impression I was under. :scratch:

Sort of. Neoconservatism is the conservative movement that was spurred by Reagan in the '80's, but neocon doesn't have to be a democrat that follows it. This is just an attempt by some people to come up with a "dirty word" for conservatives like liberal has become a dirty word in itself.
 
DKSuddeth said:
Isn't 'neocon' just a term for a reagan era democrat? Thats the impression I was under. :scratch:


neocon is used in place of "neoconservative", by a user who considers himself "cool" when doing so.

A neoconservative is "a former liberal espousing political conservativism".

Most who use the term neocon don't have a clue what the fuck they're talking about. They think using that term will somehow give people the impression they do know. But in tpahl case, he appears clueless also.
 
dilloduck said:
Tpahl---instead of getting pisssed every time election day rolls around, why doesn't your candidate either play the game better or find a way to beat the game itself ? Why should someone vote for a candidate who does neither?

Try to stay on topic.
 
Pale Rider said:
neocon is used in place of "neoconservative", by a user who considers himself "cool" when doing so.

Or someone who likes to shorten 15 letter words.

A neoconservative is "a former liberal espousing political conservativism".

It is a conservative that is more concerned with a hawkish foriegn policy than limited government. They may or may not espouse a liberal domestic policy.

Most who use the term neocon don't have a clue what the fuck they're talking about. They think using that term will somehow give people the impression they do know. But in tpahl case, he appears clueless also.

I am not clueless and the author of that article was not only not clueless but used the word appropriately. Are you upset that the people you support are being called neocons? Or are you upset that he said they will not win?
 
tpahl said:
Or someone who likes to shorten 15 letter words.



It is a conservative that is more concerned with a hawkish foriegn policy than limited government. They may or may not espouse a liberal domestic policy.



I am not clueless and the author of that article was not only not clueless but used the word appropriately. Are you upset that the people you support are being called neocons? Or are you upset that he said they will not win?

no
 
tpahl said:
I am not clueless and the author of that article was not only not clueless but used the word appropriately. Are you upset that the people you support are being called neocons? Or are you upset that he said they will not win?

Okay, but what does that have to do with -=D=-'s cat?

:poke:
 
tpahl said:
Says Republican Neocoms and Bush to Lose to Kerry


The Democrats are going to need more than therapy after November election:

The Pressure-Cooker Theory

By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, August 27, 2004; Page A21

Upon losing a game at the 1925 Baden-Baden tournament, Aaron Nimzowitsch, the great chess theoretician and a superb player, knocked the pieces off the board, jumped on the table and screamed, "How can I lose to this idiot?"

Nimzowitsch may have lived decades ago in Denmark, but he had the soul of a modern American Democrat. After all, Democrats have been saying much the same -- with similar body language -- ever since the erudite Adlai Stevenson lost to the syntactically challenged Dwight Eisenhower in 1952. They said it again when they lost to that supposed simpleton Ronald Reagan. Twice, would you believe? With George W. Bush, they are at it again, and equally apoplectic.

Actually, this time around, even more apoplectic. The Democrats' current disdain for George Bush reminds me of another chess master, Efim Bogoljubov, who once said, "When I am White, I win because I am White" -- White moves first and therefore has a distinct advantage -- "when I am Black, I win because I am Bogoljubov." John Kerry is a man of similar vanity -- intellectual and moral -- and that spirit thoroughly permeates the Democratic Party.

Democrats feel a mixture of horror and contempt for the huddled masses -- so bovine, so benighted, so besotted with talk radio -- who made a king of an empty-headed movie star (Reagan, long before Arnold) and inexplicably want the Republicans' current nitwit leader to have a second term.

Historians will have a field day trying to fathom the depths of detestation that the Democrats are carrying into this campaign. Vanity is only part of it. What else is at play? First, and most obviously, revenge. Democrats have convinced themselves that Bush stole the last election. They cannot bear suffering not just a bad presidency but an illegitimate one.

Moreover, against all expectations, it turned out to be a consequential presidency. Bush was not the mild-mannered, Gerald Ford-like Republican he was expected to be -- transitional and minor. He turned out to be quite the revolutionary, most especially in his radical reordering of American foreign policy. A usurper is merely offensive; a consequential usurper is intolerable.

But that is still not enough to account for the level of venom today. It is not often that a losing presidential candidate (Al Gore) compares the man who defeated him to both Hitler and Stalin. It is not often that a senior party leader (Edward Kennedy) accuses a sitting president of starting a war ("cooked up in Texas") to gain political advantage for his reelection.

The loathing goes far beyond the politicians. Liberals as a body have gone quite around the twist. I count one all-star rock tour, three movies, four current theatrical productions and five bestsellers (a full one-third of the New York Times list) variously devoted to ridiculing, denigrating, attacking and devaluing this president, this presidency and all who might, God knows why, support it.

How to explain? With apologies to Dr. Freud, I propose the Pressure Cooker Theory of Hydraulic Release.

The hostility, resentment, envy and disdain, all superheated in Florida, were not permitted their natural discharge. Came Sept. 11 and a lid was forced down. How can you seek revenge for a stolen election by a nitwit usurper when all of a sudden we are at war and the people, bless them, are rallying around the flag and hailing the commander in chief? With Bush riding high in the polls, with flags flying from pickup trucks (many of the flags, according to Howard Dean, Confederate), the president was untouchable.

The Democrats fell unnaturally silent. For two long, agonizing years, they had to stifle and suppress. It was the most serious case of repression since Freud's Anna O. went limp. The forced deference nearly killed them. And then, providentially, they were saved. The clouds parted and bad news rained down like manna: WMDs, Abu Ghraib, Richard Clarke, Paul O'Neill, Joe Wilson and, most important, continued fighting in Iraq.

With the president stripped of his halo, his ratings went down. The spell was broken. He was finally, once again, human and vulnerable. With immense relief, the critics let loose.

The result has been volcanic. The subject of one prominent new novel is whether George W. Bush should be assassinated. This is all quite unhinged. Good God. What if Bush is reelected? If they lose to him again, Democrats will need more than just consolation. They'll need therapy.
 
I believe it is racist to let the white pieces move first. we need to change the rules to be more fair.
 

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