Burning rubber

[GLASNOST]

Lol, you did no drag racing or else you would understand.

Don't be stupid.

 

[GLASNOST]

You're probably just joking about weed in 'Nam..

No, I'm not joking about that. It's true. I only smoked two joints. One in Cam Ranh Bay and one in Nha Trang.

..but Red Strip LAGER is a beer. Since you've said you're not in the U.S. I'm not sure if you knew that or not.

THAT I didn't know.

 

[evenflow1969]

Don't be stupid.

Lol, just lol.

 

[GLASNOST]

I did quite a lot of drag racing back in the 60s and early 70s. Mostly on the street but at the strip on week-ends too. I haven’t done any of that since I left the states so maybe you guys can tell me … what is this shit with burn-outs in town? What’s the joy of melting your tires down to the rims and people shouting “Yipee!”? I don’t get it and it literally stinks.

Lol, you did no drag racing or else you would understand.

In town, jerkwad.

 

[evenflow1969]

In town, jerkwad.

Lol, laughing even harder.

 

[sparky]

My roomie and I did 13's w/ 327 ci 202 heads, cammed, 650 holley quadrajet in a '64 Chevy ......~S~

 

[GLASNOST]

Lol, laughing even harder.

Go play with the children now.

 

[evenflow1969]

Go play with the children now.

Lol, some one getting huffy. Hilarious

 

[Robert W]

I did quite a lot of drag racing back in the 60s and early 70s. Mostly on the street but at the strip on week-ends too. I haven’t done any of that since I left the states so maybe you guys can tell me … what is this shit with burn-outs in town? What’s the joy of melting your tires down to the rims and people shouting “Yipee!”? I don’t get it and it literally stinks.

I also was a drag racer on sanctioned traps most of the time. I have never understood melting tires off the rear of the car.

 

[Robert W]

1975

That's for sure! I look at You Tube every day. What is this crap with two and three GMC blowers stacked on top of one another and slicks as wide as Aunt Jemima's buttocks!

Wide rear tires on dragsters are to stop them from burning rubber.

 

[GLASNOST]

Wide rear tires on dragsters are to stop them from burning rubber.

No they're not.

 

[jackflash]

I did quite a lot of drag racing back in the 60s and early 70s. Mostly on the street but at the strip on week-ends too. I haven’t done any of that since I left the states so maybe you guys can tell me … what is this shit with burn-outs in town? What’s the joy of melting your tires down to the rims and people shouting “Yipee!”? I don’t get it and it literally stinks.

I too REALLY APPRECIATE the horsepower & especially the TORQUE for "Street Domination". Horsepower/Torque/street racing easily became my 2nd strongest addiction I have ever encountered. Below, they are more organized today than we street racers were back in the early to mid 70's;

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In the early to mid 70's in Spokane we matched up in fairly remote areas in & around the city of Spokane. Eventually the combination of Sheriff Deputies(back country roads), State Patrol(interstate /highways) city police(everywhere) drove us out of the area. A slightly older guy tipped us off about a place called Sheep Lake down south of Spokane county about 8/9 miles S/E of Sprague Washington. We found the area on Rd. 23 & it was what he said it was, a bypassed two lane road that had a great surface. We also found the graveled return road that came back around into Rd. 23 just a short ways past(behind) the starting line area. Unfortunately for us we also verified his warnings about narrow lanes on Rd. 23, Mule deer by the numbers & an abundance of rattlesnakes. It was fun while it lasted but all eras have to die out.

Regarding profe$$ional drag racingThe AA/FA were my favorite class back in the 60's until the funny car class canceled them out in the early 70's, just as pro stock cancelled out the Gassers. Below Iron Mike Boyd takes the resurrected "Winged Express" out for a night run!



Below an image(3:35 into vid) of the WELL USED original "Winged Express" before she was even named the "Winged Express"!!!

 

[GLASNOST]

I too REALLY APPRECIATE the horsepower & especially the TORQUE for "Street Domination". Horsepower/Torque/street racing easily became my 2nd strongest addiction I have ever encountered. Below, they are more organized today than we street racers were back in the early to mid 70's;

For me the Altered class was too unstable and the Funny Cars were no longer "cars" .... they were dragsters ('rail jobs') with make-believe plastic bodies over them. I did, I do, and I always will love Gassers. Among the cars I owned and built I created a street Gasser. This was my creation - a 1964 Ford Falcon that I stuffed a Ford cross-bolt 427 engine, 4-speed, and an Econoline I-bean solid axel. It was nasty!

 

[jackflash]

For me the Altered class was too unstable and the Funny Cars were no longer "cars" .... they were dragsters ('rail jobs') with make-believe plastic bodies over them. I did, I do, and I always will love Gassers. Among the cars I owned and built I created a street Gasser. This was my creation - a 1964 Ford Falcon that I stuffed a Ford cross-bolt 427 engine, 4-speed, and an Econoline I-bean solid axel. It was nasty!
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History repeats itself! My first rig was a 1961 Ford Starliner. I had a ECONOLINE I-beam(complete with drum brakes) axle installed by a local guy that was pretty sharp @ custom fabrications. I had purchased SHORT utility type leaf springs from POHL SPRINGS(still in business!);

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The Starliner had been owned by Ivan Potter(406/Holley Tri-power/T-85 3 speed) & came with posi 4:11 gears(stock 9" ring & pinion) but when I purchased it the 406 FE engine had been removed & replaced with a 390 cu.in. FE engine but still was outfitted with the Holley Tri-power induction system. I zeroed that EXPANSION TANK on your 427 FE bolted to the intake manifold like the image took me back in time for sure! Those FE engines had excellently positioned Intake & exhaust ports(equal length) & in conjunction with that 13 DEGREE valve guide angle the valves when fully opened were as close to CENTER of the piston deck as one can get with a parallel 2 valve cylinder head. Compared to the 23 degree SBC gen.1 engines when their intake valves are @ max lift & CLOSE to the cylinder wall(shrouding!) Those 427 FE engines also came with 2.25 intake valve diameter which really helped on the top end flow for sure!!!

The FE combustion chambers were dated in shape for sure but I had seen a pair of Edelbrock aluminum cylinder heads for the 427 FE engine(medium riser heads) & they sported the modern "Heart Shaped combustion chambers. That suck/bang & blow breathing capability of the FE medium riser cylinder heads was/were really efficient for street driven hipo rigs easily pulling 7400 RPM in the blink of an eye with the right gearing/tire diameter!!!



Ivan Potter was a full generation ahead of my generation. He was competitive for sure in the north west anyways, but he appears to have been overshadowed by his better known 1/4 mile wife;

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Below; Joe Riley's 60/61(? can't remember) 289 Falcon highboy. He purchased it from an Italiano guy named Bosio down south of me in Spokane Wa. around 1973;



We lost Joe recently but he will be well remembered by our Centurion members.

Somebody in Spokane must have remembered Joe's highboy Falcon;



Below; Somebody else(?) breathed new life into Joe's Falcon??? The ladder bars are extended further forwards than I remember on Joe's Falcon, meaning a more modern third member most likely installed. It's also minus the tear drop hood scoop to make for adequate clearance for the tunnel ram induction system;



In 69/73 all the 1/4 mile action was @ the Deer Park airport(north of Spokane). In 71 the The Spokane Raceway Park project was under construction out in the west plains area of west Spokane. It originally opened in 74 under the AHRA banner & is currently owned/operated by the Kalispel Indian Tribe

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Down At Woodburn Oregon the quarter mile strip was only around 150' elevation(heavy air pressure) so it was among the fastest drag strips in the entire world. The mistake with the currently named Qlispe Raceway Park is it's elevation is too high(2350') to be a competitive track regarding setting national records.

Did not mean to talk your head off but as I said before horsepower/torque & the 1/4 mile is my 2nd biggest addiction, like night racing is the hot ticket for me!!!

"Old 1/4 milers NEVER die, they just fade away."

 

[Robert W]

No they're not.

Are they wide to cause the dragster to burn more rubber? Why don't top fuel dragsters normally smoke the tires on the top-rated dragsters? Back when I raced on tracks, the top fuelers smoked a long ways down the track.

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[jackflash]

Are they wide to cause the dragster to burn more rubber? Why don't top fuel dragsters normally smoke the tires on the top-rated dragsters? Back when I raced on tracks, the top fuelers smoked a long ways down the track.

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The compound of the rubber has become more effective gaining a grip on the track surface.

 

[Robert W]

The compound of the rubber has become more effective gaining a grip on the track surface.

If you raced, it was long after I raced. I am aware the rubber has improved. When I raced at Fremont, at Half Moon Bay, at San Jose, at Kingdon, at Vacaville and other tracks, it was common for top fuel dragsters to smoke the rear tires at times halfway down the track. The rear tires were a lot narrower and not as high. 180 in the quarter mile was very fast. Today they only smoke a bit on the burn out and on the run unless a car has problem, not at all. Wider and taller and improve rubber are why they now run fast along with the 16,000 hp engines.

 

[The Duke]

I did quite a lot of drag racing back in the 60s and early 70s. Mostly on the street but at the strip on week-ends too. I haven’t done any of that since I left the states so maybe you guys can tell me … what is this shit with burn-outs in town? What’s the joy of melting your tires down to the rims and people shouting “Yipee!”? I don’t get it and it literally stinks.

 

[jackflash]

If you raced, it was long before I raced. I am aware the rubber has improved. When I raced at Fremont, at Half Moon Bay, at San Jose, at Kingdon, at Vacaville and other tracks, it was common for top fuel dragsters to smoke the rear tires at times halfway down the track. The rear tires were a lot narrower and not as high. 180 in the quarter mile was very fast. Today they only smoke a bit on the burn out and on the run unless a car has problem, not at all. Wider and taller and improve rubber are why they now run fast along with the 16,000 hp engines.

Yes, those wrinkle wall slicks are pretty wide for the TF rigs. I can remember when 1500 hp was considered a LOT of hp for Top Fuel.

 

[The Duke]

My roomie and I did 13's w/ 327 ci 202 heads, cammed, 650 holley quadrajet in a '64 Chevy ......~S~

Stage 1 cams? That's not ..mmm..gettin' jiggy with it setup.
I recall most dudes getting 8s and 9s.
I'm guessing no 3-angle valve jobs were done.