Burn! Alvin Bragg Schools Jim Jordan on Crime Stats! Let's talk about crime in Ohio cities compared to NYC, Jimmy

[bripat9643]

When did that happen on this planet, dipshit?

Here ya go, you fucking dumbass.

Court Denies Bragg’s Request for Temporary Restraining Order in Lawsuit Against Jim Jordan

 

[excalibur]

It still stands? The judge dismissed it, moron. You don't know what that means, do you?

The judge refused a TRO which is a big fail for Bragg, but not dismissed.

 

[Clipper]

Here ya go, you fucking dumbass.

Court Denies Bragg’s Request for Temporary Restraining Order in Lawsuit Against Jim Jordan

The actual lawsuit is still on the docket, halfwit.

 

[frigidweirdo]

There's far more to a cities' 'crime rate' than murders.

Yes there is, however... It still doesn't look good for Ohio.

List of United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

New York state has two cities, Buffalo and NYC.

3.39 murders per 100,000 for NYC and 15.61 for Buffalo.

Ohio has four cities.

23.4 for Cincinnati
27.77 for Cleveland
16.28 for Columbis
12.63 for Toledo

Clearly Ohio is higher.

Rape
NYC 55.43 per 100,000
Buffalo 27.56

Cincinnati 97.62 per 100,000
Cleveland 128.97
Columbus 105.37
Toledo figure isn't given.

Clearly Ohio is higher.

Essentially in most of the statistics, NYC is way down, Buffalo is like a lower level (still too high) Ohio city.

NYC is at 27.56 for robbery, Cleveland is at 699.88
NYC is at 345.52 for aggrevated assault, Cleveland is at 700.14

 

[bripat9643]

The actual lawsuit is still on the docket, halfwit.

It doesn't matter. The only part that bragg cared about was overruled.

 

[Clipper]

It doesn't matter. The only part that bragg cared about was overruled.

Has he dropped the lawsuit?

 

[Rumpole]

That's what happens when you're wrong all the time. You refuse to take anybody's word for anything even when evidence is clearly in front of you.

You're all talk and no substance.

You guys haven't presented one stitch of evidence of anything criminal against Joe Biden.

So put up or shut up.

We have tons of evidence against Trump.

 

[Rumpole]

This is a free country where everybody has a chance. If you don't want to exercise that, it's your own fault and nobody else.

Our founders didn't create a federal government to provide all needs; in fact just the opposite. If you want a government that provides all needs, then move to Cuba or North Korea.

Strawman.

"I cannot undertake to lay my fingers on that article of the Constitution that grants Congress the right, of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison, annals of Congress, 1794

There is a reason people are trying to sneak into this country from over 110 different countries instead of these socialist shitholes.

Of course he said that, he was a rich, white, slave owner and we should just swallow everything he says.

Yeah, right.

Sorry, nations evolve, needs change.

It's not 1787 anymore, so get with the program.

Cheers,
Rumpole

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Strawman.


Of course he said that, he was a rich, white, slave owner and we should just swallow everything he says.

Yeah, right.

Sorry, nations evolve, needs change.

It's not 1787 anymore, so get with the program.

Cheers,
Rumpole

Yeah, just some rich white guy that happened to be a main founder of this great country.

As an author of the Constitution what he pointed out was that our federal government is not a charity and never designed to be. He (and the others) didn't want a dependent class of citizens because that's how we lose freedoms. This brilliant slave owner knew that by not abiding to the Constitution when it comes to spending, we would end up with problems like we have today where people opt to live off the taxpayers instead of working and being a productive member of this country. Or as Mike Rowe pointed out, we have over 7 million American men of working age not working. It's devastating for our society.

But what would have happened had we listened to the opinion of this rich white slave owner? Hint: we wouldn't be 32 trillion in debt and growing today.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You're all talk and no substance.

You guys haven't presented one stitch of evidence of anything criminal against Joe Biden.

So put up or shut up.

We have tons of evidence against Trump.

You don't have shit on Trump. That's why your commie buddies have to make up crimes to try and get him.

Don't be so anxious. The new Congress is looking into all of the Biden crime family dealings. It may take several months and perhaps well over a year to gather all the evidence to make the case.

 

[bripat9643]

You're all talk and no substance.

You guys haven't presented one stitch of evidence of anything criminal against Joe Biden.

So put up or shut up.

We have tons of evidence against Trump.

Taking bribes from foreign governments is a crime.

 

[BackAgain]

In a heated debate between Alvin Bragg, a district attorney from New York City, and Jim Jordan, a Republican representative from Ohio, the former took the latter to task for his criticism of NYC's crime rates. In a perfect retort, Bragg cited the crime statistics of Ohio cities which far outstrip New York City's - a point that clearly seemed to catch Jordan off guard. It was truly a battle of wits with Bragg as the undeniable victor.

Columbus, which has a population of approximately 907,000 people, closed out 2022 with 140 murders, according to The Columbus Dispatch, or 15.4 murders per 100,000 citizens. New York City, which has a population of roughly 8.4 million, closed out 2022 with 433 murders, the Wall Street Journal reported, for a murder rate of 5.2 murders per 100,000 citizens.

Alvin Bragg's staff urges Jim Jordan to stay at home in Ohio if he wants a look at high murder rates rather than trekking to NYC

A Bragg aide called Jim Jordan's visit to Manhattan a stunt, saying New York City's murder rate was three times lower than in Columbus, Ohio.

www.businessinsider.com

Might want to double check the math.

 

[JoeB131]

But what would have happened had we listened to the opinion of this rich white slave owner? Hint: we wouldn't be 32 trillion in debt and growing today.

Always hilarious to watch Welfare Ray (who is living off a fake disability claim) whine about the debt.

Here's why we are 32 Trillion in debt.

Because thanks to Reagan, the rich aren't paying their fair share.

Before Reagan, the National Debt was less than one Trillion, despite space programs and wars and interstate highway programs.

As an author of the Constitution what he pointed out was that our federal government is not a charity and never designed to be. He (and the others) didn't want a dependent class of citizens because that's how we lose freedoms. This brilliant slave owner knew that by not abiding to the Constitution when it comes to spending, we would end up with problems like we have today where people opt to live off the taxpayers instead of working and being a productive member of this country. Or as Mike Rowe pointed out, we have over 7 million American men of working age not working. It's devastating for our society.

Uh, welfare Ray, you are one of those 7 million. Get off your ass.

I would be just fine with replacing welfare with workfare, to ensure that every able-bodied American has a renumerative job.

I don't think you guys would be too keen on it. The wealthy are trying to bring down inflation they caused by increasing unemployment.

 

[JoeB131]

Taking bribes from foreign governments is a crime.

Yeah, except no proof anyone did that.

In fact, this has ALREADY been investigated.

Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden (Published 2020)

The report delivered on Wednesday appeared to be little more than a rehashing of unproven allegations that echoed a Russian disinformation campaign.

www.nytimes.com

But an 87-page report summing up the findings, released jointly on Wednesday by the Senate Homeland Security and Finance Committees, contained no evidence that the elder Mr. Biden improperly manipulated American policy toward Ukraine or committed any other misdeed. In fact, investigators heard witness testimony that rebutted those charges.

 

[theHawk]

In a heated debate between Alvin Bragg, a district attorney from New York City, and Jim Jordan, a Republican representative from Ohio, the former took the latter to task for his criticism of NYC's crime rates. In a perfect retort, Bragg cited the crime statistics of Ohio cities which far outstrip New York City's - a point that clearly seemed to catch Jordan off guard. It was truly a battle of wits with Bragg as the undeniable victor.

Columbus, which has a population of approximately 907,000 people, closed out 2022 with 140 murders, according to The Columbus Dispatch, or 15.4 murders per 100,000 citizens. New York City, which has a population of roughly 8.4 million, closed out 2022 with 433 murders, the Wall Street Journal reported, for a murder rate of 5.2 murders per 100,000 citizens.

Alvin Bragg's staff urges Jim Jordan to stay at home in Ohio if he wants a look at high murder rates rather than trekking to NYC

A Bragg aide called Jim Jordan's visit to Manhattan a stunt, saying New York City's murder rate was three times lower than in Columbus, Ohio.

www.businessinsider.com

You realize Columbus Ohio has a higher black population percentage than NYC, right?

You aren‘t helping your cause.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You realize Columbus Ohio has a higher black population percentage than NYC, right?

You aren‘t helping your cause.

A couple of years ago I had a delivery there. I got out of my tractor and the shipper warned me not to leave my truck without locking it. I told him I'm from Cleveland so I'm used to dealing with people from the hood; nobody will bother it. Then he told me several other drivers thought the same thing and got robbed while watching the loading process. Hell, even the brothers here wouldn't mess with a truck idling in the dock with the driver 60 feet away.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

You realize Columbus Ohio has a higher black population percentage than NYC, right?

So what? Nobody denies that street crime is far higher and more difficult to deal with in poor black neighborhoods than in middle class white neighborhoods or white enclaves of the wealthy. Is that supposed to prove something?

Do you imagine that (somehow) electing more “white” Republican mayors in cities like Columbus would magically solve the deep-rooted social and economic problems there? Do you think the solution is to build ever more prisons to house ever more prisoners for ever longer periods? Well, I guess that could “in theory” work … it will at least provide more jobs for white prison guards in poor rural areas!

Maybe you truly believe that what Ohio cities really need is more white Republican Congressmen to provide effective state leadership (like on abortion to improve “morality”). Is the solution to have a white Republican Governor? Oh, they already have all that in Ohio!

One of those Republican Congressmen is going to NYC, and today will show how multi- ethnic New York City should handle its crime problems …

You aren‘t helping your cause.

What cause is that? Do you think most of us who denounce Trump, his “Big Lie” propaganda, his outrageous attempts to stop the peaceful transfer of power in 2020 … like or support violent street crime? That we are happy that so many black youth (especially young men) become criminals instead of going to college or taking up a trade?

I do want to add that it is always best to have at least two parties competing for power. When only one party monopolizes power in a city it usually leads to entrenched bureaucracy and corruption. In Red State areas it often leads to electing extremist reactionary populists.

 

[bripat9643]

Always hilarious to watch Welfare Ray (who is living off a fake disability claim) whine about the debt.

Here's why we are 32 Trillion in debt.

Because thanks to Reagan, the rich aren't paying their fair share.

Before Reagan, the National Debt was less than one Trillion, despite space programs and wars and interstate highway programs.



Uh, welfare Ray, you are one of those 7 million. Get off your ass.

I would be just fine with replacing welfare with workfare, to ensure that every able-bodied American has a renumerative job.

I don't think you guys would be too keen on it. The wealthy are trying to bring down inflation they caused by increasing unemployment.

It isn't thanks to Reagan. It's all from Democrat overspending.

The theory that the government doesn't receive enough revenue doesn't pass the laugh test.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what? Nobody denies that street crime is far higher and more difficult to deal with in poor black neighborhoods than in middle class white neighborhoods or white enclaves of the wealthy. Is that supposed to prove something?

Do you imagine that (somehow) electing more “white” Republican mayors in cities like Columbus would magically solve the deep-rooted social and economic problems there? Do you think the solution is to build ever more prisons to house ever more prisoners for ever longer periods? Well, I guess that could “in theory” work … it will at least provide more jobs for white prison guards in poor rural areas!

Having a Republican in charge would be a huge improvement in crime. Look at what Rudy did in NYC as Mayor.

The one fact about crime that those on the left want to ignore is a strong enough deterrent is the best way to fight crime. Solve all of it? Of course not, but you'll have less of it.

When Democrats get in charge, the first thing they want to do to repay Soros by being soft on crime. All the Wallgreens in San Francisco closed up. Why? Because if you shoplift less than $1,000, it's a misdemeanor and not a felony. It's not even worth the time for police to come out. In NYC, Fat Albert had felonies dropped to misdemeanors, even violent crimes. In Chicago, Laurie Lighthead stopped police from giving foot chases unless they called their supervisor first and got permission which of course by then, the suspect is three blocks away.

All these new regulations were designed to do one thing, promote more crime. And mind you, these places have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. The criminals still have guns, but the victims don't.

Even in my city, the black Mayor recently stopped our police from high speed chases outside of city limits. Now when criminals come here and shoot up a house over a bad drug deal, all they have to do is make it to our border and that's where the police car stops the chase. She wants to make sure her brothers don't get hurt and criminal brothers get away.

Republicans have the exact opposite view and approach to crime. So yes, Republican leadership makes a huge difference.

 

[theHawk]

o you imagine that (somehow) electing more “white” Republican mayors in cities like Columbus would magically solve the deep-rooted social and economic problems there?

It wouldn’t be “magic” that makes the streets safer, just common sense things like locking violent thugs up for a long time instead of letting them go all the time. Or how about hiring more police instead of defunding the police.

Wow you people are stupid.