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[Ghost of a Rider]

The DoJ report was a whitewash, and can't be taken seriously.

What's your evidence of this?

Um, yeah, about that. The grand jury did hear from the racist woman with a history of mental problems who claimed she saw the shooting. This is your example of "Reliable witnesses".

No it's not. Who are you referring to?

Nope. Once he disengaged, stopped, and put his hands up, the shooting wasn't justified.

He didn't put his hands up and he advanced on Wilson after Wilson told him three times to stop.

What facts did I invent?

 

[JoeB131]

No it's not. Who are you referring to?

You know exactly who I am referring to, because I've cited it dozens of times.



As protests continue across the country over the police killing of Michael Brown, new questions are being raised about the grand jury that failed to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson for shooting Brown. Many questions center on a woman identified in the grand jury documents simply as “Witness 40.” She told the grand jury that Brown charged at Wilson “like a football player.” Earlier this week, the website TheSmokingGun.com identified Witness 40 as Sandra McElroy. The website described her as a “bipolar Missouri woman with a criminal past who has a history of making racist remarks and once insinuated herself into another high-profile St. Louis criminal case with claims that police eventually dismissed as a 'complete fabrication.'” It now appears McElroy may have lied about witnessing the shooting, which occurred 30 miles from her home. On Tuesday, Rev. Al Sharpton said the report about Witness 40 gave new hope to the Brown family. He told the New York Daily News it shows the grand jury was “not a fair process.”

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You know exactly who I am referring to, because I've cited it dozens of times.

Like I cited that the cigars were not in a bag dozens of times but you kept saying they were anyway?

As protests continue across the country over the police killing of Michael Brown, new questions are being raised about the grand jury that failed to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson for shooting Brown. Many questions center on a woman identified in the grand jury documents simply as “Witness 40.” She told the grand jury that Brown charged at Wilson “like a football player.” Earlier this week, the website TheSmokingGun.com identified Witness 40 as Sandra McElroy. The website described her as a “bipolar Missouri woman with a criminal past who has a history of making racist remarks and once insinuated herself into another high-profile St. Louis criminal case with claims that police eventually dismissed as a 'complete fabrication.'” It now appears McElroy may have lied about witnessing the shooting, which occurred 30 miles from her home. On Tuesday, Rev. Al Sharpton said the report about Witness 40 gave new hope to the Brown family. He told the New York Daily News it shows the grand jury was “not a fair process.”

After some checking I found that this person is actually Witness 140 in the DoJ report. Either the numbers are different for some official or clerical reason or the media got it wrong. I'm betting they got it wrong, which is no surprise.

Anyway, two things to say about this:

1.) Her testimony supported Wilson's account but it was determined that she lied, did not actually witness the incident, so it was dismissed and not used in the trial.

2.) Even more people lied in favor of Brown but it was determined that they lied, did not actually witness the incident, and so their testimonies were dismissed and not used in the trial.

So what's the problem?

And what lies did I invent?

 

[OODA_Loop]

That's all that really needs to be said. Arguments about whether or not the cigarrellos were in a bag and if WIlson saw them in his Super Vision (but didn't write it into his official report until days later) are moot.

He shot an unarmed, wounded, barefoot kid who had his hands up.

Brown had his hand on Wilson's gun when he was shot leaning in the car trying to disarm Wilson.

Additional blood from Brown was found past where he was shot again and lay dead supporting that he then charged and came back at Wilson.

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

 

[flack]

which is why she backed up AND turned her wheel away from her murderer you moron.

The officers by the driver door is not the one who shot her. The officer who got hit by the car was in front of the car. You can see him bounce off the fender.

 

[skye]

 

[JoeB131]

Like I cited that the cigars were not in a bag dozens of times but you kept saying they were anyway?

Whatever, I'm done with you.

Brown had his hand on Wilson's gun when he was shot leaning in the car trying to disarm Wilson.

Or Wilson tried to pull him into the car and the gun went off.

Additional blood from Brown was found past where he was shot again and lay dead supporting that he then charged and came back at Wilson.

Or he was walking back with his hands up when he realized he couldn't get away.

16 witnesses said he had his hands up.

One witness said he charged him but that witness was a mentally ill racist white woman.

 

[flack]

Liberals are brain dead morons.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Whatever, I'm done with you.

What? Before you tell me what lies I invented?

Or Wilson tried to pull him into the car and the gun went off.

The bruises and scrapes on Wilson's face disproves that stupid idea.

Or he was walking back with his hands up when he realized he couldn't get away.

His hands weren't up.

16 witnesses said he had his hands up.

Just as many said he didn't and that he charged at Wilson.

One witness said he charged him but that witness was a mentally ill racist white woman.

Other witnesses said Wilson stood over Brown and shot him in the back. So?

 

[JoeB131]

What? Before you tell me what lies I invented?

Sit down and shut up, I'm done with you

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Sit down and shut up, I'm done with you

Every time you get facts and reason thrown at you, you wanna quit.

 

[JoeB131]

Every time you get facts and reason thrown at you, you wanna quit.

Naw, you are just tedious and never come up with new material, dragging up subject I lost interest in years ago

Now, if you want to have a civil discussion on the topic at hand, I'd be happy to do that.

If you are going to keep up with this weird stalking, you'll find yourself on my ignore list.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Naw, you are just tedious and never come up with new material, dragging up subject I lost interest in years ago

Now, if you want to have a civil discussion on the topic at hand, I'd be happy to do that.

If you are going to keep up with this weird stalking, you'll find yourself on my ignore list.

run away run away.

 

[JoeB131]

run away run away.

Naw, there's a certain point where it stops being debate and starts being "stalking", and that's when you employ the ignore button.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Naw, there's a certain point where it stops being debate and starts being "stalking", and that's when you employ the ignore button.

ya your irrational rants would apply to that comment.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Naw, you are just tedious and never come up with new material,

Why would I need any material other than the truth?

dragging up subject I lost interest in years ago

You're still interested enough to lie about it.

Now, if you want to have a civil discussion on the topic at hand, I'd be happy to do that.

Are you capable of doing that without lying?

If you are going to keep up with this weird stalking, you'll find yourself on my ignore list.

You've had the truth on your ignore list since you got here.

You had the audacity to suggest that the store owner called Brown a n****r based on nothing but a rumor that you admitted no one knows is the truth or not. So, the truth not being known, you simply assumed he did anyway.

It is truly astounding to me that you keep repeating lies like this or that the cigars were in a bag so Wilson couldn't see them when it's been proven to you multiple times over the last eleven years that they were not. The next time it comes up, you'll repeat all these lies all over again as if they weren't disproven to you ten times already.

I've encountered lies and hypocrisy from other posters here over the years but your mendacity, duplicity and hypocrisy are off the scale. Seriously.

 

[JoeB131]

Why would I need any material other than the truth?

Sit down and shut up... no one is interesting in your stalking.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Sit down and shut up... no one is interesting in your stalking.

No one is interested in stalking but they are interested in the truth. Unlike you.

 

[JoeB131]

No one is interested in stalking but they are interested in the truth. Unlike you.

You are a black hole of emotional need, aren't you?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You are a black hole of emotional need, aren't you?

You're the one lying about this shit so what is your need? For example, where does the need come from that compels you to knowingly promulgate an unverified and malicious rumor as fact, namely, the one about Patel calling Brown a n****r?

You knew and admitted that it was an unverified rumor but you threw it out there anyway. Why?

This is something I just can't wrap my head around. Seriously. I've never encountered this level of brazen mendacity in anyone and this is no exaggeration. I am frankly fascinated by it because it makes no logical sense.