Breaking: Woman shot while trying to kill ICE agents in Minnesota

[krichton]

A fleeing vehicle is a deadly force. Post these alleged policies. I'll not take your word for it.

1-16.000 - Department of Justice Policy On Use Of Force

www.justice.gov

1. Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
2. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.

 

[Delldude]

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According to DOJ policy, a fleeing vehicle must threaten deadly force by some other means, other than by using the vehicle itself and the agent is unable to move out of the path. Neither of these conditions were meet. She didn't have a weapon and he could clearly get out of the way. Also, something else that should be noted is that it also goes against departmental policy to stand in front of a moving vehicle and claim deadly force was necessary afterwards by shooting into the car.

He wasn't standing in front of the vehicle until she turned towards him.
His bodycam video makes it quite apparent.

 

[XponentialChaos]

he made the correct decision because he didnt know what the outcome would be but knew a car could kill him,,

I have an few issues with this.

If he didn’t know what the outcome would be, then he should ******* move out of the way instead of standing in front of a car that is clearly trying to get out of there.

Additionally, he was standing maybe 1 foot to the side front of a vehicle that wasn’t moving. From that distance, I don’t think his life is in danger. Cars need room to pick up speed to kill someone.

His life wasn’t in danger. He was nudged. His response was excessive. It was unnecessary.

 

[Delldude]

1-16.000 - Department of Justice Policy On Use Of Force

www.justice.gov

1. Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
2. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.

You skipped this part:

Law enforcement and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Bullshit he wasn’t.

He’s going to live. His life wasn’t in danger.

 

[Delldude]

Additionally, he was standing maybe 1 foot to the side front of a vehicle that wasn’t moving.

Until she turned towards him and spun the tires.

 

[progressive hunter]

I have an few issues with this.

If he didn’t know what the outcome would be, then he should ******* move out of the way instead of standing in front of a car that is clearly trying to get out of there.

Additionally, he was standing maybe 1 foot to the side front of a vehicle that wasn’t moving. From that distance, I don’t think his life is in danger. Cars need room to pick up speed to kill someone.

His life wasn’t in danger. He was nudged. His response was excessive. It was unnecessary.

didnt have time to move out of the way,,

he had more than a reasonable belief his life was in danger and acted accordingly,,

 

[Delldude]

He’s going to live. His life wasn’t in danger.

She didn't have to go to the protest did she?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Until she turned towards him and spun the tires.

And look at what happened. He was nudged. Life not in danger.

 

[HikerGuy83]

He’s going to live. His life wasn’t in danger.

^^^ Says the guy who wasn't there ^^^

 

[XponentialChaos]

didnt have time to move out of the way,,

he had more than a reasonable belief his life was in danger and acted accordingly,,

He didn’t have time to move out of the way but he had time to pull out a gun and shoot her.

Come on, man. He’s not that fat.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Is this woman still dead?

Asking for a friend.

 

[Delldude]

And look at what happened. He was nudged. Life not in danger.

You think he actually had time to discect what was transpiring?

 

[XponentialChaos]

^^^ Says the guy who wasn't there ^^^

Don’t worry. He’ll be fine.

 

[progressive hunter]

He didn’t have time to move out of the way but he had time to pull out a gun and shoot her.

Come on, man. He’s not that fat.

correct,,

 

[Delldude]

Don’t worry. He’ll be fine.

Better her than me.

 

[XponentialChaos]

You think he actually had time to discect what was transpiring?

I think he was trigger-happy and made a poor decision.

 

[HikerGuy83]

It was unnecessary.

Since you claim to know this.

What would make it necessary?

 

[progressive hunter]

I think he was trigger-happy and made a poor decision.

well you are a ******* idiot,, so your lame opinion only makes sense to you,,

 

[HikerGuy83]

I think he was trigger-happy and made a poor decision.

I might agree.

One poor decision on her part followed by potentially one on his part.

If she doesn't make hers, his never happens.

Nobody put her in danger.

She put him in danger.

Just how much justifies him pulling a gun...you are going to tell us.