BREAKING: White Marine Vet To Be Charged In Death of Jordan Neely

[Faun]

Again, stand your ground is a deadly force concept, not here where deadly force was not intended.

Considering the cops aren't doing their jobs anymore, people have to do it for them.

Despite his intent not being to kill Neely, he was using deadly force. He had a duty to retreat when the opportunity arose.

Who says cops aren't doing their job? Police are not everywhere. That's not them not doing their job.

 

[martybegan]

Despite his intent not being to kill Neely, he was using deadly force. He had a duty to retreat when the opportunity arose.

Who says cops aren't doing their job? Police are not everywhere. That's not them not doing their job.

Where to?

You retreat onto the platform and the nut follows you. you release your grip the nut attacks you.

 

[Vastator]

He's White, his fate was sealed. He should be given a medal .

There were others including a black guy who helped restrain his arms. Why haven't they been charged?

One moment, please...

It's because of shit like this, that I'm very selective about whom I will, or will not render aid of any kind to. Including the first aid, and first responder variety.

 

[jbrownson0831]

What can I say? Was he right to subdue the jerk and keep him from harming anyone? Yes. Was he right to hold the choke long past when he lost consciousness, stopped struggling and died? No.

Had it not been for 15 worthless idiots standing around videotaping it on their cellphones instead of helping out, Neely might not have died and another good soldier wouldn't be facing trial for trying to help others.

Im sure the young man did the best he could to keep the thug subdued and protect the people while looking out for the thugs health.
But lard ass Bragg loves to prosecute innocence.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Wrong.

Lawlessness is lawlessness. I care far less about race than you do.

Situation created by the nutjob, and the people who let him continue to be a nutjob.

Sure you do, funny how you never comment when the criminal is white, but you have plenty to say when they are black.

 

[Faun]

You can't hold him to law enforcement standards because he isn't a law enforcement officer.

The general "defund the police" mentality is what gets you this situation.

This had nothing to defend your imaginary defend thd police mentality. And no one is holding him to law enforcement standards.

It's illegal to kill someone, even by accident. There are exceptions, such as self-defense. But even self-defense has limitations.

NY § 35.15

2. A person may not use deadly physical force upon another person under circumstances specified in subdivision one unless:

(a) The actor reasonably believes that such other person is using or about to use deadly physical force. Even in such case, however, the actor may not use deadly physical force if he or she knows that with complete personal safety, to oneself and others he or she may avoid the necessity of so doing by retreating; except that the actor is under no duty to retreat if he or she is:

(i) in his or her dwelling and not the initial aggressor; or

(ii) a police officer or peace officer or a person assisting a police officer or a peace officer at the latter's direction, acting pursuant to section 35.30; or

(b) He or she reasonably believes that such other person is committing or attempting to commit a kidnapping, forcible rape, forcible criminal sexual act or robbery; or

(c) He or she reasonably believes that such other person is committing or attempting to commit a burglary, and the circumstances are such that the use of deadly physical force is authorized by subdivision three of section 35.20.​

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The law doesn't support your ignorance.

The law does but we aren't talking about law were talking about the banana republic of new York

 

[Faun]

Where to?

You retreat onto the platform and the nut follows you. you release your grip the nut attacks you.

A duty to retreat does not include being followed. And Neely's body had gone limp, how could he have followed Penny, no less attacked him; which by the way, Neely never did.

 

[Blaster]

Neely is just another dead thug.

 

[Faun]

The law does but we aren't talking about law were talking about the banana republic of new York

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This had nothing to defend your imaginary defend thd police mentality. And no one is holding him to law enforcement standards.

It's illegal to kill someone, even by accident. There are exceptions, such as self-defense. But even self-defense has limitations.

NY § 35.15​

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2. A person may not use deadly physical force upon another person under circumstances specified in subdivision one unless:​

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(a) The actor reasonably believes that such other person is using or about to use deadly physical force. Even in such case, however, the actor may not use deadly physical force if he or she knows that with complete personal safety, to oneself and others he or she may avoid the necessity of so doing by retreating; except that the actor is under no duty to retreat if he or she is:​

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(i) in his or her dwelling and not the initial aggressor; or​

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(ii) a police officer or peace officer or a person assisting a police officer or a peace officer at the latter's direction, acting pursuant to section 35.30; or​

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(b) He or she reasonably believes that such other person is committing or attempting to commit a kidnapping, forcible rape, forcible criminal sexual act or robbery; or​

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(c) He or she reasonably believes that such other person is committing or attempting to commit a burglary, and the circumstances are such that the use of deadly physical force is authorized by subdivision three of section 35.20.​

So you can read the mind of a person high on drugs who was attacking other people.

 

[martybegan]

Sure you do, funny how you never comment when the criminal is white, but you have plenty to say when they are black.

No need to comment when the criminal isn't being defended for what they did.

All those white incel mass shooters should be executed, but the one in Buffalo did it in a State without an effective death penalty.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That's right screw ball the banana republic of new York

 

[martybegan]

This had nothing to defend your imaginary defend thd police mentality. And no one is holding him to law enforcement standards.

It's illegal to kill someone, even by accident. There are exceptions, such as self-defense. But even self-defense has limitations.

NY § 35.15​

​

2. A person may not use deadly physical force upon another person under circumstances specified in subdivision one unless:​

​

(a) The actor reasonably believes that such other person is using or about to use deadly physical force. Even in such case, however, the actor may not use deadly physical force if he or she knows that with complete personal safety, to oneself and others he or she may avoid the necessity of so doing by retreating; except that the actor is under no duty to retreat if he or she is:​

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(i) in his or her dwelling and not the initial aggressor; or​

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(ii) a police officer or peace officer or a person assisting a police officer or a peace officer at the latter's direction, acting pursuant to section 35.30; or​

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(b) He or she reasonably believes that such other person is committing or attempting to commit a kidnapping, forcible rape, forcible criminal sexual act or robbery; or​

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(c) He or she reasonably believes that such other person is committing or attempting to commit a burglary, and the circumstances are such that the use of deadly physical force is authorized by subdivision three of section 35.20.​

That all implies the State will enforce the laws in question, which in Manhattan, they are not.

The hold he used wasn't meant to be deadly anyway, so this is all moot.

 

[martybegan]

A duty to retreat does not include being followed. And Neely's body had gone limp, how could he have followed Penny, no less attacked him; which by the way, Neely never did.

Again, you have proof he went limp WHILE he was being restrained?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How was that self defense?

Who was the attacker?

 

[BoostedHayabusa]

Bullshit, that man hadn't assaulted anyone that day.

How are they going soft when black folks are sent to prison, while white are put on probation.

I know all about that. My mom didn't get probation or nothing. Straight to prison.
She lost her life in prison as well. I miss you mom

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Attacks on woman? Trump supporter?

When was trump mentioned in this thread?

 

[BoostedHayabusa]

When was trump mentioned in this thread?

When I mentioned him, of course. I was wondering if he was a Trump supporter. Trump like to attack woman (verbally as far as I know of).

Lock him up!

 

[Faun]

So you can read the mind of a person high on drugs who was attacking other people.

What does that have to do with the law I posted?