BREAKING : Ryanair sent a Belarusian journalist Raman Pratasevich to certain death

Russia/China are simply competitors that threaten to cut into US economic fortunes. US aggression has been responsible for roughly 40 wars since the end of WW2.
No, my friend
The issue is not economic fortunes but abuses of human rights in attempting to assassinate or imprison those who speak out against you

A military solution is not always the answer.....an economic solution often is
Lukashenko, as well as Putin, Baiden, Obama or Poroshenko abused human rights. Any government do it.
It is bad, but it is reality.
Sorry, not buying your “Obama and Biden are as bad as Putin, Lukashenko and Poroshenko”

Makes you look like a fool
I’m a bit worried about this Silver Clown.
Nuclear war is winnable and 100-200 million dead Americans is acceptable?
Lord Jesus this forum attracts a lotta crazies. :cuckoo:
Do want to say, that it is better to live like an Uighur in a Chinese reeducation camp, than die like an American with the weapon in your hands? Pax Americana is better than Pax Sinica, victory is better than defeat, even if the price of the victory is terrible, price of defeat is much worse. From another point of view, destruction of "Biden's America" may be good by itself.

Ok. Anyway, smart combination of preemptive strike, postattack blackmail, ABD and civil defense may decrease loses up to zero (or first millions).
 
Roman´s friend Safia Sapeha was arrested as well Safia Sapeha was arrested (kidnapped) as well
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Yea, I’m worried about this young lady too :(
She is a Russian citizen, don't worry.
 
Russia/China are simply competitors that threaten to cut into US economic fortunes. US aggression has been responsible for roughly 40 wars since the end of WW2.
No, my friend
The issue is not economic fortunes but abuses of human rights in attempting to assassinate or imprison those who speak out against you

A military solution is not always the answer.....an economic solution often is
Lukashenko, as well as Putin, Baiden, Obama or Poroshenko abused human rights. Any government do it.
It is bad, but it is reality.
Sorry, not buying your “Obama and Biden are as bad as Putin, Lukashenko and Poroshenko”

Makes you look like a fool
I’m a bit worried about this Silver Clown.
Nuclear war is winnable and 100-200 million dead Americans is acceptable?
Lord Jesus this forum attracts a lotta crazies. :cuckoo:
Aren't you worried about the Chief of Stratcom, Adm. Charles Richard?

Nuclear war is "a very real possibility " exactly because it is survivable and winnable.
 

BREAKING : Ryanair sent a Belarusian journalist Raman Pratasevich to certain death.

Looks like pro - Moscow strap Lukasenka (having Moscow behiand ) moves up in this crimes against civil society

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A Belarusian journalist who is wanted by the government of Alyaksandr Lukashenka was arrested after the plane he was traveling on made an unscheduled landing in Minsk on May 23 after what appears to have been a false bomb threat.


Raman Pratasevich was taken away by police shortly after the Ryanair flight, which was on a scheduled route from Athens to Vilnius, landed in the Belarusian capital.

It wasn't Ryanair. They have to obey the laws of the countries they're flying through.

It was the Belorussians who did this.
1) Belarusians
2) Flight tracker sites indicated the plane was about 10 kilometers (six miles) from the Lithuanian border when it was diverted. and 150 kilometers to Miensk 2
1) BELORUSSIAN | Definition of BELORUSSIAN by Oxford Dictionary on Lexico.com also meaning of BELORUSSIAN

2) So what are you suggesting? That it was flying over Belarus at the time?
"So what are you suggesting?"
oil, gas , bank Iranian style sanction on Moscow, Lukasenka is pro- Moscow strap without Moscow´s support L.´ll not survive a day

Well, it might work. But then the EU will be without gas.
Do you remember, how exactly this "strategy" (a treat of massive oil&gas sanctions) worked with the Japans in 1941?
 
Obama landed a Bolivian jet in Europe, and tried to abduct Assange. It was not a problem in 2013, and it is not a problem in 2021
That was not as you are trying to imply.
Oh, yes, sorry. It was not Assange, it was Snowden, who was a reason to ground the Bolivian jet.


According to Bolivia, the flight was rerouted to Austria when France, Spain, Portugal and Italy[3] reportedly denied access to their airspace, allegedly due to suspicions that Snowden was on board.[4]

Austria's deputy chancellor, Michael Spindelegger, said that the plane was searched, although the Bolivian Defense Minister denied a search took place, saying Morales had denied entry to his plane.[5][6] The refusals for entry into French, Spanish, and Italian airspace ostensibly for "technical reasons", strongly denounced by Bolivia, Ecuador, and other South American nations, were attributed to rumors disseminated allegedly by the US that Snowden was on board.[7][8] Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs, José García-Margallo, publicly stated that they were told he was on board but did not specify as to who had informed them.[4]

The President of Austria, Heinz Fischer, went to greet President Morales in his plane and shared breakfast with him.[9]

The plane took off again after Austrian officials confirmed that Edward Snowden was not on board.[10]

France apologized for the incident immediately.[11] The Spanish ambassador to Bolivia apologized two weeks later, citing inappropriate procedures.[12] The Italians and Portuguese sent official explanations to the Bolivian Government.[13]

On 3 July, Jen Psaki, spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State, acknowledged that the U.S. had been "in contact with a range of countries across the world who had any chance of having Mr. Snowden land or even transit through their countries".[14][15]
Read thoroughly what you copy and past. The pilots requested landing in Austria after a number of European countries denied passage for the plane.
Yes. They forced it to ground, and only after examination of the plane - allowed to continue its flight. No difference.
Once again, the pilots themselves requested landing in Austria. Except of that, comparing Snowden with Protasevich (and the reasons why they are prosecuted) is ridiculous.
 
Obama landed a Bolivian jet in Europe, and tried to abduct Assange. It was not a problem in 2013, and it is not a problem in 2021
That was not as you are trying to imply.
Oh, yes, sorry. It was not Assange, it was Snowden, who was a reason to ground the Bolivian jet.


According to Bolivia, the flight was rerouted to Austria when France, Spain, Portugal and Italy[3] reportedly denied access to their airspace, allegedly due to suspicions that Snowden was on board.[4]

Austria's deputy chancellor, Michael Spindelegger, said that the plane was searched, although the Bolivian Defense Minister denied a search took place, saying Morales had denied entry to his plane.[5][6] The refusals for entry into French, Spanish, and Italian airspace ostensibly for "technical reasons", strongly denounced by Bolivia, Ecuador, and other South American nations, were attributed to rumors disseminated allegedly by the US that Snowden was on board.[7][8] Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs, José García-Margallo, publicly stated that they were told he was on board but did not specify as to who had informed them.[4]

The President of Austria, Heinz Fischer, went to greet President Morales in his plane and shared breakfast with him.[9]

The plane took off again after Austrian officials confirmed that Edward Snowden was not on board.[10]

France apologized for the incident immediately.[11] The Spanish ambassador to Bolivia apologized two weeks later, citing inappropriate procedures.[12] The Italians and Portuguese sent official explanations to the Bolivian Government.[13]

On 3 July, Jen Psaki, spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State, acknowledged that the U.S. had been "in contact with a range of countries across the world who had any chance of having Mr. Snowden land or even transit through their countries".[14][15]
Read thoroughly what you copy and past. The pilots requested landing in Austria after a number of European countries denied passage for the plane.
Yes. They forced it to ground, and only after examination of the plane - allowed to continue its flight. No difference.
Once again, the pilots themselves requested landing in Austria. Except of that, comparing Snowden with Protasevich (and the reasons why they are prosecuted) is ridiculous.
There is an article 1 of Chicago convention.
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The States can ground any plane or even all of them simultaneously (as it was in the USA in 9.11) if it required by their interests.
The USA grounded jets, the UK grounded jets, Ukraine grounded jets, Turkey grounded jets. It is normal, and it is allowed.

And comparing Snowden and Protasevich is absolutely correct. Both of them are traitors or both of them are "freedom fighters".
 
Obama landed a Bolivian jet in Europe, and tried to abduct Assange. It was not a problem in 2013, and it is not a problem in 2021
That was not as you are trying to imply.
Oh, yes, sorry. It was not Assange, it was Snowden, who was a reason to ground the Bolivian jet.


According to Bolivia, the flight was rerouted to Austria when France, Spain, Portugal and Italy[3] reportedly denied access to their airspace, allegedly due to suspicions that Snowden was on board.[4]

Austria's deputy chancellor, Michael Spindelegger, said that the plane was searched, although the Bolivian Defense Minister denied a search took place, saying Morales had denied entry to his plane.[5][6] The refusals for entry into French, Spanish, and Italian airspace ostensibly for "technical reasons", strongly denounced by Bolivia, Ecuador, and other South American nations, were attributed to rumors disseminated allegedly by the US that Snowden was on board.[7][8] Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs, José García-Margallo, publicly stated that they were told he was on board but did not specify as to who had informed them.[4]

The President of Austria, Heinz Fischer, went to greet President Morales in his plane and shared breakfast with him.[9]

The plane took off again after Austrian officials confirmed that Edward Snowden was not on board.[10]

France apologized for the incident immediately.[11] The Spanish ambassador to Bolivia apologized two weeks later, citing inappropriate procedures.[12] The Italians and Portuguese sent official explanations to the Bolivian Government.[13]

On 3 July, Jen Psaki, spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State, acknowledged that the U.S. had been "in contact with a range of countries across the world who had any chance of having Mr. Snowden land or even transit through their countries".[14][15]
Read thoroughly what you copy and past. The pilots requested landing in Austria after a number of European countries denied passage for the plane.
Yes. They forced it to ground, and only after examination of the plane - allowed to continue its flight. No difference.
Once again, the pilots themselves requested landing in Austria. Except of that, comparing Snowden with Protasevich (and the reasons why they are prosecuted) is ridiculous.
There is an article 1 of Chicago convention.
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The States can ground any plane or even all of them simultaneously (as it was in the USA in 9.11) if it required by their interests.
The USA grounded jets, the UK grounded jets, Ukraine grounded jets, Turkey grounded jets. It is normal, and it is allowed.

And comparing Snowden and Protasevich is absolutely correct. Both of them are traitors or both of them are "freedom fighters".
The main issue is not Belarus ordering the plane to land on its territory per se. It is about landing a plane on a false reason to arrest some guy who is considered a threat by the Belorussian dictator.

As I said above, comparing Snowden and Protasevich is ridiculous. I think every sane person with a grain of common sense would admit that. Try this stuff on some Russian forum from where you brought it here.
 
Obama landed a Bolivian jet in Europe, and tried to abduct Assange. It was not a problem in 2013, and it is not a problem in 2021
That was not as you are trying to imply.
Oh, yes, sorry. It was not Assange, it was Snowden, who was a reason to ground the Bolivian jet.


According to Bolivia, the flight was rerouted to Austria when France, Spain, Portugal and Italy[3] reportedly denied access to their airspace, allegedly due to suspicions that Snowden was on board.[4]

Austria's deputy chancellor, Michael Spindelegger, said that the plane was searched, although the Bolivian Defense Minister denied a search took place, saying Morales had denied entry to his plane.[5][6] The refusals for entry into French, Spanish, and Italian airspace ostensibly for "technical reasons", strongly denounced by Bolivia, Ecuador, and other South American nations, were attributed to rumors disseminated allegedly by the US that Snowden was on board.[7][8] Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs, José García-Margallo, publicly stated that they were told he was on board but did not specify as to who had informed them.[4]

The President of Austria, Heinz Fischer, went to greet President Morales in his plane and shared breakfast with him.[9]

The plane took off again after Austrian officials confirmed that Edward Snowden was not on board.[10]

France apologized for the incident immediately.[11] The Spanish ambassador to Bolivia apologized two weeks later, citing inappropriate procedures.[12] The Italians and Portuguese sent official explanations to the Bolivian Government.[13]

On 3 July, Jen Psaki, spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State, acknowledged that the U.S. had been "in contact with a range of countries across the world who had any chance of having Mr. Snowden land or even transit through their countries".[14][15]
Read thoroughly what you copy and past. The pilots requested landing in Austria after a number of European countries denied passage for the plane.
Yes. They forced it to ground, and only after examination of the plane - allowed to continue its flight. No difference.
Once again, the pilots themselves requested landing in Austria. Except of that, comparing Snowden with Protasevich (and the reasons why they are prosecuted) is ridiculous.
There is an article 1 of Chicago convention.
View attachment 493286
The States can ground any plane or even all of them simultaneously (as it was in the USA in 9.11) if it required by their interests.
The USA grounded jets, the UK grounded jets, Ukraine grounded jets, Turkey grounded jets. It is normal, and it is allowed.

And comparing Snowden and Protasevich is absolutely correct. Both of them are traitors or both of them are "freedom fighters".
The main issue is not Belarus ordering the plane to land on its territory per se. It is about landing a plane on a false reason to arrest some guy who is considered a threat by the Belorussian dictator.

As I said above, comparing Snowden and Protasevich is ridiculous. I think every sane person with a grain of common sense would admit that. Try this stuff on some Russian forum from where you brought it here.
You see, you think, that Obama, Poroshenko, Erdogan and Protasevich are "good" , and Snowden, Martirosyan, Lukashenko and Putin are "bad". And what allowed for "good guys" is not allowed for "bad guys". But there are no such terms in the international laws.
It was Belorussian air, and Belorussian laws. And according Belorussian laws KGB can lie when it is required to arrest a criminal.
 
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Obama landed a Bolivian jet in Europe, and tried to abduct Assange. It was not a problem in 2013, and it is not a problem in 2021
That was not as you are trying to imply.
Oh, yes, sorry. It was not Assange, it was Snowden, who was a reason to ground the Bolivian jet.


According to Bolivia, the flight was rerouted to Austria when France, Spain, Portugal and Italy[3] reportedly denied access to their airspace, allegedly due to suspicions that Snowden was on board.[4]

Austria's deputy chancellor, Michael Spindelegger, said that the plane was searched, although the Bolivian Defense Minister denied a search took place, saying Morales had denied entry to his plane.[5][6] The refusals for entry into French, Spanish, and Italian airspace ostensibly for "technical reasons", strongly denounced by Bolivia, Ecuador, and other South American nations, were attributed to rumors disseminated allegedly by the US that Snowden was on board.[7][8] Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs, José García-Margallo, publicly stated that they were told he was on board but did not specify as to who had informed them.[4]

The President of Austria, Heinz Fischer, went to greet President Morales in his plane and shared breakfast with him.[9]

The plane took off again after Austrian officials confirmed that Edward Snowden was not on board.[10]

France apologized for the incident immediately.[11] The Spanish ambassador to Bolivia apologized two weeks later, citing inappropriate procedures.[12] The Italians and Portuguese sent official explanations to the Bolivian Government.[13]

On 3 July, Jen Psaki, spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State, acknowledged that the U.S. had been "in contact with a range of countries across the world who had any chance of having Mr. Snowden land or even transit through their countries".[14][15]
Read thoroughly what you copy and past. The pilots requested landing in Austria after a number of European countries denied passage for the plane.
Yes. They forced it to ground, and only after examination of the plane - allowed to continue its flight. No difference.
Once again, the pilots themselves requested landing in Austria. Except of that, comparing Snowden with Protasevich (and the reasons why they are prosecuted) is ridiculous.
There is an article 1 of Chicago convention.
View attachment 493286
The States can ground any plane or even all of them simultaneously (as it was in the USA in 9.11) if it required by their interests.
The USA grounded jets, the UK grounded jets, Ukraine grounded jets, Turkey grounded jets. It is normal, and it is allowed.

And comparing Snowden and Protasevich is absolutely correct. Both of them are traitors or both of them are "freedom fighters".
The main issue is not Belarus ordering the plane to land on its territory per se. It is about landing a plane on a false reason to arrest some guy who is considered a threat by the Belorussian dictator.

As I said above, comparing Snowden and Protasevich is ridiculous. I think every sane person with a grain of common sense would admit that. Try this stuff on some Russian forum from where you brought it here.
You see, you think, that Obama, Poroshenko, Erdogan and Protasevich are "good" , and Snowden, Martirosyan, Lukashenko and Putin are "bad". And what allowed for "good guys" is not allowed for "bad guys". But there are no such terms in the international laws.
It was Belorussian air, and Belorussian laws. And according Belorussian laws KGB can lie when it is required to arrest a criminal.
No, I dont. And certainly, Erdogan and Poroshenko (both for different reasons) won't be 'good' in my scale and neither Snowden be 'bad'.

I dont like dictators and I support free speech. Lukashenko should have gone at least several years ago and dont make a pariah out of his state.
 

BREAKING : Ryanair sent a Belarusian journalist Raman Pratasevich to certain death.

Looks like pro - Moscow strap Lukasenka (having Moscow behiand ) moves up in this crimes against civil society

"
A Belarusian journalist who is wanted by the government of Alyaksandr Lukashenka was arrested after the plane he was traveling on made an unscheduled landing in Minsk on May 23 after what appears to have been a false bomb threat.


Raman Pratasevich was taken away by police shortly after the Ryanair flight, which was on a scheduled route from Athens to Vilnius, landed in the Belarusian capital.

It wasn't Ryanair. They have to obey the laws of the countries they're flying through.

It was the Belorussians who did this.
1) Belarusians
2) Flight tracker sites indicated the plane was about 10 kilometers (six miles) from the Lithuanian border when it was diverted. and 150 kilometers to Miensk 2
1) BELORUSSIAN | Definition of BELORUSSIAN by Oxford Dictionary on Lexico.com also meaning of BELORUSSIAN

2) So what are you suggesting? That it was flying over Belarus at the time?
"So what are you suggesting?"
oil, gas , bank Iranian style sanction on Moscow, Lukasenka is pro- Moscow strap without Moscow´s support L.´ll not survive a day

Well, it might work. But then the EU will be without gas.
Do you remember, how exactly this "strategy" (a treat of massive oil&gas sanctions) worked with the Japans in 1941?

Yeah, well, different times. Belarus can't go to war, they'd lose in minutes.

Russia could try, but they'd also find it difficult. They're not as rich as they pretend to be. They do a lot of things on the cheap.
 

BREAKING : Ryanair sent a Belarusian journalist Raman Pratasevich to certain death.

Looks like pro - Moscow strap Lukasenka (having Moscow behiand ) moves up in this crimes against civil society

"
A Belarusian journalist who is wanted by the government of Alyaksandr Lukashenka was arrested after the plane he was traveling on made an unscheduled landing in Minsk on May 23 after what appears to have been a false bomb threat.


Raman Pratasevich was taken away by police shortly after the Ryanair flight, which was on a scheduled route from Athens to Vilnius, landed in the Belarusian capital.

Did it ever enter you pygmatised brain that they threatened to shoot it down if he didn't.
How is Ryan air responsible for him?
Would d it have been irresponsible if Ryan air to kill all the others because of him?

Do you ever think?
 

BREAKING : Ryanair sent a Belarusian journalist Raman Pratasevich to certain death.

Looks like pro - Moscow strap Lukasenka (having Moscow behiand ) moves up in this crimes against civil society

"
A Belarusian journalist who is wanted by the government of Alyaksandr Lukashenka was arrested after the plane he was traveling on made an unscheduled landing in Minsk on May 23 after what appears to have been a false bomb threat.


Raman Pratasevich was taken away by police shortly after the Ryanair flight, which was on a scheduled route from Athens to Vilnius, landed in the Belarusian capital.

It wasn't Ryanair. They have to obey the laws of the countries they're flying through.

It was the Belorussians who did this.
1) Belarusians
2) Flight tracker sites indicated the plane was about 10 kilometers (six miles) from the Lithuanian border when it was diverted. and 150 kilometers to Miensk 2
1) BELORUSSIAN | Definition of BELORUSSIAN by Oxford Dictionary on Lexico.com also meaning of BELORUSSIAN

2) So what are you suggesting? That it was flying over Belarus at the time?
"So what are you suggesting?"
oil, gas , bank Iranian style sanction on Moscow, Lukasenka is pro- Moscow strap without Moscow´s support L.´ll not survive a day

Well, it might work. But then the EU will be without gas.
Do you remember, how exactly this "strategy" (a treat of massive oil&gas sanctions) worked with the Japans in 1941?

Yeah, well, different times. Belarus can't go to war, they'd lose in minutes.

Russia could try, but they'd also find it difficult. They're not as rich as they pretend to be. They do a lot of things on the cheap.
They are not rich, and they can risk with war, if they decide that "peace" is more dangerous.
 
And yes, when Lukashenko shot down two American citizens it was OK for our "allies".

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Calling a fake bomb threat is tantamount to air terrorism.

Exactly - skyjacking + kidnapping. And not any chance to arrest the criminal asshole Lukashenko and his criminal gang - not only because Russia honorlessly helps this brutal tyrant.
 
Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.
 
Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
 
They should release the young journalist. Immediately!

Not to forget: They arrrested also his Russian girlfriend. The journalist declared himselve "guilty" in the TV from the tyrant Lukashenko. His father said that's nonsnense beause he never had caused any riot. He said this was very clear an inscenation. His son speaks normally in another way - was lethargic. His cigarettes on the desk were not teh cigarettes he normally smoked. He thinks he had a broken nose and an immense amount of powder in the face, whic seem to hide wounds.

The criminals in Belarus have to give immediatelly back to Europe every of the passengers they have arrested. We bring our passengeers to their destiny and not into the torture chambers of a criminal government without legitimitation. This case of skyjacking is an unbelievable provocation for the complete free world.
 
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