BREAKING : Ryanair sent a Belarusian journalist Raman Pratasevich to certain death

[Litwin]

Belarus plane: What impact could tougher action against Belarus have?

What further sanctions are in place against Belarus and what impact might they have?

www.bbc.com

Belarus needs to be isolated

The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.

Belarus said no to this dictator , but the mongol Moscow supports him , he sits on the bayonets.

yo must have this book


https://www.jstor.org › stable


by LN LANGER · 2007 · Cited by 6 — was once part of the Horde's ulus (patrimony or domain) and makes the com ... curred at all, particularly when Moscow was no longer under Mongol control, ... Turkic terms, diplomatic protocol and ritual, at least until the sixteenth century ... ulusbey would have acted as a wazir, since he believes such bureaucratic exper.

Charles J. Halperin, Russian and Mongols. Slavs and the ...​

https://www.academia.edu › Charles_J._Halperin_Russian...


Tsarev ulus: Russia in the Golden Horde (Cahiers du monde russe et ... to get more familiar with the Moscow language and with the writings of Moscow scholars. ... Moscow was the tsarev ulus, the ulus of the khan, ... later Greek terminology, basically the Turkic bureaucratic vocabulary survived ...

Russia to lend Belarus $1.5bn as Lukashenko tells Putin 'a ...​

https://www.theguardian.com › world › sep › alexander...



14 Sep 2020 — The slogan for the protest on Sunday, with Lukashenko's meeting with Putin in mind, was was: “We won't let him sell the country.” Although the ...

Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military ...​

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27 Aug 2020 — Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military support ... Vladimir Putin has said the Kremlin is willing to provide military or other law ...

 

[zaangalewa]

Belarus plane: What impact could tougher action against Belarus have?

What further sanctions are in place against Belarus and what impact might they have?

www.bbc.com

Belarus needs to be isolated

The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

?

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.

What did you think? Lukashenko used the American style, which he had learned from Donlad Trump, isn't it? Torture is a theme in the USA. Or Donald Trump was educated from men like Lukashenko. The difference: Lukashenko really stole the elections in Belarus.

 

[zaangalewa]

27 Aug 2020 — Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military support ... Vladimir Putin has said the Kremlin is willing to provide military or other law ...

The joke in the background: Lukashenko always warned from the evil Russians - in similar stupid words as you are continuously doing - if not a strong man like him will lead the country. Now he is even ready to let the Russians conquer "his" country to save his damned wrotten ass. Big strong men - god help all mankind. Let little weak women govern.

 

[Litwin]

Roman´s friend Safia Sapeha was arrested as well Safia Sapeha was arrested (kidnapped) as well

Yea, I’m worried about this young lady too

She is a Russian citizen, don't worry.

L. doesn't care , many Muscovite died in Belarusians prisons , plus she is an ethnic Belarus who lives in EU&NATO

 

[Litwin]

Belarus plane: What impact could tougher action against Belarus have?

What further sanctions are in place against Belarus and what impact might they have?

www.bbc.com

Belarus needs to be isolated

No, Putin needs to be isolated, the oriental barbaric Moscow empire is the main root of all problems in the region

Russia to lend Belarus $1.5bn as Lukashenko tells Putin 'a ...​

https://www.theguardian.com › world › sep › alexander...



14 Sep 2020 — The slogan for the protest on Sunday, with Lukashenko's meeting with Putin in mind, was was: “We won't let him sell the country.” Although the ...

Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military ...​

https://www.theguardian.com › world › aug › belarus-p...


27 Aug 2020 — Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military support ... Vladimir Putin has said the Kremlin is willing to provide military or other law ...

Lukashenko 'grateful' for Russian aid as Belarus leader meets ...​

https://www.euronews.com › News › World


22 Feb 2021 — Russian President Vladimir Putin hosted his Belarusian counterpart Alexander Lukashenko for talks on Monday, amid media reports ...

 

[zaangalewa]

Roman´s friend Safia Sapeha was arrested as well Safia Sapeha was arrested (kidnapped) as well

Yea, I’m worried about this young lady too

She is a Russian citizen, don't worry.

One more reason to be worried.

 

[Litwin]

27 Aug 2020 — Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military support ... Vladimir Putin has said the Kremlin is willing to provide military or other law ...

The joke in the background: Lukashenko always warned from the evil Russians - in similar stupid words as you are continuously doing - if not a strong man like him will lead the country. Now he is even ready to let the Russians conquer "his" country to save his damned wrotten ass.

Moscow barbaric horde of the looters is the main root of all our problem

Putin's stealth takeover of Belarus gains momentum - Atlantic ...​

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org › blogs › ukrainealert


10 Mar 2021 — Prominent guests included a Russian lawmaker from Ukraine's occupied Crimean peninsula and an advisor to Moscow-backed separatists in ...

 

[zaangalewa]

27 Aug 2020 — Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military support ... Vladimir Putin has said the Kremlin is willing to provide military or other law ...

The joke in the background: Lukashenko always warned from the evil Russians - in similar stupid words as you are continuously doing - if not a strong man like him will lead the country. Now he is even ready to let the Russians conquer "his" country to save his damned wrotten ass.

Moscow barbaric horde of the looters is the main root of all our problem
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Putin's stealth takeover of Belarus gains momentum - Atlantic ...​

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org › blogs › ukrainealert


10 Mar 2021 — Prominent guests included a Russian lawmaker from Ukraine's occupied Crimean peninsula and an advisor to Moscow-backed separatists in ...

The Crimean pensinsula is not really a problem. I will not discuss with you again about, because you don't like to learn. Lukashenko is a real problem. Not only for Europe - also for Russia.

 

[Silver Cat]

Belarus plane: What impact could tougher action against Belarus have?

What further sanctions are in place against Belarus and what impact might they have?

www.bbc.com

Belarus needs to be isolated

The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

?

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.

What did you think? Lukashenko used the American style, which he had learned from Donlad Trump, isn't it? Torture is a theme in the USA. Or Donald Trump was educated from men like Lukashenko. The difference: Lukashenko really stole the elections in Belarus.

Actually, he learned it from Obama.

 

[zaangalewa]

Obama landed a Bolivian jet in Europe, and tried to abduct Assange. It was not a problem in 2013, and it is not a problem in 2021

That was not as you are trying to imply.

Oh, yes, sorry. It was not Assange, it was Snowden, who was a reason to ground the Bolivian jet.

Evo Morales grounding incident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

According to Bolivia, the flight was rerouted to Austria when France, Spain, Portugal and Italy[3] reportedly denied access to their airspace, allegedly due to suspicions that Snowden was on board.[4]

Austria's deputy chancellor, Michael Spindelegger, said that the plane was searched, although the Bolivian Defense Minister denied a search took place, saying Morales had denied entry to his plane.[5][6] The refusals for entry into French, Spanish, and Italian airspace ostensibly for "technical reasons", strongly denounced by Bolivia, Ecuador, and other South American nations, were attributed to rumors disseminated allegedly by the US that Snowden was on board.[7][8] Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs, José García-Margallo, publicly stated that they were told he was on board but did not specify as to who had informed them.[4]

The President of Austria, Heinz Fischer, went to greet President Morales in his plane and shared breakfast with him.[9]

The plane took off again after Austrian officials confirmed that Edward Snowden was not on board.[10]

France apologized for the incident immediately.[11] The Spanish ambassador to Bolivia apologized two weeks later, citing inappropriate procedures.[12] The Italians and Portuguese sent official explanations to the Bolivian Government.[13]

On 3 July, Jen Psaki, spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State, acknowledged that the U.S. had been "in contact with a range of countries across the world who had any chance of having Mr. Snowden land or even transit through their countries".[14][15]

Read thoroughly what you copy and past. The pilots requested landing in Austria after a number of European countries denied passage for the plane.

Yes. They forced it to ground, and only after examination of the plane - allowed to continue its flight. No difference.

Once again, the pilots themselves requested landing in Austria. Except of that, comparing Snowden with Protasevich (and the reasons why they are prosecuted) is ridiculous.

There is an article 1 of Chicago convention.
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The States can ground any plane or even all of them simultaneously (as it was in the USA in 9.11) if it required by their interests.
The USA grounded jets, the UK grounded jets, Ukraine grounded jets, Turkey grounded jets. It is normal, and it is allowed.

And comparing Snowden and Protasevich is absolutely correct. Both of them are traitors or both of them are "freedom fighters".

The main issue is not Belarus ordering the plane to land on its territory per se. It is about landing a plane on a false reason to arrest some guy who is considered a threat by the Belorussian dictator.

As I said above, comparing Snowden and Protasevich is ridiculous. I think every sane person with a grain of common sense would admit that. Try this stuff on some Russian forum from where you brought it here.

You see, you think, that Obama, Poroshenko, Erdogan and Protasevich are "good" , and Snowden, Martirosyan, Lukashenko and Putin are "bad". And what allowed for "good guys" is not allowed for "bad guys". But there are no such terms in the international laws.
It was Belorussian air, and Belorussian laws. And according Belorussian laws KGB can lie when it is required to arrest a criminal.

Lukashenko skyjacked an European aeroplane and kidnapped two passengers. If he likes to punish criminals he has to ask the EU to send this criminals to Belarus and/or he has to accuse this criminals in the European country where they live.

 

[Litwin]

27 Aug 2020 — Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military support ... Vladimir Putin has said the Kremlin is willing to provide military or other law ...

The joke in the background: Lukashenko always warned from the evil Russians - in similar stupid words as you are continuously doing - if not a strong man like him will lead the country. Now he is even ready to let the Russians conquer "his" country to save his damned wrotten ass.

Moscow barbaric horde of the looters is the main root of all our problem
View attachment 493321

Putin's stealth takeover of Belarus gains momentum - Atlantic ...​

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org › blogs › ukrainealert


10 Mar 2021 — Prominent guests included a Russian lawmaker from Ukraine's occupied Crimean peninsula and an advisor to Moscow-backed separatists in ...

The Crimean pensinsula is not really a problem. I will not discuss with you again about, because you don't like to learn. Lukashenko is a real problem. Not only for Europe - also for Russia.

". Lukashenko is a real problem. Not only for Europe - also for Russia."

Putin is the main problem for the entire world, moscow´s khan does the same in Myanmar, Venezuela , Syria , etc

How Putin Built an Empire of Tyrants and Failing States | Time​

https://time.com › World › russia



4 Apr 2019 — In Syria, Russia rescued the dictatorship of Bashar Assad with a ... have sought the Kremlin's support, often in exchange for access to oil fields ...

 

[zaangalewa]

Belarus plane: What impact could tougher action against Belarus have?

What further sanctions are in place against Belarus and what impact might they have?

www.bbc.com

Belarus needs to be isolated

The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

?

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.

What did you think? Lukashenko used the American style, which he had learned from Donlad Trump, isn't it? Torture is a theme in the USA. Or Donald Trump was educated from men like Lukashenko. The difference: Lukashenko really stole the elections in Belarus.

Actually, he learned it from Obama.

What a nonsense. The normal egocentrism of the people of the USA is by the way very annoying.

 

[zaangalewa]

27 Aug 2020 — Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military support ... Vladimir Putin has said the Kremlin is willing to provide military or other law ...

The joke in the background: Lukashenko always warned from the evil Russians - in similar stupid words as you are continuously doing - if not a strong man like him will lead the country. Now he is even ready to let the Russians conquer "his" country to save his damned wrotten ass.

Moscow barbaric horde of the looters is the main root of all our problem
View attachment 493321

Putin's stealth takeover of Belarus gains momentum - Atlantic ...​

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org › blogs › ukrainealert


10 Mar 2021 — Prominent guests included a Russian lawmaker from Ukraine's occupied Crimean peninsula and an advisor to Moscow-backed separatists in ...

The Crimean pensinsula is not really a problem. I will not discuss with you again about, because you don't like to learn. Lukashenko is a real problem. Not only for Europe - also for Russia.

". Lukashenko is a real problem. Not only for Europe - also for Russia."

Putin is the main problem for the entire world, moscow´s khan does the same in Myanmar, Venezuela , Syria , etc

How Putin Built an Empire of Tyrants and Failing States | Time​

https://time.com › World › russia



4 Apr 2019 — In Syria, Russia rescued the dictatorship of Bashar Assad with a ... have sought the Kremlin's support, often in exchange for access to oil fields ...

Let your propaganda horn sleep for a moment. I don't discuss with you about Russia. You are a fanatic enemy of Russia.

 

[Silver Cat]

27 Aug 2020 — Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military support ... Vladimir Putin has said the Kremlin is willing to provide military or other law ...

The joke in the background: Lukashenko always warned from the evil Russians - in similar stupid words as you are continuously doing - if not a strong man like him will lead the country. Now he is even ready to let the Russians conquer "his" country to save his damned wrotten ass.

Moscow barbaric horde of the looters is the main root of all our problem
View attachment 493321

Putin's stealth takeover of Belarus gains momentum - Atlantic ...​

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org › blogs › ukrainealert


10 Mar 2021 — Prominent guests included a Russian lawmaker from Ukraine's occupied Crimean peninsula and an advisor to Moscow-backed separatists in ...

The Crimean pensinsula is not really a problem. I will not discuss with you again about, because you don't like to learn. Lukashenko is a real problem. Not only for Europe - also for Russia.

". Lukashenko is a real problem. Not only for Europe - also for Russia."

Putin is the main problem for the entire world, moscow´s khan does the same in Myanmar, Venezuela , Syria , etc

How Putin Built an Empire of Tyrants and Failing States | Time​

https://time.com › World › russia



4 Apr 2019 — In Syria, Russia rescued the dictatorship of Bashar Assad with a ... have sought the Kremlin's support, often in exchange for access to oil fields ...

Sure, no. It is Britain, who calls Russian allies as "failed states" and "dictatorships".

 

[Silver Cat]

Belarus plane: What impact could tougher action against Belarus have?

What further sanctions are in place against Belarus and what impact might they have?

www.bbc.com

Belarus needs to be isolated

The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

?

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.

What did you think? Lukashenko used the American style, which he had learned from Donlad Trump, isn't it? Torture is a theme in the USA. Or Donald Trump was educated from men like Lukashenko. The difference: Lukashenko really stole the elections in Belarus.

Actually, he learned it from Obama.

What a nonsense. The normal egocentrism of the people of the USA is by the way very annoying.

Ok. He learned it from Austria, who grounded a Bolivian jet in the attempt to arrest Snowden.

 

[Silver Cat]

Obama landed a Bolivian jet in Europe, and tried to abduct Assange. It was not a problem in 2013, and it is not a problem in 2021

That was not as you are trying to imply.

Oh, yes, sorry. It was not Assange, it was Snowden, who was a reason to ground the Bolivian jet.

Evo Morales grounding incident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

According to Bolivia, the flight was rerouted to Austria when France, Spain, Portugal and Italy[3] reportedly denied access to their airspace, allegedly due to suspicions that Snowden was on board.[4]

Austria's deputy chancellor, Michael Spindelegger, said that the plane was searched, although the Bolivian Defense Minister denied a search took place, saying Morales had denied entry to his plane.[5][6] The refusals for entry into French, Spanish, and Italian airspace ostensibly for "technical reasons", strongly denounced by Bolivia, Ecuador, and other South American nations, were attributed to rumors disseminated allegedly by the US that Snowden was on board.[7][8] Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs, José García-Margallo, publicly stated that they were told he was on board but did not specify as to who had informed them.[4]

The President of Austria, Heinz Fischer, went to greet President Morales in his plane and shared breakfast with him.[9]

The plane took off again after Austrian officials confirmed that Edward Snowden was not on board.[10]

France apologized for the incident immediately.[11] The Spanish ambassador to Bolivia apologized two weeks later, citing inappropriate procedures.[12] The Italians and Portuguese sent official explanations to the Bolivian Government.[13]

On 3 July, Jen Psaki, spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State, acknowledged that the U.S. had been "in contact with a range of countries across the world who had any chance of having Mr. Snowden land or even transit through their countries".[14][15]

Read thoroughly what you copy and past. The pilots requested landing in Austria after a number of European countries denied passage for the plane.

Yes. They forced it to ground, and only after examination of the plane - allowed to continue its flight. No difference.

Once again, the pilots themselves requested landing in Austria. Except of that, comparing Snowden with Protasevich (and the reasons why they are prosecuted) is ridiculous.

There is an article 1 of Chicago convention.
View attachment 493286
The States can ground any plane or even all of them simultaneously (as it was in the USA in 9.11) if it required by their interests.
The USA grounded jets, the UK grounded jets, Ukraine grounded jets, Turkey grounded jets. It is normal, and it is allowed.

And comparing Snowden and Protasevich is absolutely correct. Both of them are traitors or both of them are "freedom fighters".

The main issue is not Belarus ordering the plane to land on its territory per se. It is about landing a plane on a false reason to arrest some guy who is considered a threat by the Belorussian dictator.

As I said above, comparing Snowden and Protasevich is ridiculous. I think every sane person with a grain of common sense would admit that. Try this stuff on some Russian forum from where you brought it here.

You see, you think, that Obama, Poroshenko, Erdogan and Protasevich are "good" , and Snowden, Martirosyan, Lukashenko and Putin are "bad". And what allowed for "good guys" is not allowed for "bad guys". But there are no such terms in the international laws.
It was Belorussian air, and Belorussian laws. And according Belorussian laws KGB can lie when it is required to arrest a criminal.

Lukashenko skyjacked an European aeroplane and kidnapped two passengers. If he likes to punish criminals he has to ask the EU to send this criminals to Belarus and/or he has to accuse this criminals in the European country where they live.

No. Any government can arrest criminals on their territory.
Do you want to say, that if Snowden was found on the Bolivian jet, your police didn't arrest him for the USA?
Do you want to say, that what is allowed to Austria, is not allowed to Belorussia?

 

[Litwin]

27 Aug 2020 — Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military support ... Vladimir Putin has said the Kremlin is willing to provide military or other law ...

The joke in the background: Lukashenko always warned from the evil Russians - in similar stupid words as you are continuously doing - if not a strong man like him will lead the country. Now he is even ready to let the Russians conquer "his" country to save his damned wrotten ass.

Moscow barbaric horde of the looters is the main root of all our problem
View attachment 493321

Putin's stealth takeover of Belarus gains momentum - Atlantic ...​

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org › blogs › ukrainealert


10 Mar 2021 — Prominent guests included a Russian lawmaker from Ukraine's occupied Crimean peninsula and an advisor to Moscow-backed separatists in ...

The Crimean pensinsula is not really a problem. I will not discuss with you again about, because you don't like to learn. Lukashenko is a real problem. Not only for Europe - also for Russia.

". Lukashenko is a real problem. Not only for Europe - also for Russia."

Putin is the main problem for the entire world, moscow´s khan does the same in Myanmar, Venezuela , Syria , etc

How Putin Built an Empire of Tyrants and Failing States | Time​

https://time.com › World › russia



4 Apr 2019 — In Syria, Russia rescued the dictatorship of Bashar Assad with a ... have sought the Kremlin's support, often in exchange for access to oil fields ...

Let your propaganda horn sleep for a moment. I don't discuss with you about Russia. You are a fanatic enemy of Russia.

 

[Silver Cat]

 

[Litwin]

Belarus plane: What impact could tougher action against Belarus have?

What further sanctions are in place against Belarus and what impact might they have?

www.bbc.com

Belarus needs to be isolated

The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

?

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.

What did you think? Lukashenko used the American style, which he had learned from Donlad Trump, isn't it? Torture is a theme in the USA. Or Donald Trump was educated from men like Lukashenko. The difference: Lukashenko really stole the elections in Belarus.

According to T. Snyder, it is possible that Moscow initiated this special operation, as the activities of the NEXTA channel were a problem for the Putin regime.
Gazeta Wyborcza

Terror kontra prawda na Białorusi. Co porwanie Romana Protasiewicza oznacza dla nas wszystkich [SNYDER]

Choćbyś nie wiadomo jak był ważny, raczej mało prawdopodobne, że dyktator wyśle za tobą myśliwiec, by sprowadzić twój samolot na ziemię i cię aresztować. Tymczasem właśnie to przydarzyło się młodemu białoruskiemu dziennikarzowi Romanowi Protasiewiczowi.

wyborcza.pl

 

[DrLove]

Russia/China are simply competitors that threaten to cut into US economic fortunes. US aggression has been responsible for roughly 40 wars since the end of WW2.

No, my friend
The issue is not economic fortunes but abuses of human rights in attempting to assassinate or imprison those who speak out against you

A military solution is not always the answer.....an economic solution often is

Lukashenko, as well as Putin, Baiden, Obama or Poroshenko abused human rights. Any government do it.
It is bad, but it is reality.

Sorry, not buying your “Obama and Biden are as bad as Putin, Lukashenko and Poroshenko”

Makes you look like a fool

I’m a bit worried about this Silver Clown.
Nuclear war is winnable and 100-200 million dead Americans is acceptable?
Lord Jesus this forum attracts a lotta crazies.

Aren't you worried about the Chief of Stratcom, Adm. Charles Richard?

Charles Richard, U.S. Strategic Command chief: Nuclear war with China or Russia ‘real possibility’

The United States must be ready for a nuclear war with China or Russia and seek new ways to deter both countries’ use of newly acquired advanced strategic weapons, the commander of the U.S. Strategic Command is warning in a major new review of the global balance of nuclear forces.

m.washingtontimes.com

Nuclear war is "a very real possibility " exactly because it is survivable and winnable.

No, just you. Charles Richard did not suggest it was “winnable”. But hey, we’ll give you an AR-15, put you in the middle of the desert and you can scream FREEDUMB!! as a mini nuke barrels down on your forehead. One less bell to answer/ one less egg to fry.