- Mar 1, 2008
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Not really.Its just unlike the majority of posters at USMB,I i talk with people in oakland who are on top of this so because of that.I actually know whats really going on.Wow...you certainly seem an expert in this stuff.same here.i also am not a Raiders fan but you are so right,they belong in oakland. Them not playing in oakland is like the yankees leaving new york for vegas.I mean their identity is new york which is why they are called the bronx bombers.You certainly make an interesting case.This is actually not breaking.It was announced in the bay area in California about a couple weeks ago which was just in time for Christmas for Oakland fans.Its breaking for everybody else around here though obviously since nobody else mentioned it. I just waited as long as i did to mention this now because I wanted everybody to see how st louis kicked butt in THEIR lawsuit against the NFL first AND won. this is what you can expect.LOL
And just think, the City of Oakland has an even stronger case, and can really stick the screws to the Traiders and NFL. They'll be screaming bloody mercy that they would only have to pay $24 million + attorney's fees.
I kept saying the last several months that st louis was kicking ass in their lawsuit against the corrupt NFL. I also admit however I also said many times-"Man I am beginning to think the politicians in Oakland have all been bought off by the NFL. That was the ONLY thing that made any sense because it made no sense that it took this long to happen.should have happened over a year ago.
The other reason i thought that was the only thing that made any sense why they did not file the lawsuit like st louis did was because as i said many times,Oakland has an even STRONGER case against the NFL than st Louis did so if st louis won,then Imagine how Oakland will CRUSH the NFL in THEIR lawsuit?
Everybody here should listen to this short 4 minute video in this link that says Chris Leighton in it. after you click it on,He is the one leading the charge in the lawsuit.
I got to talk to him once about it last week and he told me the REASON it did take so long for Oakland to file the lawsuit was because Oakland after losing their team once before and trying to stop the move,for a long time they did not want to try and fight it and go through all that again But they had to be convinced that NFL relocations are TEN TIMES more difficult to have now than they were back in the early 80's when traiter Al Davis moved them to LA. Had the NFL relocation rules been in place back then that are in place now,Al Davis would NEVER have been allowed to move the Raiders to LA back then.
I hope you are right. Though I would like to see an NFL team in Las Vegas, I do NOT want it to be the Raiders.
I am NOT a Raiders fan. But I am a BIG fan of the Raiders staying in Oakland.
I did not like it when the Raiders were in LA and I don't want to see them move now.
The name Raiders without Oakland in front of it just doesnt work. when they were in LA anytime they said Los Angeles Raiders,it sounded so childish,you just couldnt put los angeles raides in the same name with NFL,they sounded like an arena football team or something like that.
I am glad you see unlike most people that have come on here,that oakland has a very strong case against the NFL. The reason i am very confidant that vegas will have a new team but it wont be the raiders is because st louis won THEIR case against the NFL and Oaklands case is even stronger than st louis's was and not only that,is even stronger than clevelands was when they sued the NFL and modell when he tried to take the Browns team name to balttimore.
when cleveland threatened the lawsuit against him both him and the NFL backed down and settled the case out of court avoiding trial with modell settling by leaving the name in Cleveland .
I see the same thing happening with the raiders.
speaking of that,guess what? the trial date is set in two years from now,
you think davis is going to want to go to court and fight this? He tried hard as hell to get the courts to drop the lawsuit but to no avail .you KNOW he was crying when he heard the news the lawsuit would not be dropped.
It is not looking good for davis at all,recently at an anti trust itigation hearing where all the NFL owners were present,THEY all had their lawyers with them and they were all appointed by the NFL. David had his lawyer with him as well but guess what? the difference is he was the ONLY owner who did not have the NFL appoint one for him,he had to hire his OWN? you think the other owners are going to back davis up in oaklands lawsuit? Not happening.
What I don't understand is - why don;t cities get 20-30 year guarantees from the teams they build the stadiums for? Have some cities done that? Or is that illegal somehow? Do you know?
Well compared to the many ignorant posters that have come on here such as WRONGwinger, who seriously believe the LAMESTREAM media in what THEY are reporting that the stadium will be NFL ready for the 2020 season,then I for sure look like an expert in that way thats for sure.
USMB has the most ignorant sports fans.you venture outside of USMB and i am preaching to the choir to posters on sports message boards when i say that the stadium wont be ready for the 2020 season.Thats common knowledge OUTSIDE of USMB. the people that keep coming on here saying I am full of shit that the stadium wont be ready for the 2020 season,THEY are the ones full of shit and are going to look stupid with egg on their face next season when the stadium is NOT ready yet.
Actually that seems to be what cities DO actually.I cant speak for other cities but I do know in the Rams case,that was done when they moved to st louis in 95.
when they moved to st louis in 95 the agreement with the city and the team was the team signed a 20 year stadium lease agreement with them. I did not know about that but many other Ram fans in LA DID and that is why unlike them,they were very optimistic about the rams coming back in 20 years because it was a horrible deal and a terrible lease agreement,the rams were advised by attorneys NOT to sign the deal but the then owner of the Rams back then,the evil bitch Georgia Frontiere,she was so eager to get the Rams to her hometown city that she did not look at details in the contract and was eager to sign it.
The deal called for the city to keep the stadium in the top 1/3 tier of stadiums in the NFL and back then many of the older stadiums were getting new stadiums built when the rams moved there so the newer stadiums that got built at that time,all made the dome in st louis look like a junkyard,it was so outdated even thought it was still ONLY 20 years old. Because the city violated the terms of the lease agreement back then and did not honor the terms of the contract,the team was free to leave.
That is ANOTHER perfect example how USMB has the most ignorant sports posters at this board i have ever seen because even though i spelled that out to them DUMMIES style MANY times,it just went through one ear and out the other with them when i tried explaining to them the Rams were coming back to LA. they werr sooooo sure i was wrong and they were right that when they were proven wrong,they got angry like a child everytime i asked them the simple question what was it they were saying about the rams never coming back to LA? why do people around here act like its the end of the world to admit they were wrong? there were only like a couple of people back then that had the foresight that I did to see the obvious that they were coming back and i knew what i was talking about.
whats REALLY unbelieveable is even after all this time,you would think after THAT happened,posters would wake up and understand i know what i am talking about. The Rams have been back in LA three years now right? well FIVE years ago when i first came on here and said they would be back in LA,the majhority of the posters thought i was on drugs and living in a fantasyland,you would think after i proved them wrong THEN,they would listen to me by NOW and see that THEY are being fools believing the media what they tell them that the stadium in Vegas will be ready in 2020
The people that have come on here and said I am full of shit that the stadium will not be ready for the 2020 season,i guarantee they wont show their faces around here on this thread when they are proven wrong. they did not show their faces when I called them out on this thread three years ago asking them what they had to say now after i proved them wrong when they kept saying the rams would never come back to LA. as you can see,they were cowards.
Lets take a look at the progress of the Vegas stiadium.Here is a recent pic of the stadium. We are at the end of april now,there have been reports in the papers there has been a delay in the progress,can anybody with a brain look at this picture here and SERIOUSLY tell me this stadium will be ready by august 2020 to host an NFL game? where are the seats other the the dozen or so in this pic? ,wheres the roof of the stadium?