BREAKING: NORAD is Monitoring ‘One or Two’ Potential New Spy Balloons over North America

Wait. They don't even know the number?

Watching the first balloon come straight down after being shot, they could have shot it down anytime there were at least a few clear miles either way under it.
 
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BREAKING: TRUDEAU ORDERS SHOOTDOWN: US F-22 Shot Object Down Over Yukon (NORAD Tracking High Altitude Object Over Northern Canada)​


 
TRUDEAU ORDERS SHOOTDOWN: US F-22 Shot Object Down Over Yukon (NORAD Tracking High Altitude Object Over Northern Canada)

Explain to me why an American F-22 and a Canadian jet fly to the Yukon in Canada, but it is the AMERICAN F-22 which ends up being the one to shoot it down?

Is Canada going to reimburse us for the spent Sidewinder?
 
And let's not forget this either....

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China will keep sending balloons to fly over us because they don't take their business partner... Joe Biden, seriously.
 
Yesterday, China was still telling the same story. They claim the balloons are weather balloons and were blown off course. This is straight from China. Caution: Lots of BS....

AFP: A senior US State Department official has said the equipment found on the Chinese balloon was clearly for intelligence surveillance and inconsistent with the equipment aboard weather balloons. And around the same time, the US House of Representatives also passed a resolution condemning China for using a surveillance balloon over US territory. What is China’s response to this? Could you perhaps tell us what equipment was on the balloon?

Mao Ning: The Chinese side has repeatedly shared information and stated its position on the unintended entry of the unmanned Chinese civilian airship into US airspace due to force majeure. The US Congress’s resolution is purely about scoring political points and dramatizing the whole thing. China deplores it and firmly opposes it.

On your second question, I do not have the information.


This was their story on Feb. 4th...

Q: On February 3, senior US State Department officials said at a briefing via teleconference that due to the entry of a Chinese unmanned airship into US airspace, US Secretary of State Blinken has decided to postpone his planned trip to China. Do you have any comment?
A: Regarding the unintended entry of a Chinese unmanned airship into US airspace due to force majeure, the Chinese side has verified it and communicated it to the US side. It is a civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological, purposes. Affected by the Westerlies and with limited self-steering capability, the airship deviated far from its planned course. This is entirely an unexpected situation caused by force majeure and the facts are very clear. China always acts in strict accordance with international law and respects the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries. We have no intention to violate and has never violated the territory or airspace of any sovereign country. Some politicians and media in the US have hyped it up to attack and smear China. The Chinese side is firmly opposed to that.
Maintaining contact and communication at all levels is an important common understanding reached by the Chinese and US presidents at their meeting in Bali. One of the tasks of the diplomatic teams on both sides is to properly manage bilateral relations, particularly to manage some unexpected situations in a cool-headed and prudent manner. In fact, neither side has ever announced that there would be a visit. It is a matter for the US to make its latest announcement, and we respect that.


Here is what they said about the one over Latin America and the ones claimed under Trump...

CNN: The Pentagon says another surveillance balloon from China has been spotted over Latin America and the US says there were three instances during the Trump administration of China flying surveillance balloons over the US. What’s the purpose of these balloons from China?

Mao Ning: With regard to the balloon over Latin America, it has been verified that the unmanned airship is from China, of civilian nature and used for flight test. Affected by the weather and with limited self-steering capability, the airship deviated far from its planned course and entered into the airspace of Latin America and the Caribbean. China is a responsible country and always acts in strict accordance with international law. We have informed relevant sides. It is being properly handled and will not pose any threat to any country. They have expressed their understanding.

As to the alleged three instances of China flying surveillance balloons over the US during the Trump administration, I noted that Mr. Trump has denied the claim.


Here is what they said about the shootdown...

NHK: Chinese media reported in 2019 that a Chinese air force fighter jet shot down a foreign spy balloon. So why did China protest to the US after the latter downed what it claimed was a surveillance balloon?

Mao Ning: The unmanned Chinese airship is of civilian nature. Its unintended entry into US airspace is entirely unexpected and caused by force majeure. It didn’t pose any threat to any person or to the national security of the US. The US should have properly handled such incidents in a calm and professional manner not involving the use of force, yet they decided to do otherwise, which is a clear overreaction.


And then again on Feb 9th...

AFP: The White House said yesterday that the Chinese balloon shot down last week was part of a fleet that have spanned five continents. Japan says it’s coordinating with the US to analyze balloon-like objects spotted over Japan in 2020 and 2021. So my question is, does the foreign ministry have any new information to add on the balloon issue today? As you’ve described, the two balloons spotted over the US and Latin America are weather balloons. Could you provide any details about the equipment on board and the entities that own the balloons?

Mao Ning: On the airship, the Chinese side has repeatedly shared its information. The unintended, unexpected entry of the unmanned Chinese civilian airship into US airspace is entirely caused by force majeure. The Chinese side has made that clear in its communication with the US side time and again, yet the US overreacted by using force. China firmly opposes and deplores this. I am not aware of any “fleet of balloons”. That narrative is probably part of the information and public opinion warfare the US has waged on China. As to who is the world’s number one country of spying, eavesdropping and surveillance, that is plainly visible to the international community.

Japan should adopt an objective and fair position on the airship incident instead of dramatizing it like the US.

As to your last question, I have nothing to offer.

 
The only things that make sense to me, regarding China's motivations for continuing the balloon assault are...

- The balloons are very sophisticated, and are providing such valuable intelligence, that China is going "all in" before we develop impenetrable defenses.
- They are testing of our defenses.
- The balloons are diversions from some other ongoing activity. (e.g undersea activity)

There are political aspects too, like Biden being very weak and a puppet of China, of course. China knows the repercussions are likely to be weak. Ya think we are going to enact sever sanctions on China when we rely on them for life-saving drugs and batteries and just about everything?


Over 70% of active pharmaceutical ingredients used in the U.S. market are produced overseas. Almost all of the ibuprofen sold here comes from China...

The leading supplier of 5G equipment — and largest owner of patents — is Huawei, not Cisco Systems CSCO +1.1%. Huawei is the poster child of a China that has graduated from Happy Meal toy makers to Polo stitch-and-sew factory worker to the guys who created the TikTok app...
 
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House China Committee Chair agrees with your assessment....

House China committee chair claims Beijing COORDINATED spy balloon with Blinken's visit: Republican Mike Gallagher says timing of device shot down over South Carolina is not a 'coincidence' and Xi wanted to 'humiliate' Biden​

  • Wisconsin GOP Rep. Mike Gallagher said the Biden administration had been caught 'flat-footed' with its response to a Chinese surveillance balloon
  • He called for a House Intelligence Committee-specific briefing on the incident
  • Gallagher said the spy balloon was sent to 'humiliate' the United States
 

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