BREAKING: Jack Smith drops election subversion case against Trum

[Mortis]

Your foolish belief in factually inaccurate.

Nahhhh, you are just too foolish to "see through" the heavy shit that the Democrats did for the past 4 years!

 

[Mortis]

As you know, that's a lie. I can see you aren't capable of doing anything but repeating debunked talking points so I'm done with you now.

No lie here. You're too stupid to understand the truth. That's fine with me, I'm done with you as well...

 

[berg80]

Keeping him from winning an election was the point of the prosecution. It didn't work, so why beat a dead horse?

One of the great ironies through all of this is trump deceitfully accusing the DoJ of election interference for prosecuting him in a case involving his interference of the 2020 election.

And of course the rubes fell for it as they always do.

 

[AntonToo]

You are insane

Oh yes Billie, you go on and tell me about sanity.

 

[AntonToo]

He either committed crimes that deserve prosecution or he didn’t. This sends a terrible signal about how the rule of law operates in the United States.

It isn’t up for a vote—and you shouldn’t escape consequences by winning an election

Exactly.

I don't understand why America is so eager to flush "no one above the law" down the toilet and replace it with special rules for special people.

 

[berg80]

Nahhhh, you are just too foolish to "see through" the heavy shit that the Democrats did for the past 4 years!

1. The Defendant, DONALD J. TRUMP, was the forty-fifth President of the United States and a candidate for re-election in 2020. The Defendant lost the 2020 presidential election.

2. Despite having lost, the Defendant was determined to remain in power. So for more than two months following election day on November 3, 2020, the Defendant spread lies that there had been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that he had actually won. These claims were false, and the Defendant knew that they were false. But the Defendant repeated and widely
disseminated them anyway—to make his knowingly false claims appear legitimate, create an intense national atmosphere of mistrust and anger, and erode public faith in the administration of the election.

3. The Defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and even to claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election and that he had won. He was also entitled to formally challenge the results of the election through lawful and appropriate means, such as by seeking recounts or audits of the popular vote in states or filing lawsuits challenging ballots and procedures. Indeed, in many cases, the Defendant did pursue these methods of contesting the election results. His efforts to change the outcome in any state through recounts, audits, or legal challenges were uniformly unsuccessful.4. Shortly after election day, the Defendant also pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results. In so doing, the Defendant perpetrated three criminal conspiracies:

a. A conspiracy to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified by the federal government, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371;
b. A conspiracy to corruptly obstruct and impede the January 6 congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified ("the certification proceeding"), in violation of 18U.S.C. § 1512(k);and
c. A conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one's vote counted, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 241.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf

Now you know why TWO grand juries voted to indict trump for trying to steal the election. One for the first indictment, the second for the superseding indictment. Both based on the overwhelming evidence.

 

[Billiejeens]

He either committed crimes that deserve prosecution or he didn’t. This sends a terrible signal about how the rule of law operates in the United States.

It isn’t up for a vote—and you shouldn’t escape consequences by winning an election

All of the charges were brought to keep him from winning an election.

They manipulated the legal system to interfere in the election

The signal that the US voters sent you is that is a terrible thing to do.

 

[Billiejeens]

Exactly.

I don't understand why America is so eager to flush "no one above the law" down the toilet and replace it with special rules for special people.

The special rules were set up to stop President Trump from returning to office.
America rejected those special rules

 

[Billiejeens]

1. The Defendant, DONALD J. TRUMP, was the forty-fifth President of the United States and a candidate for re-election in 2020. The Defendant lost the 2020 presidential election.

2. Despite having lost, the Defendant was determined to remain in power. So for more than two months following election day on November 3, 2020, the Defendant spread lies that there had been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that he had actually won. These claims were false, and the Defendant knew that they were false. But the Defendant repeated and widely
disseminated them anyway—to make his knowingly false claims appear legitimate, create an intense national atmosphere of mistrust and anger, and erode public faith in the administration of the election.

3. The Defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and even to claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election and that he had won. He was also entitled to formally challenge the results of the election through lawful and appropriate means, such as by seeking recounts or audits of the popular vote in states or filing lawsuits challenging ballots and procedures. Indeed, in many cases, the Defendant did pursue these methods of contesting the election results. His efforts to change the outcome in any state through recounts, audits, or legal challenges were uniformly unsuccessful.4. Shortly after election day, the Defendant also pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results. In so doing, the Defendant perpetrated three criminal conspiracies:

a. A conspiracy to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified by the federal government, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371;
b. A conspiracy to corruptly obstruct and impede the January 6 congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified ("the certification proceeding"), in violation of 18U.S.C. § 1512(k);and
c. A conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one's vote counted, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 241.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf

Now you know why TWO grand juries voted to indict trump for trying to steal the election. One for the first indictment, the second for the superseding indictment. Both based on the overwhelming evidence.

You don't understand what a grand jury has as its purpose.

It's common among people like you.

 

[Billiejeens]

One of the great ironies through all of this is trump deceitfully accusing the DoJ of election interference for prosecuting him in a case involving his interference of the 2020 election.

And of course the rubes fell for it as they always do.

No

Most of the voters understood it.

 

[WorldWatcher]

So, will Jack Smith give a full report and defend it in front of Congress and the Senate?

Hopefully.

Also hopefully he finishes his final report before the end of December so he can turn it over to the Attorney General so that AG Garland can release it to the public before the new administration comes in and hides it from the public.

WW

 

[SeaMajor7]

Hopefully.

Also hopefully he finishes his final report before the end of December so he can turn it over to the Attorney General so that AG Garland can release it to the public before the new administration comes in and hides it from the public.

WW

There is NOTHING to hide, you fucking arrogant LOSER.
The American People have rejected your Soviet LAWFARE, so go pound sand.

 

[WorldWatcher]

There is NOTHING to hide, you fucking arrogant LOSER.
The American People have rejected your Soviet LAWFARE, so go pound sand.

If there is nothing to hide, then let the evidence become public.

So you agree that once the Special Counsel finishes his report with the attached evidence including transcripts of phone calls, texts, emails, video, transcripts of Grand Jury Testimony, etc....

Should be released to the public by EITHER AG Garland or the Trump Administration AG right.

Of course that assume "There is NOTHING to hide,...".

WW

 

[Nostra]

1. The Defendant, DONALD J. TRUMP, was the forty-fifth President of the United States and a candidate for re-election in 2020. The Defendant lost the 2020 presidential election.

2. Despite having lost, the Defendant was determined to remain in power. So for more than two months following election day on November 3, 2020, the Defendant spread lies that there had been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that he had actually won. These claims were false, and the Defendant knew that they were false. But the Defendant repeated and widely
disseminated them anyway—to make his knowingly false claims appear legitimate, create an intense national atmosphere of mistrust and anger, and erode public faith in the administration of the election.

3. The Defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and even to claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election and that he had won. He was also entitled to formally challenge the results of the election through lawful and appropriate means, such as by seeking recounts or audits of the popular vote in states or filing lawsuits challenging ballots and procedures. Indeed, in many cases, the Defendant did pursue these methods of contesting the election results. His efforts to change the outcome in any state through recounts, audits, or legal challenges were uniformly unsuccessful.4. Shortly after election day, the Defendant also pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results. In so doing, the Defendant perpetrated three criminal conspiracies:

a. A conspiracy to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified by the federal government, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371;
b. A conspiracy to corruptly obstruct and impede the January 6 congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified ("the certification proceeding"), in violation of 18U.S.C. § 1512(k);and
c. A conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one's vote counted, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 241.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf

Now you know why TWO grand juries voted to indict trump for trying to steal the election. One for the first indictment, the second for the superseding indictment. Both based on the overwhelming evidence.

How is that case going?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Also hopefully he finishes his final report before the end of December so he can turn it over to the Attorney General so that AG Garland can release it to the public

Your only problem here?
Garland won't do it.

 

[AntonToo]

The special rules were set up to stop President Trump from returning to office.
America rejected those special rules

What special rules and when were any of them were up for vote??



Any other perp would be convited ten times over by now for the shit he was up to. In fact many of his co-conspirators WERE convicted and already served/serving out their jail sentences or were corruptly pardoned by Trump during his first term.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Your only problem here?
Garland won't do it.

He should.

WW

 

[M14 Shooter]

He should.

Call him. Convince him.
I'm sure he'll listen.

 

[Billiejeens]

Hopefully.

Also hopefully he finishes his final report before the end of December so he can turn it over to the Attorney General so that AG Garland can release it to the public before the new administration comes in and hides it from the public.

WW

Why not just read the indictment?
That spells it all out.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Why not just read the indictment?
That spells it all out.

Because the final report will expand on the indictments allegations and provide the evidence to back it up.

Both for his attempts at election interference and overthrowing the election - which I personally think of as the weaker case.

But more important the espionage charges for failing to return national defense information and storing it in a bathroom and on a ballroom stage at MAL.

WW