BREAKING: Federal judge issues order halting deportation of Colorado antisemitic attack suspect’s family

[Rigby5]

The father did ask for asylum and it's been pending for years. From the link in the OP:
The family arrived in the US in August 2022 and were initially granted entry until February 2023, DHS said in a Wednesday statement. Soliman applied for asylum in September 2022 in Denver, the agency said.

I say send the family members back to Egypt. The father is now a terrorist and needs to be dealt with accordingly.

Wrong.
The father likely is just emotionally ill, and that has no reflection on the family at all.

Since Hamas is trying to liberate a country being stolen by Israel, it is impossible for them to be "terrorists".
They are justified in any retaliation they can do, and it is Menachim Begin who practically invented terrorism when he blew up the British peace keepers in the King David Hotel in 1946.
What you claim is like calling the French Resistance "terrorists" in WWII.
The bigger picture changes everything.
Israel is the guilty party.

 

[struth]

The 5th amendment.
You can't deport without a hearing in front of a judge.

Hahab the 5th amendment says nothing about deportations or hearings

You are clueless

 

[Rigby5]

Please point me to the part of the Constitution that says foreigners here illegally get to go before a judge when they overstay their visas.

{...
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
...}

It says no "person".
It says nothing about citizenship or not.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

I'm arguing for Constitutional protections.



When unable to address my points................

Why do you give a **** that these non-citizen pieces of shit get every little wiggle room afforded our Constitution?
Why won't you look the other way, and allow us to deport non-citizen scum who make our country a worse place for us all? Goddamned ******* boy scout.

 

[Rigby5]

If a visa has expired, no further due process is needed. The visa is the only permission a visitor has to be in the country. If it has expired, so has the permission.

Wrong.
A visa is NOT the only legal means to being in the US.
A person seeking asylum does not get a visa.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

{...
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
...}

It says no "person".
It says nothing about citizenship or not.

As usual, 'citizenship' is meaningless to Dimocrats like you.

 

[Rigby5]

Not if their VISA expired. If they wanted to enter under asylum, they should have requested it at the time.

Wrong.
A person can visit first, to decide if that is where they want asylum.

 

[Rigby5]

As usual, 'citizenship' is meaningless to Dimocrats like you.

Wrong.
It is the Constitution that makes no distinction over citizenship.
Can you rob, rape, or murder tourists?
Of course not.
The law makes no distinction on citizenship.

 

[Rigby5]

Why do you give a **** that these non-citizen pieces of shit get every little wiggle room afforded our Constitution?
Why won't you look the other way, and allow us to deport non-citizen scum who make our country a worse place for us all? Goddamned ******* boy scout.

Because then you could be the one deported.
Are your ancestors native or immigrants?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Libs are going to make a mockery of a well-intentioned law to the determent of truly needy applicants

Harboring the family of an illegal alien firebomber!

You should be ashamed

They should be, but they're not. It just shows you how badly they want to bring America down.

 

[Rigby5]

Due process doesn't mean a court hearing. It can be whatever the law decides. In immigration matters, it's usually an interview with an immigration officer NOT a judge.

No it does not depend on "whatever the law decides".
The constitution is clear that all people have exactly the same rights, regardless of citizenship.
What is "usually" done is to cut costs, but is voluntary deportation, not forced deportation.

 

[Rigby5]

Hahab the 5th amendment says nothing about deportations or hearings

You are clueless

Wrong.
The fifth amendment says a hearing is required for everything, which include deportations.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Because then you could be the one deported.
Are your ancestors native or immigrants?

I'm a naturalized citizen, but I realize 'citizen' is a dirty word to you people. I'm not eligible for deportation.

 

[AZrailwhale]

When I look at the laws, it seems like they do need to appear before a judge. Expedited removal does not seem to apply to their situation.

Expedited Removal Explainer - American Immigration Council

Expedited removal is a process by which low-level immigration officers can quickly deport certain noncitizens who are undocumented or have committed fraud or misrepresentation.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

Yes, I would take the same tact no matter who they are and I did demand due process for anyone pending charges for January 6th.

You're full of shit. You have to make shit up about others to justify your own bad behavior.

It doesn't apply in this case. They can be immediately expelled for overstaying their visas.

 

[pknopp]

Why do you give a **** that these non-citizen pieces of shit get every little wiggle room afforded our Constitution?
Why won't you look the other way, and allow us to deport non-citizen scum who make our country a worse place for us all? Goddamned ******* boy scout.

I support our Constitutional rights over the government no matter where they are applicable

 

[AZrailwhale]

They have the right to request asylum.

Only if they had immediately applied for asylum upon entering the USA under our law. Under international law they don't qualify for political asylum because the USA isn't the nearest safe nation to their home.

 

[pknopp]

Only if they had immediately applied for asylum upon entering the USA under our law. Under international law they don't qualify for political asylum because the USA isn't the nearest safe nation to their home.

What other international laws do you support over actual US law's?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Wrong.
He came here when 5 and was recognized as DACA.
You can't just reverse the last 13 years.

MULTIPLE times courts have ruled that DACA is unlawful, but for some reason you guys continue to call on it.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Wrong.
The father likely is just emotionally ill, and that has no reflection on the family at all.

Since Hamas is trying to liberate a country being stolen by Israel, it is impossible for them to be "terrorists".
They are justified in any retaliation they can do, and it is Menachim Begin who practically invented terrorism when he blew up the British peace keepers in the King David Hotel in 1946.
What you claim is like calling the French Resistance "terrorists" in WWII.
The bigger picture changes everything.
Israel is the guilty party.

Aha, you are a HAMAS supporter. What a ******* piece of shit. You now go on the ignore list.

 

[Marener]

It doesn't apply in this case. They can be immediately expelled for overstaying their visas.

They can't be removed through an expedited process. To deport them, they have to go through a hearing before an immigration judge.