BREAKING: FDA to ban trans-fats

[martybegan]

Considering how fat America is, it's clear that people can't monitor what they eat. Of course what trans fats do to a person's body end up effecting the cost of healthcare for everybody because we all pay for other people's stupidity.
Next time your insurance premium goes up, go ahead and scratch your size 40 waist and bitch about the government!

Fine, now ban skiing, and any extreme sports that result in injuries, knee and hip replacements, and other "costs" that I have to pay for.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Well, the pt chosen to be ignored by the quasi-libertarians is that one really has little personal choice. You want a crisp, you're gonna get some transfat. So your market option is to not eat them. The food industry has modified to an extent, a large one at that, but there just isn't a market for people demand no trans fat. There's no market solution unless the result is to keep trans fat. And they do add to cholesterol. Our crisps and chips may suffer, however.

As a consumer, I have many choices. If i were the manufacturer of "crisps" or "chips", I just got my choices removed by the government. Which in turn, takes another choice away from consumers.

The food industry creeates products people want. If people do not want them, then they will not make them any more. But to use a regulation agency as a prohibition tool, is of course, the very MO of a Statist.

 

[Gadawg73]

And cigarettes are still legal.
Government sure is smart.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

We should be frying foods the old fashioned way

with lard.

We shoudl probably leave the decision to the indiviual. Something both republicans adn democrat LOLberals absolutely despise.

 

[boedicca]

ObamaCare causes millions to lose their health insurance, but we are supposed to ban a currently legal product in order to save 2,000.

Go figure.

 

[Interpol]

Transfats are poison.

America's obesity and diabetes scourge is costing several tens of billions of dollars a year.

Republicans always want to take us back to the 50's or earlier anyway, to a time before transfats, so I'm okay with banning them.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You, the American citizen, have just been ruled incapable of making the right decisions on what to cook and what to eat.

The government will now make those decisions for you. For your own good.

Why the government is more qualified than you are, has not been explained.

As the article describes, if there's something you want to put in your food, you'll have to petition the government for permission. The article notes that such petition will likely not be approved.

Move along.

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FDA to ban artery-clogging trans fats - Boston News, Weather, Sports | FOX 25 | MyFoxBoston

FDA to ban artery-clogging trans fats

Posted: Nov 07, 2013 9:45 AM PST
Updated: Nov 07, 2013 9:48 AM PST

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S., Food and Drug Administration announced Thursday it will require the food industry to gradually phase out artificial trans fats, saying they are a threat to Americans' health. Commissioner Margaret Hamburg said the move could prevent 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths each year.

Hamburg said that while the amount of trans fats in the country's diet has declined dramatically in the last decade, they "remain an area of significant public health concern." The trans fats have long been criticized by nutritionists, and New York City and other local governments have banned them.

Though they have been removed from many items, the fats are still found in processed foods, including in some microwave popcorns and frozen pizzas, refrigerated doughs, cookies, biscuits and ready-to-use frostings. They are also sometimes used by restaurants that use the fats for frying. Many larger chains have phased them out, but smaller restaurants may still get food containing trans fats from suppliers.

To phase them out, the FDA said it had made a preliminary determination that trans fats no longer fall in the agency's "generally recognized as safe" category, which is reserved for thousands of additives that manufacturers can add to foods without FDA review. Once trans fats are off the list, anyone who wants to use them would have to petition the agency for a regulation allowing it, and that would likely not be approved.


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if you look at the labels one hell of a lot of products already do...they are on their way out anyway.....it was a useless move...

saying they are a threat to Americans' health

pretty dam Hypercritical...cigarettes are still legal.....

 

[Pogo]

Then convince people not to buy products with them, dont use the federal government to decide people are not smart enough to take care of themselves.

I swear all progressive nanny-statists think we are all a bunch of fucking lemmings.

Good idea. Let's open the gates for arsenic and insecticides and diethylene glycol and e coli and salmonella and hell, let's toss narcotics in too. Let's find out what we've been missing. Expiration dates? Who needs 'em. Ingredients? Why would we not trust Big Food? What could possibly go wrong? Damn meat inspectors. Let the consumer take his chance. Then there's municipal water works-- what a waste of money.

Seriously, some of y'all cram your head WAY up your ass in the name of blind ideology.

Nice argumentum ad abusrdum. I shouldn't waste my time responding but:

How do all those actual poisions compare to something the human body is more than capable of digesting, but MAY cause increases in heart disease risks in some people?

Making someone put ingridents on a box is not banning the item.

Meat inspection for classification is paid by the industry and helps them, doesnt hurt them.

but keep being a pompous snarky jackass, it does you wonders.

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Argumentum ad absurdum, you fucking douche hack.

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[Sunshine]

Use butter. It's a lot better for you, and tastes better too!

 

[Pogo]

Well, the pt chosen to be ignored by the quasi-libertarians is that one really has little personal choice. You want a crisp, you're gonna get some transfat. So your market option is to not eat them. The food industry has modified to an extent, a large one at that, but there just isn't a market for people demand no trans fat. There's no market solution unless the result is to keep trans fat. And they do add to cholesterol. Our crisps and chips may suffer, however.

As a consumer, I have many choices. If i were the manufacturer of "crisps" or "chips", I just got my choices removed by the government. Which in turn, takes another choice away from consumers.

The food industry creeates products people want. If people do not want them, then they will not make them any more. But to use a regulation agency as a prohibition tool, is of course, the very MO of a Statist.

By all means -- make the case for transfats in nutrition. One of the basic food groups --- right?

I think the proper ironic emoticon is...

 

[Sunshine]

Good idea. Let's open the gates for arsenic and insecticides and diethylene glycol and e coli and salmonella and hell, let's toss narcotics in too. Let's find out what we've been missing. Expiration dates? Who needs 'em. Ingredients? Why would we not trust Big Food? What could possibly go wrong? Damn meat inspectors. Let the consumer take his chance. Then there's municipal water works-- what a waste of money.

Seriously, some of y'all cram your head WAY up your ass in the name of blind ideology.

Nice argumentum ad abusrdum. I shouldn't waste my time responding but:

How do all those actual poisions compare to something the human body is more than capable of digesting, but MAY cause increases in heart disease risks in some people?

Making someone put ingridents on a box is not banning the item.

Meat inspection for classification is paid by the industry and helps them, doesnt hurt them.

but keep being a pompous snarky jackass, it does you wonders.

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Argumentum ad absurdum, you fucking douche hack.

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Hey, if you don't like getting schooled, don't post stupid shit in the first place. Not rocket surgery.

What is a douche hack? That sounds painful! But the question is: Does it have any trans fat?

 

[Harry Dresden]

dont use the federal government to decide people are not smart enough to take care of themselves.

They're not, that's why all these fat ass right wingers are driving insurance rates through the roof. If they choose not to have medical insurance and will not seek treatment for their conditions, so be it. But there is no reason why everyone has to pay for these dumbasses poor decisions.

gee only Republicans are fat?....no fat-ass left wingers driving ins rates up?....

 

[Zoom-boing]

Good idea. Let's open the gates for arsenic and insecticides and diethylene glycol and e coli and salmonella and hell, let's toss narcotics in too. Let's find out what we've been missing. Expiration dates? Who needs 'em. Ingredients? Why would we not trust Big Food? What could possibly go wrong? Damn meat inspectors. Let the consumer take his chance. Then there's municipal water works-- what a waste of money.

Seriously, some of y'all cram your head WAY up your ass in the name of blind ideology.

Nice argumentum ad abusrdum. I shouldn't waste my time responding but:

How do all those actual poisions compare to something the human body is more than capable of digesting, but MAY cause increases in heart disease risks in some people?

Making someone put ingridents on a box is not banning the item.

Meat inspection for classification is paid by the industry and helps them, doesnt hurt them.

but keep being a pompous snarky jackass, it does you wonders.

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Argumentum ad absurdum, you fucking douche hack.

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^ Has no argument to counter marty, instead whines about his neg rep by posting it.

Government takes away choice of keeping health insurance, takes away choice of purchasing trans fat. Dems, the party of less choice!

 

[martybegan]

Good idea. Let's open the gates for arsenic and insecticides and diethylene glycol and e coli and salmonella and hell, let's toss narcotics in too. Let's find out what we've been missing. Expiration dates? Who needs 'em. Ingredients? Why would we not trust Big Food? What could possibly go wrong? Damn meat inspectors. Let the consumer take his chance. Then there's municipal water works-- what a waste of money.

Seriously, some of y'all cram your head WAY up your ass in the name of blind ideology.

Nice argumentum ad abusrdum. I shouldn't waste my time responding but:

How do all those actual poisions compare to something the human body is more than capable of digesting, but MAY cause increases in heart disease risks in some people?

Making someone put ingridents on a box is not banning the item.

Meat inspection for classification is paid by the industry and helps them, doesnt hurt them.

but keep being a pompous snarky jackass, it does you wonders.

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Argumentum ad absurdum, you fucking douche hack.

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Using argumentum ad absurdum is not schooling anyone you dime store hack.

 

[Pogo]

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Argumentum ad absurdum, you fucking douche hack.

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Hey, if you don't like getting schooled, don't post stupid shit.

Using argumentum ad absurdum is not schooling anyone you hack.

Not for those too stupid to get sarcasm, I guess not.

 

[Sunshine]

Well, the pt chosen to be ignored by the quasi-libertarians is that one really has little personal choice. You want a crisp, you're gonna get some transfat. So your market option is to not eat them. The food industry has modified to an extent, a large one at that, but there just isn't a market for people demand no trans fat. There's no market solution unless the result is to keep trans fat. And they do add to cholesterol. Our crisps and chips may suffer, however.

As a consumer, I have many choices. If i were the manufacturer of "crisps" or "chips", I just got my choices removed by the government. Which in turn, takes another choice away from consumers.

The food industry creeates products people want. If people do not want them, then they will not make them any more. But to use a regulation agency as a prohibition tool, is of course, the very MO of a Statist.

Look around your house. There is not one thing in it that is not regulated. Nothing. Glass, plastic, wood, animal, vegetable, mineral. Even the shit you flush. That is Administrative Law. While all you constitutional scholars are bemoaning things like guns and roses, the government is regulating your life into the ground.

Here is a list of JUST the federal agencies. This doesn't contain state, county, or city agencies. The Executive branch of the government creates all these agencies and regulates your ass around in circles every day. But, hey! You can still own a gun!

http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Well, the pt chosen to be ignored by the quasi-libertarians is that one really has little personal choice. You want a crisp, you're gonna get some transfat. So your market option is to not eat them. The food industry has modified to an extent, a large one at that, but there just isn't a market for people demand no trans fat. There's no market solution unless the result is to keep trans fat. And they do add to cholesterol. Our crisps and chips may suffer, however.

As a consumer, I have many choices. If i were the manufacturer of "crisps" or "chips", I just got my choices removed by the government. Which in turn, takes another choice away from consumers.

The food industry creeates products people want. If people do not want them, then they will not make them any more. But to use a regulation agency as a prohibition tool, is of course, the very MO of a Statist.

By all means -- make the case for transfats in nutrition. One of the basic food groups --- right?

I think the proper ironic emoticon is...

I'm thoroughly surprised that you missed the point.

 

[Pogo]

Nice argumentum ad abusrdum. I shouldn't waste my time responding but:

How do all those actual poisions compare to something the human body is more than capable of digesting, but MAY cause increases in heart disease risks in some people?

Making someone put ingridents on a box is not banning the item.

Meat inspection for classification is paid by the industry and helps them, doesnt hurt them.

but keep being a pompous snarky jackass, it does you wonders.

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Argumentum ad absurdum, you fucking douche hack.

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What is a douche hack? That sounds painful! But the question is: Does it have any trans fat?

Douche hack... douche hack... I believe that would be an unlicensed taxi with a shower in it.

 

[martybegan]

Hey, if you don't like getting schooled, don't post stupid shit.

Using argumentum ad absurdum is not schooling anyone you hack.

Not for those too stupid to get sarcasm, I guess not.

That wasnt sarcasm, you were trying to make a point with exaggeration, and you failed miserably.

go run off and try to ban a 2 year old from getting a lolipop.

 

[bendog]

Well, the pt chosen to be ignored by the quasi-libertarians is that one really has little personal choice. You want a crisp, you're gonna get some transfat. So your market option is to not eat them. The food industry has modified to an extent, a large one at that, but there just isn't a market for people demand no trans fat. There's no market solution unless the result is to keep trans fat. And they do add to cholesterol. Our crisps and chips may suffer, however.

As a consumer, I have many choices. If i were the manufacturer of "crisps" or "chips", I just got my choices removed by the government. Which in turn, takes another choice away from consumers.

The food industry creeates products people want. If people do not want them, then they will not make them any more. But to use a regulation agency as a prohibition tool, is of course, the very MO of a Statist.

I get it that you don't think a democratically elected govt should have the power to remove a harmful ingredient from processed food when consumer choice has proven ineffective in removing it.

however, if people really really miss their transfats, I figure they'll elect someone who will reverse course.

That is, I think a significant number of people just don't care one way or another, and your are moonshite bat crazy.