BREAKING: Barack Obama's shocking ties to Moammar Gadhafi!!!

[rightwinger]

I for one am shocked....SHOCKED I say

I am not shocked that FoxNews would report this

They didn't.

The US State Department did: Bad weather stalls US evacuation from Libya - Yahoo! News

Fox only relayed the story.


Apparantly, the ferry got out today. Thank God.

But it doesn't change the fact that Obama risked it when we didn't have to. We could've had them out within a few hours if Obama ordered it. He didn't.

So ...All Americans were SAFELY evacuated

Ferry carrying Americans able to leave Libya - USATODAY.com

No wonder Fox News is outraged

 

[Jarhead]

Tell us about your plan for a "rescue mission". Which branch of the military would you send? How would they affect this "rescue"? How many soldiers would be put in harms way so that the people on a ferry in the harbor could get out?

Ok, lets see.......

2 SEAL teams could easily get in and secure the ferry. A unit of Marines could too. They took Tripoli before, remember?

Ah, Buc - the ferry was already secured. The people on it were not in harms way.

To the contrary...they were secured from any type of land attack/invasion.

However, the reports out of Tripoli were those of air attacks on civilians.

Truth is...in a situation like that, you do not react...you MUST be proactive.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

oh all The people that Obama has connections to and people on the left are up in arms about a phone call with a fake Koch that proved Walker didnt really know who Koch is personally. Then they act like that phone call was exposing the biggest political conspiracy ever yet brush off all the crazy connections obama has. The hippocrisy annoys me.

Well, it shouldn't. You know who they are, it's been on full display for 10 years. These are the same folks who now cry for civility who were yelling "chimp", "shrub", "Hitler", etc at Bush and cheering books written on how to assassinate him while simultaneously screahing like Banshies at these thug rallies.

They're far worse than hypocrits... they're Statists and Fascists of the worst kind.

Good news is... they're being marginalized... look at what's going on with the public sector unions and the Fleebaggers... you think the majority of people aren't watching this and having a giant WTF moment?

 

[The Infidel]

my 'shock' though palpable, does not rise to levels necessary to motivate my give a shit factor- not.....shocking....... enough, please provide more shock (therapy).

Im hardly ever "shocked" by anything with Obama....

 

[Jarhead]

I for one am shocked....SHOCKED I say

I am not shocked that FoxNews would report this

They didn't.

The US State Department did: Bad weather stalls US evacuation from Libya - Yahoo! News

Fox only relayed the story.


Apparantly, the ferry got out today. Thank God.

But it doesn't change the fact that Obama risked it when we didn't have to. We could've had them out within a few hours if Obama ordered it. He didn't.

So ...All Americans were SAFELY evacuated

Ferry carrying Americans able to leave Libya - USATODAY.com

No wonder Fox News is outraged

Yeah...being detained for 3 days in a very unstable environement where a man who openly hates Americans has already ordered air attacks on his own people is no big deal.

I mean...what can happen in a mere 3 days?

 

[8537]

Ok, lets see.......

2 SEAL teams could easily get in and secure the ferry. A unit of Marines could too. They took Tripoli before, remember?

Ah, Buc - the ferry was already secured. The people on it were not in harms way.

To the contrary...they were secured from any type of land attack/invasion.

However, the reports out of Tripoli were those of air attacks on civilians.

Truth is...in a situation like that, you do not react...you MUST be proactive.

So, out of a fear that the Libyan government would bomb an American vessel, we should send in the US military?

 

[MichIndy]

Then why did the state department say the situation was unstable and unpredictable?

Unpredictable means "We don't know what will happen."
Unstable means "This shit could go up in flames any second."

They weren't safe. Gadhafi was ordering jets to bomb civlians, hell, not "was", "is" still doing it.

The people are fleeing for reason. There are thousands cramming airplanes at airports to get out.

Fact is Obama could've rescued them immediately but did not. The LOGICAL answer is that if it is unpredicable, and unstable, you do not risk the unforseen. If you can't predict it, you can't forsee it. So don't risk it. Go get our people.

But he didn't. Facts are facts on this. And it's the US State Dept reporting it, not me.

See, the State Dept is gonna cover it's ass. They said it was dangerous. They weren't going to go down if Gadhafi or some whacko jihadist blew up that boat the citizens were on. They called it what it was, and Obama made his choice of non-action.

Tell us about your plan for a "rescue mission". Which branch of the military would you send? How would they affect this "rescue"? How many soldiers would be put in harms way so that the people on a ferry in the harbor could get out?

Ok, lets see.......

2 SEAL teams could easily get in and secure the ferry. A unit of Marines could too. They took Tripoli before, remember?

Won't work? Ok. How about a couple of US Navy Combat Crewman units, you know, the boats that escort seals in and out of hostile environments? They'd easily get in and out a few times to rescue the people.

Still not enough?

Well, the Coast Guard, our military's 5th branch, does rescues in Cat 5 hurricanes. One Coast Guard ship, escorted by 2-4 Navy combat crewman crafts, with a small unit of SEALS on board? Thats not a massive military operation, but would've easily gotten in and out with the refugee citizens.

But then again, I may be wrong. After all, I'm not Commander in Chief. Only he could authorize such a thing.

OH MY GOD let it go they are out no one was harmed save the monday mornign quarterback routine for another time. DAMN how can you be this jacked up over a total non-issue. if they had been harmed .. then *****
if someone had been hurt.....then *****
if someone had been kidnapped .... then *****
if someone had been shot ..... then *****
if someone had been stabbed ..... then *****


until then ....................... STOP ACTING LIKE A LITTLE *****

 

[Sunni Man]

Ah, Buc - the ferry was already secured. The people on it were not in harms way.

Obama has once again proven that he is a great Commander-In-Chief and a true Patriotic American.

 

[bucs90]

Tell us about your plan for a "rescue mission". Which branch of the military would you send? How would they affect this "rescue"? How many soldiers would be put in harms way so that the people on a ferry in the harbor could get out?

Ok, lets see.......

2 SEAL teams could easily get in and secure the ferry. A unit of Marines could too. They took Tripoli before, remember?

Ah, Buc - the ferry was already secured. The people on it were not in harms way.

OH!! Well, then, lets just ignore the absurd handling of this by Obama.

They weren't in harms way? Then why were they trying to escape you dumbass????

Thats like saying the bank teller fleeing a bank being robbed was not in harms way! If they are fleeing the country........then they were in harms way.

Unless you consider a tyrant dictator ordering fighter jets to bomb civilians to be a "safe" country to be in?

Liberal logic almost makes my dog cry it's so absurd.

So if a POW in Vietnam eventually escapes, does his escape thus mean he was never in harms way? Does a person who is fleeing a burning building and gets out then say he was never in harms way?

In fact, what if a skyscraper is on fire. It's West side is burning. And a guy is stranded on the 50th floor of the East side. He is trying to rig a parachute but having trouble. The fire dept ladder simply waits and does nothing. He eventually gets the parachute rigged, jumps, and is safe.

Would you then say "The fire hadn't gotten to him yet, and he made it out ok. So there is no reason to criticize the fire department."

See? Your left wing logic ONLY makes sense to youwhen defending Obama! That logic applied to all other areas of life seems absurd.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Tell us about your plan for a "rescue mission". Which branch of the military would you send? How would they affect this "rescue"? How many soldiers would be put in harms way so that the people on a ferry in the harbor could get out?

Ok, lets see.......

2 SEAL teams could easily get in and secure the ferry. A unit of Marines could too. They took Tripoli before, remember?

Won't work? Ok. How about a couple of US Navy Combat Crewman units, you know, the boats that escort seals in and out of hostile environments? They'd easily get in and out a few times to rescue the people.

Still not enough?

Well, the Coast Guard, our military's 5th branch, does rescues in Cat 5 hurricanes. One Coast Guard ship, escorted by 2-4 Navy combat crewman crafts, with a small unit of SEALS on board? Thats not a massive military operation, but would've easily gotten in and out with the refugee citizens.

But then again, I may be wrong. After all, I'm not Commander in Chief. Only he could authorize such a thing.

OH MY GOD let it go they are out no one was harmed save the monday mornign quarterback routine for another time. DAMN how can you be this jacked up over a total non-issue. if they had been harmed .. then *****
if someone had been hurt.....then *****
if someone had been kidnapped .... then *****
if someone had been shot ..... then *****
if someone had been stabbed ..... then *****


until then ....................... STOP ACTING LIKE A LITTLE *****

Speaking of little bitches...

 

[The Infidel]

Ok, lets see.......

2 SEAL teams could easily get in and secure the ferry. A unit of Marines could too. They took Tripoli before, remember?

Won't work? Ok. How about a couple of US Navy Combat Crewman units, you know, the boats that escort seals in and out of hostile environments? They'd easily get in and out a few times to rescue the people.

Still not enough?

Well, the Coast Guard, our military's 5th branch, does rescues in Cat 5 hurricanes. One Coast Guard ship, escorted by 2-4 Navy combat crewman crafts, with a small unit of SEALS on board? Thats not a massive military operation, but would've easily gotten in and out with the refugee citizens.

But then again, I may be wrong. After all, I'm not Commander in Chief. Only he could authorize such a thing.

OH MY GOD let it go they are out no one was harmed save the monday mornign quarterback routine for another time. DAMN how can you be this jacked up over a total non-issue. if they had been harmed .. then *****
if someone had been hurt.....then *****
if someone had been kidnapped .... then *****
if someone had been shot ..... then *****
if someone had been stabbed ..... then *****


until then ....................... STOP ACTING LIKE A LITTLE *****

Speaking of little bitches...

 

[bucs90]

Tell us about your plan for a "rescue mission". Which branch of the military would you send? How would they affect this "rescue"? How many soldiers would be put in harms way so that the people on a ferry in the harbor could get out?

Ok, lets see.......

2 SEAL teams could easily get in and secure the ferry. A unit of Marines could too. They took Tripoli before, remember?

Won't work? Ok. How about a couple of US Navy Combat Crewman units, you know, the boats that escort seals in and out of hostile environments? They'd easily get in and out a few times to rescue the people.

Still not enough?

Well, the Coast Guard, our military's 5th branch, does rescues in Cat 5 hurricanes. One Coast Guard ship, escorted by 2-4 Navy combat crewman crafts, with a small unit of SEALS on board? Thats not a massive military operation, but would've easily gotten in and out with the refugee citizens.

But then again, I may be wrong. After all, I'm not Commander in Chief. Only he could authorize such a thing.

OH MY GOD let it go they are out no one was harmed save the monday mornign quarterback routine for another time. DAMN how can you be this jacked up over a total non-issue. if they had been harmed .. then *****
if someone had been hurt.....then *****
if someone had been kidnapped .... then *****
if someone had been shot ..... then *****
if someone had been stabbed ..... then *****


until then ....................... STOP ACTING LIKE A LITTLE *****

I bet you'd love us to ignore yet another Obama **** up. But I will not.

So thats your standard for operation? As long as the end result comes out all happy smiley, then there is no reason to critique the response?

So if a building is burning, and citizens are inside, but the fire dept ignores it.........and everyone gets out anyway, unharmed, then there is no reason to knock the Fire Dept?

If a guy is in a school shooting it up, and one classroom on the opposite side of the school is begging for police to help get them out, and the cops don't come, but that class gets out safe anyway, is it safe to say the cops shouldn't be criticized?

What if the ferry did get bombed? Then what? The State Dept said it was unstable and unpredictable.

So THAT is your standard for operation? Just sit back, cross your fingers, and if it works itself out, then GOOD nothing to comment on?

Thats bullshit. Obama left them hanging and you know it. You just refuse to allow your savior to be criticized.

 

[MichIndy]

i will skip the semantics and ask you to define "ties", but here is the thing Jarhead. Every President since Washington has had "ties" with people you would characterize as anything from unseemly to even criminal. No one ever goes through a life of politics and has not been caught shaking hands with the wrong person or "associating" with people of the wrong ilk. They have all talked with bad businessmen, religious leaders, fraudulent politicians, radical thinkers at one time in their lives. They do not exhist in a bubble. it is what they do while in office that matters.
I will bet my house that Obama has not made contact with any of the people you mentioned above. Not a call, not a meeting, not an appearance, not even a text. Those "ties" do not exhist now. It is past tense. All that shit is past tense, but it is people like you that can't let it go cuz you are still pissed the guy got into office.
Bitching about it now does not help
Claiming it is influencing now is untrue
Whining about who is associated with who from the past does not effect the present.

It is one thing shaking hands with someone.
It is one thing meeting so many after a lifetime in politics....not 4 years...and only 1 1/2 on the national scene

It is another thing appointing a once admitted communist to a WH post.
It is another thing to conduct a business deal that makes absolutely no sense and smells so much of wrongdoing that the feds investigate and indict the guy
It is another thing to NOT denounce the actions fo a religion hater that you have had a relationship with...especially when you are POTUS of ALL religions.
It is another thing to have 3 diufferent scenarios regarding a radical activst and your realtionship with him.
It is anotrher thing to have 20 year relationship with a man like Wright.

I am sorry......but I find it sad how all of you that support the man refuse to see how many "undesireable" people this politician has become to know in such a short period of time in politics.

How many convicts have you conducted business with?
How many once admitted communists do you seek to hire?
How many people have you hired who openly admit that they admire Mao?
How many people do you know that have been affiliated with a group that bombed police stations?
How many people do you know that wrote a book and on the cover has them standing on the American Flag?

And....

You did not run for President.

Just saying.

These lefties still are in denial about the FACT that Obama's past associations would prevent him from passing the basic background screening done by every police department in America.

How ironic? Obama wouldnt' have qualified to serve on the Wasilla Police Dept under Mayor Palin

They can't grasp that. In part because of their simple worship of him. In other part of their inability to grasp the concept that there are still organizations out there that value integrity and patriotism (police, military, fire) that would exclude a person with far left communist associations. But it's all true.

You are kidding me with this right???? he could not pass a background screening based on his past associations????
NO its not true you dunce !!!
and right now it is not about left or right ..... it is about common sense

 

[8537]

Ok, lets see.......

2 SEAL teams could easily get in and secure the ferry. A unit of Marines could too. They took Tripoli before, remember?

Ah, Buc - the ferry was already secured. The people on it were not in harms way.

OH!! Well, then, lets just ignore the absurd handling of this by Obama.

They weren't in harms way? Then why were they trying to escape you dumbass????

Because they didn't want to spend their remaining days on earth in a ferry near Tripoli. That would be obvious to most people.

 

[bucs90]

Final question to libs.....if 2 days ago you found out your mother or daughter was on that boat, stranded, and Obama wouldn't order a rescue, would you be OK with the idea that we are just gonna wait it out and hope they make it out on their own?

While Gadhafi was ordering jets to bomb civilians and the State Dept said it was an unstable and unpredictable situation?

 

[Jarhead]

It is one thing shaking hands with someone.
It is one thing meeting so many after a lifetime in politics....not 4 years...and only 1 1/2 on the national scene

It is another thing appointing a once admitted communist to a WH post.
It is another thing to conduct a business deal that makes absolutely no sense and smells so much of wrongdoing that the feds investigate and indict the guy
It is another thing to NOT denounce the actions fo a religion hater that you have had a relationship with...especially when you are POTUS of ALL religions.
It is another thing to have 3 diufferent scenarios regarding a radical activst and your realtionship with him.
It is anotrher thing to have 20 year relationship with a man like Wright.

I am sorry......but I find it sad how all of you that support the man refuse to see how many "undesireable" people this politician has become to know in such a short period of time in politics.

How many convicts have you conducted business with?
How many once admitted communists do you seek to hire?
How many people have you hired who openly admit that they admire Mao?
How many people do you know that have been affiliated with a group that bombed police stations?
How many people do you know that wrote a book and on the cover has them standing on the American Flag?

And....

You did not run for President.

Just saying.

These lefties still are in denial about the FACT that Obama's past associations would prevent him from passing the basic background screening done by every police department in America.

How ironic? Obama wouldnt' have qualified to serve on the Wasilla Police Dept under Mayor Palin

They can't grasp that. In part because of their simple worship of him. In other part of their inability to grasp the concept that there are still organizations out there that value integrity and patriotism (police, military, fire) that would exclude a person with far left communist associations. But it's all true.

You are kidding me with this right???? he could not pass a background screening based on his past associations????
NO its not true you dunce !!!
and right now it is not about left or right ..... it is about common sense

Just an FYI....Barak Obama would NOT pass clearance to be a body guard for President Obama.
And if you know anything about "security clearance"...it is ALL about past and present associations.

 

[8537]

You are kidding me with this right????

Unfortunately, it appears that Buc is not kidding. I used to presume he was a liberal plant, sent by DKos to make conservatives look really, really, really f'in stupid. But it seems I was wrong.

 

[Jarhead]

Ah, Buc - the ferry was already secured. The people on it were not in harms way.

OH!! Well, then, lets just ignore the absurd handling of this by Obama.

They weren't in harms way? Then why were they trying to escape you dumbass????

Because they didn't want to spend their remaining days on earth in a ferry near Tripoli. That would be obvious to most people.

NO...the question was...why were they fleeing Lybia?

 

[8537]

OH!! Well, then, lets just ignore the absurd handling of this by Obama.

They weren't in harms way? Then why were they trying to escape you dumbass????

Because they didn't want to spend their remaining days on earth in a ferry near Tripoli. That would be obvious to most people.

NO...the question was...why were they fleeing Lybia?

I think we all know why they were fleeing Libya: There's a civil war going on there.

The ferry was not in harm's way.

 

[bucs90]

It is one thing shaking hands with someone.
It is one thing meeting so many after a lifetime in politics....not 4 years...and only 1 1/2 on the national scene

It is another thing appointing a once admitted communist to a WH post.
It is another thing to conduct a business deal that makes absolutely no sense and smells so much of wrongdoing that the feds investigate and indict the guy
It is another thing to NOT denounce the actions fo a religion hater that you have had a relationship with...especially when you are POTUS of ALL religions.
It is another thing to have 3 diufferent scenarios regarding a radical activst and your realtionship with him.
It is anotrher thing to have 20 year relationship with a man like Wright.

I am sorry......but I find it sad how all of you that support the man refuse to see how many "undesireable" people this politician has become to know in such a short period of time in politics.

How many convicts have you conducted business with?
How many once admitted communists do you seek to hire?
How many people have you hired who openly admit that they admire Mao?
How many people do you know that have been affiliated with a group that bombed police stations?
How many people do you know that wrote a book and on the cover has them standing on the American Flag?

And....

You did not run for President.

Just saying.

These lefties still are in denial about the FACT that Obama's past associations would prevent him from passing the basic background screening done by every police department in America.

How ironic? Obama wouldnt' have qualified to serve on the Wasilla Police Dept under Mayor Palin

They can't grasp that. In part because of their simple worship of him. In other part of their inability to grasp the concept that there are still organizations out there that value integrity and patriotism (police, military, fire) that would exclude a person with far left communist associations. But it's all true.

You are kidding me with this right???? he could not pass a background screening based on his past associations????
NO its not true you dunce !!!
and right now it is not about left or right ..... it is about common sense

NO I am not.

EVERY SINGLE law enforcement agency in America, from the FBI all the way down to the Wasilla police, has the same background screening.

And included in it reads:

"Have you ever associated with anyone or any group that states as it's intent to overthrow the United Stated federal government, or with anyone who is or has been part of the Communist Party?"

Obama answers yes: Bill Ayers (Weather Underground) and Van Jones (self admitted Communist).

It also asks if you have ever used any illegal drug other than marijuana? Obama's cocaine use is admitted.

Before you rant "BUT HE"S PRESIDENT" let me add that president has no arrest powers. He is not law enforcement. To be president you must be a US citizen and over 35 years old. Thats it.

But to be a law enforcement officer, you must pass an extensive screening. Obama would not pass it. That is absolute fact, not opinion. For that matter, Bush's drug use likely would have excluded him also. But the associations with Ayers and Van Jones would be absolute DQ's.

We should have higher standards for president.