Impossible Chicago has strict gun laws.
and their murder rate is much lower than very pro- gun St Louis Mo
it's over 50% lower
even with gun laws that are not federal
And according to you, that means that normal, law abiding gun owners are going out and murdering people...right?
No, the truth is you know the answer...the democrats who have run St. Louis continuosly since 1949 are allowing gun offenders out of prison with a policy of revolving door justice.....which not what you see in New York where Rudy Guilliani, the republican, locked up violent gun offenders...
Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia
When you have criminals with guns getting out of jail over and over again they are the ones causing the gun murder rate....not law abiding gun owners...
Lock up the actual criminals and you actually lower the crime rate......it is just that simple.....
Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why
Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.
At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.
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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
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When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.
In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.
Violence down in St. Louis but homicides hold steady. Are tougher penalties for gun crimes the answer?
But many challenges remain, official said. The department is still down more than 130 officers. Witnesses to crimes remain reluctant to come forward for fear of retaliation, making it difficult to close cases. And a lack of state laws to deter gun crimes has forced the police to turn to federal courts to indict some suspects.
On Tuesday, Edwards made a new pitch: He wants to see the mandatory minimum sentence for armed criminal action raised from its current ceiling of three years to at least 15 years for nonfatal shootings, and 25 years for fatal shootings.