Boycott Israel

[Mindful]

It has been well over a month since the antisemitic Mapping Project was first publicized. And we still do not really know is truly behind it. True, many different groups, such as BDS Boston, have promoted it, but have claimed they did not create it. The question remains: who did?

One moment, please...

www.israellycool.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

It has been well over a month since the antisemitic Mapping Project was first publicized. And we still do not really know is truly behind it. True, many different groups, such as BDS Boston, have promoted it, but have claimed they did not create it. The question remains: who did?

One moment, please...

www.israellycool.com

And what difference does it make? What does it matter who made it?

 

[Sixties Fan]

And what difference does it make? What does it matter who made it?

Would you say the same if they were mapping Christians or Muslims? To incite against them, to harm them, to attack them?

 

[Mindful]

And what difference does it make? What does it matter who made it?

Why ask me?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Would you say the same if they were mapping Christians or Muslims? To incite against them, to harm them, to attack them?

Like Canary Mission?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Like Canary Mission?

Get serious !!!

Ooops, the impossible thing for you.

 

[rylah]

And what difference does it make? What does it matter who made it?

Shows who's interests you serve.

 

[rylah]

Like Canary Mission?

When did the Canary Mission
map Police departments and Mosques
as targets calling for "any means necessary"?

 

[P F Tinmore]

When did the Canary Mission
map Police departments and Mosques
as targets calling for "any means necessary"?

So they don't target "Jews" they target anyone who supports Israel.

That's good to know.

 

[Sixties Fan]

So they don't target "Jews" they target anyone who supports Israel.

That's good to know.

They make no distinction as to who supports Israel and who does not.
Are they going to target Christians, Muslims, Hindu, Buddhists, etc who do support Israel? They are not.

It is targeting Jews only.

You know nothing.

 

[P F Tinmore]

They make no distinction as to who supports Israel and who does not.
Are they going to target Christians, Muslims, Hindu, Buddhists, etc who do support Israel? They are not.

It is targeting Jews only.

You know nothing.

You need to read up.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You need to read up.

Well, give me a link and I will, oh wise one.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Well, give me a link and I will, oh wise one.

The Mapping Project

mapliberation.org

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Mapping Project

mapliberation.org

Is it going to show that Christian, Muslim, etc were also being mapped? Or only Jewish places?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Is it going to show that Christian, Muslim, etc were also being mapped? Or only Jewish places?

 

[Sixties Fan]

You gave a totally different kind of mapping.

None of them target a group because of their religion, to let haters know where to find them and where they can go attack them.

Phew, indeed.

It is really hard being a Tinmore.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You gave a totally different kind of mapping.

None of them target a group because of their religion, to let haters know where to find them and where they can go attack them.

Phew, indeed.

It is really hard being a Tinmore.

None of them target a group because of their religion,

Indeed, irrelevant.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Indeed, irrelevant.

Totally dishonest of you. As always.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Illegitimate criticism of Israel​

The declaration also touched on the intersection of antisemitism and anti-Zionism. The determinations of what is legitimate criticism of Israel and what is antisemitism has been at the forefront of debates about the competing definitions of antisemitism. The definition of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA), which was adopted by the Knesset on June 22, contends that some criticisms of Israel cross into the realm of antisemitism, in line with the text of the US-Israel declaration. Some competing definitions of antisemitism do not see criticism of Israel as antisemitism.


"The two countries will use the tools at their disposal to fight every scourge and source of antisemitism and to respond whenever legitimate criticism crosses over into bigotry and hatred or attempts to undermine Israel’s rightful and legitimate place among the family of nations," read the declaration. "In this context, they express their deep concern over the global surge in antisemitism and reassert their commitment to counter this ancient hatred in all of its manifestations. "

(full article online)

US will 'reject BDS,' fight unfair treatment of Israel

"The United States and Israel affirm that they will continue to work together to combat all efforts to boycott or delegitimize Israel," read the declaration signed Thursday.

www.jpost.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

So, what are the lessons for everybody else?

First, be aware of what Goldberg calls “the hidden BDS campaign.” Much of BDS is open and explicit, but its influence in the ESG realm has not been.

Second, Marc Stern, chief legal officer at the American Jewish Committee, observes that sources matter: “Take slanted information and take it at face value, you’ll come out with slanted evaluations.” Investors should ask what sources an ESG rating provider is using. As is now clear, hidden assumptions built into corporate ratings may not be so neutral.

Third, Stern notes, “Social justice is not self-defining. If you ask people to have more social justice considerations in running companies, they should lay out clearly what that means and how they’ll deal with situations of conflicting views of social justice.” This particularly matters now, as “the SEC [U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission] has rules out to encourage more ESG disclosure.”

Fourth, Goldberg recommends that anyone concerned about these developments “ask your state treasurer and attorney general to raise these issues. Ask your member of Congress to raise the issue with the SEC, and make sure your state legislators and governors are enforcing the state’s anti-BDS laws where they exist.”

Fifth, with ESG’s rising popularity, Stern believes that when organizations like Human Rights Watch issue full-length reports on Israel, dissenters should “rebut them point by point; have something to go to pension funds with.”

Finally, Goldberg advises states with relevant anti-BDS laws and pension funds beyond Illinois to investigate whether they have unwittingly divested from Israel. Relatedly, Goldberg suggests state treasurers “ask [firms] upfront, ask them who their sources are, because they’re asking for a lot of your money.”

ESG offers investors an opportunity to feel like they’re doing good in the world, but there can clearly be a gap between theory and practice. Let the investor beware.

(full article online )

The Hidden Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions Campaign

What happens when the firms handling environmental, social, and governance ratings are themselves biased?

thedispatch.com