Both sad and ridiculous

Unless you have a reason beyond your control to be out of your voting area, or unavailable on Election Day, NOBODY should ever be allowed to vote by mail.

if you don’t have the ability to find a way to the polling place, you shouldn’t be voting.
That's called supression.
It's the only way the minority republicans have a chance.

So you're saying that expecting people to locate and go to a polling place is too hard for Democrat voters? You're saying your voters are too pig-stupid to handle such a "complicated" procedure as Googling?

Sorry, but I think anyone in this Internet age who can't find out where their polling place is has no business voting.
 
This is why you can never put liberals and common sense in the same sentence
Common sense is free and fair elections.
Unless you're in the minority party of course.

Common sense is ignoring any comment from a leftist that uses the phrase "common sense", because it will be uncommonly senseless. Same goes for any leftist use of the word "fair"; that's a clear signal that whatever they want is designed to be as partisan as possible.
 
Unless you have a reason beyond your control to be out of your voting area, or unavailable on Election Day, NOBODY should ever be allowed to vote by mail.

if you don’t have the ability to find a way to the polling place, you shouldn’t be voting.
That's called supression.
It's the only way the minority republicans have a chance.

People have been going to the pols for decades how is it all of a sudden suppression? You people are morons.

. . . And that would be how it's suddenly "suppression". The left has finally dumbed down their voter base too far.
 
How the tin foil hats are trying to make people think mail-voting is ramp with fraud..Explainer: Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it

"Ramp with fraud"? What the fuck does that MEAN? Is English not your first language?
Feds ramp up for coronavirus fraud - News - The Pueblo ...
www.chieftain.com › news › feds-ramp-up-for-coronav...

Now do you understand cecilie?
Mar 21, 2020 - DENVER — Federal authorities announced on Saturday they would investigate and prosecute perpetrators of fraud stemming from the ...

Oh, I already understood. What I understood was that your butt-buddy misused the phrase because he doesn't understand English very well. Now I understand that you're as language-impaired as he is, and stupid enough to try to play at condescension based on your ignorance of English.

"Ramp up for" is the correct phrase. "Ramp with" is a meaningless malapropism (Go look it up, fool, right after you look up "ramp up for").

Way to make a fool of yourself while thinking you're sounding smart.
You read my cut and paste I stand by it and you? You're a cunning linguist
 
Voting by mail works. Just ask any military member who is deployed overseas.

Better check with USPS, they informed 46 states they can't guarantee ballots will be arrived on time.

USPS: Blockbuster Video in the Netflix era.
Better check with USPS, they informed 46 states they can't guarantee ballots will be arrived on time.
Yes....by design.
It is the postmaster general who is monkey wrenching the USPS.

No, by basic function. The Postmaster General isn't "monkey wrenching" anything. You're just so fucking clueless that you learn about a problem years after it's common knowledge, and you think it just developed in the moment your ignorant ass found out about it.

How long does it take the USPS to deliver a letter on average, from the moment they pick it up to the moment they put it in the destination box? Do you even know? Do you know if that average delivery time increases during periods of high postal usage, such as tax season or Christmas? Do you know when that average delivery time became standard practice? No? Do you know what postmarks have to do with mailed ballots?

Do you actually know a damned thing about the facts behind the conspiracy theory your thought masters told you to believe this week?
 
Unless you have a reason beyond your control to be out of your voting area, or unavailable on Election Day, NOBODY should ever be allowed to vote by mail.

if you don’t have the ability to find a way to the polling place, you shouldn’t be voting.
That's called supression.
It's the only way the minority republicans have a chance.

People have been going to the pols for decades how is it all of a sudden suppression? You people are morons.
People have been going to the pols for decades how is it all of a sudden suppression? You people are morons.
Never during a particularly nasty pandemic, dope.
It's supression when alternatives are taken off the table.
NOBODY should ever be allowed to vote by mail.

No alternatives were taken off the table. You have had the same alternatives as always. What you want is for new alternatives to be added, regardless of whether or not they will actually allow the election to function correctly. And we know this, because you are supporting a party that has, in the past, considered it "voter suppression" to try to keep people WHO AREN'T CITIZENS from voting.
 
Voting by mail works. Just ask any military member who is deployed overseas.

Better check with USPS, they informed 46 states they can't guarantee ballots will be arrived on time.

USPS: Blockbuster Video in the Netflix era.
Better check with USPS, they informed 46 states they can't guarantee ballots will be arrived on time.
Yes....by design.
It is the postmaster general who is monkey wrenching the USPS.

Because the USPS has been a well oiled machine until now.
Because the USPS has been a well oiled machine until now
Obviously the "machine" needed monkey wrenching to get their desired result otherwise they wouldn't need to do it, dope.

Obviously, you're screeching about "monkey wrenching" a system you know jack shit about the function of in the first place. "OMG, this is happening, and I'm just SURE it started happening yesterday when my stupid ass found out about it!"
 
How the tin foil hats are trying to make people think mail-voting is ramp with fraud..Explainer: Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it

I am fine with mail in voting provided that the only votes that get counted are from ballots requested by registered and validated voters. I am not okay with counting ballots that are mailed out to voter lists. Simply stated, we go 100 percent absentee model.

Of course, that's still likely to leave millions of voters disenfranchised.
 
Unless you have a reason beyond your control to be out of your voting area, or unavailable on Election Day, NOBODY should ever be allowed to vote by mail.

if you don’t have the ability to find a way to the polling place, you shouldn’t be voting.
That's called supression.
It's the only way the minority republicans have a chance.

People have been going to the pols for decades how is it all of a sudden suppression? You people are morons.
People have been going to the pols for decades how is it all of a sudden suppression? You people are morons.
Never during a particularly nasty pandemic, dope.
It's supression when alternatives are taken off the table.
NOBODY should ever be allowed to vote by mail.

People go to the grocery store, liquor store ect. They riot and protest. Go to work. But they cant go and vote because PANDEMIC! You dope.
People go to the grocery store, liquor store ect. They riot and protest. Go to work. But they cant go and vote because PANDEMIC! You dope
We know you're in the minority party and can only win by keeping voters away from the polls.

We know YOU'RE in the minority party and can only win by inventing fake votes.
 
How the tin foil hats are trying to make people think mail-voting is ramp with fraud..Explainer: Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it

"Ramp with fraud"? What the fuck does that MEAN? Is English not your first language?
Feds ramp up for coronavirus fraud - News - The Pueblo ...
www.chieftain.com › news › feds-ramp-up-for-coronav...

Now do you understand cecilie?
Mar 21, 2020 - DENVER — Federal authorities announced on Saturday they would investigate and prosecute perpetrators of fraud stemming from the ...

Oh, I already understood. What I understood was that your butt-buddy misused the phrase because he doesn't understand English very well. Now I understand that you're as language-impaired as he is, and stupid enough to try to play at condescension based on your ignorance of English.

"Ramp up for" is the correct phrase. "Ramp with" is a meaningless malapropism (Go look it up, fool, right after you look up "ramp up for").

Way to make a fool of yourself while thinking you're sounding smart.
You read my cut and paste I stand by it and you? You're a cunning linguist

"I said something stupid, and I stand by my stupidity." Well, at least you've made your peace with being a fool.
 
How the tin foil hats are trying to make people think mail-voting is ramp with fraud..Explainer: Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it


What's even funnier than your troll thread here, is that you rely on another leftest columnist who is also little more than an anti administration hack, to say that there's nothing to see here in terms of mail in ballots, when we all know when liberals say 'nothing to see here' that really means that there IS lots to see but they don't want you poking around to find it.

"There's nothing to see here . . . that we want you to see."
 
How the tin foil hats are trying to make people think mail-voting is ramp with fraud..Explainer: Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it
Idiot, the post office cannot get a letter mailed from Virginia on fathers day to Texas, and you imbeciles think they can handle a deluge of ballots? I'd say you are either a lying commie troll or a 64 IQ mo.

Anyone who has ever tried to mail in their tax return the week before April 15, or ship Christmas presents the entire month of December, knows that the USPS slows WAAAAAY down during increased usage periods, and their average delivery time was three days to start with.
 
That's called supression.
It's the only way the minority republicans have a chance.

That’s called expecting people to make a minimal investment to support their Right to Vote.
That’s called expecting people to make a minimal investment to support their Right to Vote.
There's no such requirement for citizens to vote.

"How DARE you think I should have any responsibility? Citizenship is all about being pampered and coddled and having things done for me!"
 
A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong.
No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong
LOL...
No you don't. You imagine they are and that any inaccuracies result in fraud and that fraud is perpetrated by and for the benefit of Dems only.

You have nothing but dopey suppositions and paranoid delusions.
We have already seen the disaster that mail in voting can be. It has been tried and failed. There was even a news crew that tried it with fake ballots. In one instance 3% were lost in the mail, even though the news crew mailed them. In another instance almost all disappeared.
those wanting mail in voting obviously have never dealt with the post office or have a plan to cheat. Nothing like having votes disappear or having six ballots shoved into one mail box.
six ballots shoved into one mail box.
if those 6 ballots all had the same address then thats where they go...
Yeah right. In a single family apartment with only two people living there. Damn do you ever stop? You do realize that people move right or don’t they explain thing like that in Beijing?
well then the carrier will forward the ones who dont live there....dont you ever stop with your bullshit?...try making up more scenarios you are good at it....
So where does he forward them to if no forwarding address or they have died Kreskin?
they get returned to sender with an explanation .....you live here and i have to explain that to you?...geezus....
So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there? They know that any ballot that is addressed to a certain address is only for those at that address? When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman. So If that person decides to fill out that ballot that is ok with you right? If the post office does not get your vote in in time to be counted that is fine with you? If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that? If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?
So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there?
not every employee....the carrier of that route.....i knew every name on my route and if it was one i wasnt sure of, i put a question mark on it and let them tell me,if they didnt know they usually wrote "not here" on it and it would be returned to sender unknown.....
When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman.
with political mail like ballots,federal law says if you are not sure you have to attempt delivery,which i described above.....if the person does what you think everyone does with mail that is not theirs that isnt on me, i did what i am obligated to do, i attempted it.....its up to the register of voters to keep up with their voter rolls....not the PO....
If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that?
lol....it dont work that way.....you think this is like that guy on cheers?...we could not just say "im done for today i will do the rest of the route tomorrow."..when you are done with the route is when you come back to the office....if for some reason you cant get done,like a vehical break down,they will send carriers out to help you get it done......
If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?
if your ballot got lost it wasnt because of me,if i have it when i leave the office you will get it that day.....but if it isnt in my hands i have no control over it....once i deliver it i did my part....
So you think no one has every delivered mail to a wrong address? I have gotten mail many times in my box that was for someone that I have never heard of, for someone three blocks over.
So you have no problem if someone fills out two, three or more ballots?
So here is just one of many Postal carrier hoarded 40,000 pieces of undelivered mail
but it never happens right?
I take it you have never worked behind the counter at a post office nor have you ever had a letter or package mysteriously go missing from the time it is mailed by the time it is supposed to be delivered.
]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.
If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.
You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.
You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same
LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?
For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.
For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.
A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.
no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded.
no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded
Like I said. It's in your imagimation.
yeah in my imagination, that’s why it is written about by news organizations and shown in the news. Millions of mail-in ballots went missing in 2018: Report

yeah in my imagination
Yes. In your imagination.
Your "report" didn't identify a single instance of fraud.
So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher
So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher
LOL...
You just admitted and documented there is no fraud of consequence. Good job, loser.
I take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.
take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

Even a number 10x what you posted would be inconsequential.

You still have nothing.
Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.
How can any repub talk about cheating when Trump is a world class cheat ,,,and liar as well

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There's no such requirement for citizens to vote.

You’re right. The fact that the authors of the Constitution failed to include the Duties and Responsibilities of a Citizen along with the Rights was just one failing of the document.

I think they just couldn't fathom the notion that we'd become such a lazy and spoiled population that we would need to be told that stuff.

Frankly, I can't believe Hutch is such a loser that he requires Constitutional affirmation of something common sense would tell any person who actually moves from their couch on a regular basis: doing things requires that you actually DO them. Buying groceries requires that you actually do the shopping. Watching TV requires that you actually turn the TV on. Voting requires that you actually cast the ballot. It's not even a "responsibility of the citizen" kinda thing. It's just an obvious, everyday logic thing.
 
There's no such requirement for citizens to vote.

You’re right. The fact that the authors of the Constitution failed to include the Duties and Responsibilities of a Citizen along with the Rights was just one failing of the document.
You’re right. The fact that the authors of the Constitution failed to include the Duties and Responsibilities of a Citizen along with the Rights was just one failing of the document.
The only duty associated with voting is the duty of the government to provide for free and fair elections.

I hear you saying, "I take no responsibility for myself or to anyone else unless you write a law that MAKES me!"
 
Take responsibility Put the orange moron in jail
1. 18 U.S. Code § 1701. Obstruction of mails generally
Whoever knowingly and willfully obstructs or retards the passage of the mail, or any carrier or conveyance carrying the mail, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both. ~~18 U.S. Code § 1701 - Obstruction of mails generally ~~

2. 18 U.S. Code § 1703. Delay or destruction of mail or newspapers
(a) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, unlawfully secretes, destroys, detains, delays, or opens any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail entrusted to him or which shall come into his possession, and which was intended to be conveyed by mail, or carried or delivered by any carrier or other employee of the Postal Service, or forwarded through or delivered from any post office or station thereof established by authority of the Postmaster General or the Postal Service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
(b) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, improperly detains, delays, or destroys any newspaper, or permits any other person to detain, delay, or destroy the same, or opens, or permits any other person to open, any mail or package of newspapers not directed to the office where he is employed; or
Whoever, without authority, opens, or destroys any mail or package of newspapers not directed to him, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. ~~ 18 U.S. Code § 1703 - Delay or destruction of mail or newspapers ~~


3. 18 U.S. Code § 595. Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

This section shall not prohibit or make unlawful any act by any officer or employee of any educational or research institution, establishment, agency, or system which is supported in whole or in part by any state or political subdivision thereof, or by the District of Columbia or by any Territory or Possession of the United States; or by any recognized religious, philanthropic or cultural organization. ~~ 18 U.S. Code § 595 - Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments ~~


These three sections of the US Code pretty much cover Dejoy's and the Orange Slime Ball's tampering and delaying of the mail in their toying and abject disregard of the law.

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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken, 1920 — We have finally arrived a 100 years later!

"AMONG the numerous advantages promised by a well constructed Union, none deserves to be more accurately developed than its tendency to break and control the violence of faction."
~~ James Madison, Federalist #10, Nov 23, 1787 ~~
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If vote by mail works, I am all for it, though I personally will be early voting for Biden as soon as it starts.

My ancestors killed and died to help create the right for us to vote. Unless there is an extreme reason you can’t get to a polling place, get off your ass and do it... and I do mean extreme.
I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

"Polling places done away with by Republicans". And those would be?

You're welcome to vote like "Donny himself". Request an absentee ballot, and stop wasting everyone's time trying to pretend your ignorant inability to tell the difference between that and blindly mailing ballots en masse is somehow an argument. "We have to fundamentally change elections to accommodate what a fucking idiot I am!" How about not?
 
Take responsibility Put the orange moron in jail
1. 18 U.S. Code § 1701. Obstruction of mails generally
Whoever knowingly and willfully obstructs or retards the passage of the mail, or any carrier or conveyance carrying the mail, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both. ~~18 U.S. Code § 1701 - Obstruction of mails generally ~~

2. 18 U.S. Code § 1703. Delay or destruction of mail or newspapers
(a) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, unlawfully secretes, destroys, detains, delays, or opens any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail entrusted to him or which shall come into his possession, and which was intended to be conveyed by mail, or carried or delivered by any carrier or other employee of the Postal Service, or forwarded through or delivered from any post office or station thereof established by authority of the Postmaster General or the Postal Service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
(b) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, improperly detains, delays, or destroys any newspaper, or permits any other person to detain, delay, or destroy the same, or opens, or permits any other person to open, any mail or package of newspapers not directed to the office where he is employed; or
Whoever, without authority, opens, or destroys any mail or package of newspapers not directed to him, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. ~~ 18 U.S. Code § 1703 - Delay or destruction of mail or newspapers ~~


3. 18 U.S. Code § 595. Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

This section shall not prohibit or make unlawful any act by any officer or employee of any educational or research institution, establishment, agency, or system which is supported in whole or in part by any state or political subdivision thereof, or by the District of Columbia or by any Territory or Possession of the United States; or by any recognized religious, philanthropic or cultural organization. ~~ 18 U.S. Code § 595 - Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments ~~


These three sections of the US Code pretty much cover Dejoy's and the Orange Slime Ball's tampering and delaying of the mail in their toying and abject disregard of the law.

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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken, 1920 — We have finally arrived a 100 years later!

"AMONG the numerous advantages promised by a well constructed Union, none deserves to be more accurately developed than its tendency to break and control the violence of faction."
~~ James Madison, Federalist #10, Nov 23, 1787 ~~
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"Look at all these laws that don't have a fucking thing to do with the President's power to set policy, but which my thought masters told me to believe would make me sound smart! What do you mean, I'm blathering nonsense?! My masters TOLD me this was correct, so it MUST be!"
 

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