Both sad and ridiculous

[boilermaker55]

It is so not patriotic to inhibit any US citizen from voting.
How strange that times and methods of voting have changed over the centuries.
Now the non-Americans want to try to restrict voting rights, and make up false accusations about fraud.
Make sure those you know are registered to vote and vote early if they can to vote out the oligarch hopeful tRUMP!

How the tin foil hats are trying to make people think mail-voting is ramp with fraud..Explainer: Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it

 

[Cecilie1200]

How the tin foil hats are trying to make people think mail-voting is ramp with fraud..Explainer: Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it

ramp?

That's what I said, but eddiew confidently told me that it was used correctly, because he cut-and-pasted an example of it being used completely differently.

Eddiew is almost as smart as he is classy. *eye roll*

 

[eddiew]

Take responsibility Put the orange moron in jail
1. 18 U.S. Code § 1701. Obstruction of mails generally
Whoever knowingly and willfully obstructs or retards the passage of the mail, or any carrier or conveyance carrying the mail, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both. ~~18 U.S. Code § 1701 - Obstruction of mails generally ~~

2. 18 U.S. Code § 1703. Delay or destruction of mail or newspapers
(a) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, unlawfully secretes, destroys, detains, delays, or opens any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail entrusted to him or which shall come into his possession, and which was intended to be conveyed by mail, or carried or delivered by any carrier or other employee of the Postal Service, or forwarded through or delivered from any post office or station thereof established by authority of the Postmaster General or the Postal Service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
(b) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, improperly detains, delays, or destroys any newspaper, or permits any other person to detain, delay, or destroy the same, or opens, or permits any other person to open, any mail or package of newspapers not directed to the office where he is employed; or
Whoever, without authority, opens, or destroys any mail or package of newspapers not directed to him, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. ~~ 18 U.S. Code § 1703 - Delay or destruction of mail or newspapers ~~

3. 18 U.S. Code § 595. Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

This section shall not prohibit or make unlawful any act by any officer or employee of any educational or research institution, establishment, agency, or system which is supported in whole or in part by any state or political subdivision thereof, or by the District of Columbia or by any Territory or Possession of the United States; or by any recognized religious, philanthropic or cultural organization. ~~ 18 U.S. Code § 595 - Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments ~~

These three sections of the US Code pretty much cover Dejoy's and the Orange Slime Ball's tampering and delaying of the mail in their toying and abject disregard of the law.

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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken, 1920 — We have finally arrived a 100 years later!

"AMONG the numerous advantages promised by a well constructed Union, none deserves to be more accurately developed than its tendency to break and control the violence of faction."
~~ James Madison, Federalist #10, Nov 23, 1787 ~~
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"Look at all these laws that don't have a fucking thing to do with the President's power to set policy, but which my thought masters told me to believe would make me sound smart! What do you mean, I'm blathering nonsense?! My masters TOLD me this was correct, so it MUST be!"

And your master can defecate on America and you say ""give us another"

 

[Cecilie1200]

Voting by mail works. Just ask any military member who is deployed overseas.

Those are absentee ballots requested by the military member. The ballots don't just show up in your mailbox for your neighbor who moved 13 years ago like some other mail I get! This why you are a libtard!

Exactly.

Let's say, for example, that I was some squishy moderate who just couldn't make up my mind this election, and decided I didn't want to vote. I would therefore likely not bother to update my voter registration to my current address, which has changed since the midterm elections, and definitely since the last Presidential election.

Under the Democrats' "brilliant" scheme, a ballot would nevertheless be mailed out to me at the last address I registered to vote under. God only knows who actually lives there now. Maybe it gets returned as undeliverable; maybe the mail carrier goes ahead and delivers it to that address. Anyone at that address, or at the USPS anywhere along the way, could decide to take that mis-addressed ballot and use it to cast a vote for their preferred candidate. How would I, or anyone else, know the difference?

 

[Cecilie1200]

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

Again, no one is objecting to people requesting absentee ballots the way the President does, and pretending that that's the same as mailing unrequested ballots out willy-nilly is just making you look like the dumbass we already knew you were. So it's a waste of everyone's time.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Take responsibility Put the orange moron in jail
1. 18 U.S. Code § 1701. Obstruction of mails generally
Whoever knowingly and willfully obstructs or retards the passage of the mail, or any carrier or conveyance carrying the mail, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both. ~~18 U.S. Code § 1701 - Obstruction of mails generally ~~

2. 18 U.S. Code § 1703. Delay or destruction of mail or newspapers
(a) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, unlawfully secretes, destroys, detains, delays, or opens any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail entrusted to him or which shall come into his possession, and which was intended to be conveyed by mail, or carried or delivered by any carrier or other employee of the Postal Service, or forwarded through or delivered from any post office or station thereof established by authority of the Postmaster General or the Postal Service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
(b) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, improperly detains, delays, or destroys any newspaper, or permits any other person to detain, delay, or destroy the same, or opens, or permits any other person to open, any mail or package of newspapers not directed to the office where he is employed; or
Whoever, without authority, opens, or destroys any mail or package of newspapers not directed to him, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. ~~ 18 U.S. Code § 1703 - Delay or destruction of mail or newspapers ~~

3. 18 U.S. Code § 595. Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

This section shall not prohibit or make unlawful any act by any officer or employee of any educational or research institution, establishment, agency, or system which is supported in whole or in part by any state or political subdivision thereof, or by the District of Columbia or by any Territory or Possession of the United States; or by any recognized religious, philanthropic or cultural organization. ~~ 18 U.S. Code § 595 - Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments ~~

These three sections of the US Code pretty much cover Dejoy's and the Orange Slime Ball's tampering and delaying of the mail in their toying and abject disregard of the law.

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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken, 1920 — We have finally arrived a 100 years later!

"AMONG the numerous advantages promised by a well constructed Union, none deserves to be more accurately developed than its tendency to break and control the violence of faction."
~~ James Madison, Federalist #10, Nov 23, 1787 ~~
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"Look at all these laws that don't have a fucking thing to do with the President's power to set policy, but which my thought masters told me to believe would make me sound smart! What do you mean, I'm blathering nonsense?! My masters TOLD me this was correct, so it MUST be!"

And your master can defecate on America and you say ""give us another"

I'll take that to mean you have no refutation beyond, "Be ashamed of supporting Trump because I don't like him!"

Thank you for verifying that you did, in fact, just cut-and-paste the talking points you were told would work.

 

[eddiew]

Take responsibility Put the orange moron in jail
1. 18 U.S. Code § 1701. Obstruction of mails generally
Whoever knowingly and willfully obstructs or retards the passage of the mail, or any carrier or conveyance carrying the mail, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both. ~~18 U.S. Code § 1701 - Obstruction of mails generally ~~

2. 18 U.S. Code § 1703. Delay or destruction of mail or newspapers
(a) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, unlawfully secretes, destroys, detains, delays, or opens any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail entrusted to him or which shall come into his possession, and which was intended to be conveyed by mail, or carried or delivered by any carrier or other employee of the Postal Service, or forwarded through or delivered from any post office or station thereof established by authority of the Postmaster General or the Postal Service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
(b) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, improperly detains, delays, or destroys any newspaper, or permits any other person to detain, delay, or destroy the same, or opens, or permits any other person to open, any mail or package of newspapers not directed to the office where he is employed; or
Whoever, without authority, opens, or destroys any mail or package of newspapers not directed to him, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. ~~ 18 U.S. Code § 1703 - Delay or destruction of mail or newspapers ~~

3. 18 U.S. Code § 595. Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

This section shall not prohibit or make unlawful any act by any officer or employee of any educational or research institution, establishment, agency, or system which is supported in whole or in part by any state or political subdivision thereof, or by the District of Columbia or by any Territory or Possession of the United States; or by any recognized religious, philanthropic or cultural organization. ~~ 18 U.S. Code § 595 - Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments ~~

These three sections of the US Code pretty much cover Dejoy's and the Orange Slime Ball's tampering and delaying of the mail in their toying and abject disregard of the law.

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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken, 1920 — We have finally arrived a 100 years later!

"AMONG the numerous advantages promised by a well constructed Union, none deserves to be more accurately developed than its tendency to break and control the violence of faction."
~~ James Madison, Federalist #10, Nov 23, 1787 ~~
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"Look at all these laws that don't have a fucking thing to do with the President's power to set policy, but which my thought masters told me to believe would make me sound smart! What do you mean, I'm blathering nonsense?! My masters TOLD me this was correct, so it MUST be!"

And your master can defecate on America and you say ""give us another"

I'll take that to mean you have no refutation beyond, "Be ashamed of supporting Trump because I don't like him!"

Thank you for verifying that you did, in fact, just cut-and-paste the talking points you were told would work.

LOL nobody told me anything Yes I don't like bullying AH's like trump who thinks he is smarter than Generals Doctors Scientist economists foreign relation experts Seems he's your kind of guy

 

[eddiew]

6 states may take moron to court over mail in ballot clash

 

[Dagosa]

How the tin foil hats are trying to make people think mail-voting is ramp with fraud..Explainer: Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it

Mail fraud is rare. It’s a felony. The right has this crazy idea that in a country where it’s hard to get over 50% of eligible voters to vote anyway, they are going to commit a felony just to vote one more time. Of course NO ONE has ever shown it to be a problem. The biggest problem righty’s have, is legal non whitevoters voters coming out.

 

[Cecilie1200]

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

"LOL Never mind the reams of articles explaining the differences, my masters told me they were the exact same!"

Absentee Ballot vs. Mail-In Ballot: Know The Difference

During this election year, it's become especially important to understand the differences between and confusion around absentee voting and mail-in voting.

www.dictionary.com

Have someone other than your thought masters read it to you and explain.

 

[Cecilie1200]

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

"That's not a difference, because I was told I could believe I was saying smart things, so THERE!"

 

[Hutch Starskey]

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong

LOL...
No you don't. You imagine they are and that any inaccuracies result in fraud and that fraud is perpetrated by and for the benefit of Dems only.

You have nothing but dopey suppositions and paranoid delusions.

We have already seen the disaster that mail in voting can be. It has been tried and failed. There was even a news crew that tried it with fake ballots. In one instance 3% were lost in the mail, even though the news crew mailed them. In another instance almost all disappeared.
those wanting mail in voting obviously have never dealt with the post office or have a plan to cheat. Nothing like having votes disappear or having six ballots shoved into one mail box.

six ballots shoved into one mail box.
if those 6 ballots all had the same address then thats where they go...

Yeah right. In a single family apartment with only two people living there. Damn do you ever stop? You do realize that people move right or don’t they explain thing like that in Beijing?

well then the carrier will forward the ones who dont live there....dont you ever stop with your bullshit?...try making up more scenarios you are good at it....

So where does he forward them to if no forwarding address or they have died Kreskin?

they get returned to sender with an explanation .....you live here and i have to explain that to you?...geezus....

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there? They know that any ballot that is addressed to a certain address is only for those at that address? When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman. So If that person decides to fill out that ballot that is ok with you right? If the post office does not get your vote in in time to be counted that is fine with you? If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that? If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there?
not every employee....the carrier of that route.....i knew every name on my route and if it was one i wasnt sure of, i put a question mark on it and let them tell me,if they didnt know they usually wrote "not here" on it and it would be returned to sender unknown.....
When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman.
with political mail like ballots,federal law says if you are not sure you have to attempt delivery,which i described above.....if the person does what you think everyone does with mail that is not theirs that isnt on me, i did what i am obligated to do, i attempted it.....its up to the register of voters to keep up with their voter rolls....not the PO....
If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that?
lol....it dont work that way.....you think this is like that guy on cheers?...we could not just say "im done for today i will do the rest of the route tomorrow."..when you are done with the route is when you come back to the office....if for some reason you cant get done,like a vehical break down,they will send carriers out to help you get it done......
If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?
if your ballot got lost it wasnt because of me,if i have it when i leave the office you will get it that day.....but if it isnt in my hands i have no control over it....once i deliver it i did my part....

So you think no one has every delivered mail to a wrong address? I have gotten mail many times in my box that was for someone that I have never heard of, for someone three blocks over.
So you have no problem if someone fills out two, three or more ballots?
So here is just one of many Postal carrier hoarded 40,000 pieces of undelivered mail
but it never happens right?
I take it you have never worked behind the counter at a post office nor have you ever had a letter or package mysteriously go missing from the time it is mailed by the time it is supposed to be delivered.

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded

Like I said. It's in your imagimation.

yeah in my imagination, that’s why it is written about by news organizations and shown in the news. Millions of mail-in ballots went missing in 2018: Report

yeah in my imagination

Yes. In your imagination.
Your "report" didn't identify a single instance of fraud.

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

LOL...
You just admitted and documented there is no fraud of consequence. Good job, loser.

I take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

Even a number 10x what you posted would be inconsequential.

You still have nothing.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

I certainly don't see millions of illegals voting illegally.

 

[Cecilie1200]

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

That certainly does not mean fraud will result.

No, human nature means that if there's an easy opportunity for fraud, fraud will result. Only leftists think human beings will magically become perfect creatures if believing it will serve their agenda.

 

[Erinwltr]

How the tin foil hats are trying to make people think mail-voting is ramp with fraud..Explainer: Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it

Idiot, the post office cannot get a letter mailed from Virginia on fathers day to Texas, and you imbeciles think they can handle a deluge of ballots? I'd say you are either a lying commie troll or a 64 IQ mo.

Still a whiney, crybaby, mikey. Prove a letter from VA to TX.

You don't accept proof but my kid mailed it to me on fathers day, no way to prove that and I would not if I could. You vermin deserve what you are begging for.

All you had to do was prove it. A heart tugging comment on USMB doesn't cut it. After all the garbage you have posted here. Just prove it, mikey.
And by the way, I'm not vermin, I'm not begging for a single thing from you and I certainly don't deserve anything from the likes of your weltanchaung.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

That certainly does not mean fraud will result.

No, human nature means that if there's an easy opportunity for fraud, fraud will result. Only leftists think human beings will magically become perfect creatures if believing it will serve their agenda.

No, human nature means that if there's an easy opportunity for fraud, fraud will result. Only leftists think human beings will magically become perfect creatures if believing it will serve their agenda

That exists only within your imagination.
Slowing the mail screws everyone equally.
Regardless of party and regardless of what you call the ballot.

 

[Cecilie1200]

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong

LOL...
No you don't. You imagine they are and that any inaccuracies result in fraud and that fraud is perpetrated by and for the benefit of Dems only.

You have nothing but dopey suppositions and paranoid delusions.

We have already seen the disaster that mail in voting can be. It has been tried and failed. There was even a news crew that tried it with fake ballots. In one instance 3% were lost in the mail, even though the news crew mailed them. In another instance almost all disappeared.
those wanting mail in voting obviously have never dealt with the post office or have a plan to cheat. Nothing like having votes disappear or having six ballots shoved into one mail box.

six ballots shoved into one mail box.
if those 6 ballots all had the same address then thats where they go...

Yeah right. In a single family apartment with only two people living there. Damn do you ever stop? You do realize that people move right or don’t they explain thing like that in Beijing?

well then the carrier will forward the ones who dont live there....dont you ever stop with your bullshit?...try making up more scenarios you are good at it....

So where does he forward them to if no forwarding address or they have died Kreskin?

they get returned to sender with an explanation .....you live here and i have to explain that to you?...geezus....

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there? They know that any ballot that is addressed to a certain address is only for those at that address? When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman. So If that person decides to fill out that ballot that is ok with you right? If the post office does not get your vote in in time to be counted that is fine with you? If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that? If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there?
not every employee....the carrier of that route.....i knew every name on my route and if it was one i wasnt sure of, i put a question mark on it and let them tell me,if they didnt know they usually wrote "not here" on it and it would be returned to sender unknown.....
When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman.
with political mail like ballots,federal law says if you are not sure you have to attempt delivery,which i described above.....if the person does what you think everyone does with mail that is not theirs that isnt on me, i did what i am obligated to do, i attempted it.....its up to the register of voters to keep up with their voter rolls....not the PO....
If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that?
lol....it dont work that way.....you think this is like that guy on cheers?...we could not just say "im done for today i will do the rest of the route tomorrow."..when you are done with the route is when you come back to the office....if for some reason you cant get done,like a vehical break down,they will send carriers out to help you get it done......
If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?
if your ballot got lost it wasnt because of me,if i have it when i leave the office you will get it that day.....but if it isnt in my hands i have no control over it....once i deliver it i did my part....

So you think no one has every delivered mail to a wrong address? I have gotten mail many times in my box that was for someone that I have never heard of, for someone three blocks over.
So you have no problem if someone fills out two, three or more ballots?
So here is just one of many Postal carrier hoarded 40,000 pieces of undelivered mail
but it never happens right?
I take it you have never worked behind the counter at a post office nor have you ever had a letter or package mysteriously go missing from the time it is mailed by the time it is supposed to be delivered.

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded

Like I said. It's in your imagimation.

yeah in my imagination, that’s why it is written about by news organizations and shown in the news. Millions of mail-in ballots went missing in 2018: Report

yeah in my imagination

Yes. In your imagination.
Your "report" didn't identify a single instance of fraud.

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

LOL...
You just admitted and documented there is no fraud of consequence. Good job, loser.

I take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

Even a number 10x what you posted would be inconsequential.

You still have nothing.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

I certainly don't see millions of illegals voting illegally.

Um, how would you know? They don't wear flashing signs around their next reading, "Illegal Immigrant!"

 

[eddiew]

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

That certainly does not mean fraud will result.

No, human nature means that if there's an easy opportunity for fraud, fraud will result. Only leftists think human beings will magically become perfect creatures if believing it will serve their agenda.

LOL is that like the virus will magically disappear like your moron said?

 

[Cecilie1200]

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

That certainly does not mean fraud will result.

No, human nature means that if there's an easy opportunity for fraud, fraud will result. Only leftists think human beings will magically become perfect creatures if believing it will serve their agenda.

No, human nature means that if there's an easy opportunity for fraud, fraud will result. Only leftists think human beings will magically become perfect creatures if believing it will serve their agenda

That exists only within your imagination.
Slowing the mail screws everyone equally.
Regardless of party and regardless of what you call the ballot.

Spare me. If the willingness to cheat and defraud wasn't part of humanity, we wouldn't have laws against them, lackwit. You don't make laws against things no one is going to do anyway. Uh duuuuuh, Jethro.

And no one is "slowing the mail" except you and your asinine insistence on demanding it handle all the votes in a Presidential election with only a couple of months' notice.

 

[Erinwltr]

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

That certainly does not mean fraud will result.

No, human nature means that if there's an easy opportunity for fraud, fraud will result. Only leftists think human beings will magically become perfect creatures if believing it will serve their agenda.

You don't get to define human nature and get away with dictating what "leftists" think, cecilie. What a fucking load of crap. "Both sad and ridiculous" There's the OP to comment about.

 

[Cecilie1200]

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

some of the rolls are not as accurate as you might think they are....

That certainly does not mean fraud will result.

No, human nature means that if there's an easy opportunity for fraud, fraud will result. Only leftists think human beings will magically become perfect creatures if believing it will serve their agenda.

LOL is that like the virus will magically disappear like your moron said?

No, that's like the brains your masters told you would magically appear in your head if you just repeated their talking points. Moron.