Boston Globe calls for trump to be prosecuted

[JimH52]

See this "instigating a mob" talk - how does that work when he explicitly went on TV told them to "stop, go home - this is not what we stand for"

Why do Democrats and lefties feel the need to lie constantly? it's classic fantasist stuff that they actually believe their own lies and/or repeat half-truths so much that they become 100% fact in their heads.

Why have a rally on this day of all days and for what reason?

As opposed to the constant daily rallies of fantasy, lies and pure shit from the Democrats/lefties on here?

There's no rally from me. Asking someone for proof of him instigating a mob is met with all sorts of double-talk and folk asking why I'm having a rally lmao

I guess no-one can post me quotes where he said "go storm the Capitol Building" then going on replies like yours. If you can't give over the proof, just be snidey instead and deflect

You must be a sprinter the way you ran so fast from the subject.

I've not ran away from nothing. I'm still waiting on this proof.

What subject are you talking about anyway? I'm confused? is this your way of continuing to deflect from the fact there's no proof?

Let it go to court...then we will see.

Let's not wait on it going to court. You're the one making these claims and allegations on an open forum - show me your proof and back up your claims?

You might even persuade me that he did "instigate a mob" to storm the Capitol Building.

Unless you have no proof? don't wait on someone in this make-believe court trial that's not even happening try and do your job for you.

If not for Trump and his Big Lie, there is no Insurrection Day.

You might be right - but the part about it being "a big lie" is still up for debate for me.

You can keep on doing mental gymnastics day after day after day trying to equate stuff he's said directly inciting a mob and a riot but it sounds desperate to me. Always has done.

Where I can meet you half way though is that his tone, bluster and brash talk doesn't help things or clam flames. He enjoys the hysteria - I'll give you that.

Who knows what debate remains? The votes were canvassed, counted and certified in all 50 states and D.C.. That, along with dozens of court filings, culminated with Congress certifying the election. The only remaining debate eminates from sore losers.

I think the attempt to rewrite the winner of the 2020 Presidential race is more than "sore losers." It is an attempt from the far right, that has recently aligned itself with Putin's Russia, to destroy our electoral system. There is nothing in the world that Putin would like to see more than seeing the US voter lose confidence in our free electoral system. trump and his cohorts are busy implementing Putin's plan, whether they realize it or not.

Are they just "convenient idiots" or are they willing partners in a plan to destroy the world's greatest Democracy? I think we will know soon. The effort will not go away, even if trump goes away. They are dedicated trumpians in the wings that share his thirst to destroy our country.

 

[postman]

The only thing going in Trumps favor, is that any decisions he made as President, no matter how deadly, or detrimental to the country, are not a crime.

But that's limited to his presidential decisions. Extra-legal things Trump did that weren't duties and responsibilities of the office, such as inciting insurrection would not be protected under sovereign immunity.

Which brings us back to where this started. So the question of prosecution shouldn't be "IF", but instead a question of "WHEN".

 

[JimH52]

Addendum: I'm not really sure that 7 million more supported Biden / Harris, because many of them may have voted that way because they were against how badly Trump messed up the coronavirus pandemic.

What does it matter why they voted "that way." The courts and even trump's very own enabling AG said there was not sufficient voter misconduct to change the outcome of the election. This is the first time in US History that we have not ultimately had a smooth transition of power. And.....Putin smiles.

 

[Faun]

See this "instigating a mob" talk - how does that work when he explicitly went on TV told them to "stop, go home - this is not what we stand for"

Why do Democrats and lefties feel the need to lie constantly? it's classic fantasist stuff that they actually believe their own lies and/or repeat half-truths so much that they become 100% fact in their heads.

Why have a rally on this day of all days and for what reason?

As opposed to the constant daily rallies of fantasy, lies and pure shit from the Democrats/lefties on here?

There's no rally from me. Asking someone for proof of him instigating a mob is met with all sorts of double-talk and folk asking why I'm having a rally lmao

I guess no-one can post me quotes where he said "go storm the Capitol Building" then going on replies like yours. If you can't give over the proof, just be snidey instead and deflect

You must be a sprinter the way you ran so fast from the subject.

I've not ran away from nothing. I'm still waiting on this proof.

What subject are you talking about anyway? I'm confused? is this your way of continuing to deflect from the fact there's no proof?

Let it go to court...then we will see.

Let's not wait on it going to court. You're the one making these claims and allegations on an open forum - show me your proof and back up your claims?

You might even persuade me that he did "instigate a mob" to storm the Capitol Building.

Unless you have no proof? don't wait on someone in this make-believe court trial that's not even happening try and do your job for you.

If not for Trump and his Big Lie, there is no Insurrection Day.

You might be right - but the part about it being "a big lie" is still up for debate for me.

You can keep on doing mental gymnastics day after day after day trying to equate stuff he's said directly inciting a mob and a riot but it sounds desperate to me. Always has done.

Where I can meet you half way though is that his tone, bluster and brash talk doesn't help things or clam flames. He enjoys the hysteria - I'll give you that.

Who knows what debate remains? The votes were canvassed, counted and certified in all 50 states and D.C.. That, along with dozens of court filings, culminated with Congress certifying the election. The only remaining debate eminates from sore losers.

I think the attempt to rewrite the winner of the 2020 Presidential race is more than "sore losers." It is an attempt from the far right, that has recently aligned itself with Putin's Russia, to destroy our electoral system. There is nothing in the world that Putin would like to see more than seeing the US voter lose confidence in our free electoral system. trump and his cohorts are busy implementing Putin's plan, whether they realize it or not.

Are they just "convenient idiots" or are they willing partners in a plan to destroy the world's greatest Democracy? I think we will know soon. The effort will not go away, even if trump goes away. They are dedicated trumpians in the wings that share his thirst to destroy our country.

I can't totally disagree with that but the root cause is still Trump and his inability to accept defeat.

 

[postman]

I think the attempt to rewrite the winner of the 2020 Presidential race is more than "sore losers." It is an attempt from the far right, that has recently aligned itself with Putin's Russia, to destroy our electoral system. There is nothing in the world that Putin would like to see more than seeing the US voter lose confidence in our free electoral system. trump and his cohorts are busy implementing Putin's plan, whether they realize it or not.

Are they just "convenient idiots" or are they willing partners in a plan to destroy the world's greatest Democracy?

Scorched earth policy.

 

[JimH52]

See this "instigating a mob" talk - how does that work when he explicitly went on TV told them to "stop, go home - this is not what we stand for"

Why do Democrats and lefties feel the need to lie constantly? it's classic fantasist stuff that they actually believe their own lies and/or repeat half-truths so much that they become 100% fact in their heads.

Why have a rally on this day of all days and for what reason?

As opposed to the constant daily rallies of fantasy, lies and pure shit from the Democrats/lefties on here?

There's no rally from me. Asking someone for proof of him instigating a mob is met with all sorts of double-talk and folk asking why I'm having a rally lmao

I guess no-one can post me quotes where he said "go storm the Capitol Building" then going on replies like yours. If you can't give over the proof, just be snidey instead and deflect

You must be a sprinter the way you ran so fast from the subject.

I've not ran away from nothing. I'm still waiting on this proof.

What subject are you talking about anyway? I'm confused? is this your way of continuing to deflect from the fact there's no proof?

Let it go to court...then we will see.

Let's not wait on it going to court. You're the one making these claims and allegations on an open forum - show me your proof and back up your claims?

You might even persuade me that he did "instigate a mob" to storm the Capitol Building.

Unless you have no proof? don't wait on someone in this make-believe court trial that's not even happening try and do your job for you.

If not for Trump and his Big Lie, there is no Insurrection Day.

You might be right - but the part about it being "a big lie" is still up for debate for me.

You can keep on doing mental gymnastics day after day after day trying to equate stuff he's said directly inciting a mob and a riot but it sounds desperate to me. Always has done.

Where I can meet you half way though is that his tone, bluster and brash talk doesn't help things or clam flames. He enjoys the hysteria - I'll give you that.

Who knows what debate remains? The votes were canvassed, counted and certified in all 50 states and D.C.. That, along with dozens of court filings, culminated with Congress certifying the election. The only remaining debate eminates from sore losers.

I think the attempt to rewrite the winner of the 2020 Presidential race is more than "sore losers." It is an attempt from the far right, that has recently aligned itself with Putin's Russia, to destroy our electoral system. There is nothing in the world that Putin would like to see more than seeing the US voter lose confidence in our free electoral system. trump and his cohorts are busy implementing Putin's plan, whether they realize it or not.

Are they just "convenient idiots" or are they willing partners in a plan to destroy the world's greatest Democracy? I think we will know soon. The effort will not go away, even if trump goes away. They are dedicated trumpians in the wings that share his thirst to destroy our country.

I can't totally disagree with that but the root cause is still Trump and his inability to accept defeat.

Perhaps, but the resulting damage and destruction of confidence in our voting process is immeasurable. I pray that we will return to a system where all sides respect the outcome of a free and fair election, but it may take generations to wipe the trump stink from our country.

 

[postman]

Addendum: I'm not really sure that 7 million more supported Biden / Harris, because many of them may have voted that way because they were against how badly Trump messed up the coronavirus pandemic.

What does it matter why they voted "that way." The courts and even trump's very own enabling AG said there was not sufficient voter misconduct to change the outcome of the election. This is the first time in US History that we have not ultimately had a smooth transition of power. And.....Putin smiles.

Why people voted for Biden may be a key to destroying Trumps argument. Many people question did that many people really vote for Joe Biden? Being Biden did little or no campaigning, and thus shouldn't have gotten the number of votes cast for him.

But if many of those votes weren't strictly "for" Biden, but instead were "against" Trump, then the idea of 7 million more votes is perfectly reasonable.

That the campaign caused millions more people to vote. But with each additional voter for Trump, there were two voting against Trump.

 

[postman]

Perhaps, but the resulting damage and destruction of confidence in our voting process is immeasurable. I pray that we will return to a system where all sides respect the outcome of a free and fair election, but it may take generations to wipe the trump stink from our country.

It all depends on the outcome of the "election audits"

If all they do is muddy the water, then the country is doomed to a long dark winter.

 

[Oldestyle]

and likewise, I don't buy for one minute some of you actually believe he's guilty of incitement using the quotes he did.

Nah, you're still putting on your act. Yes, of course he did, and he knew what he was doing. And the people who stormed the Capitol knew. He was speaking directly to them. he knew it, and they knew it. They will freely say it. Just ask them.

With all due respect, Fort...if you want to call Trump's rhetoric inciting a riot then you could level that same charge against every single Democratic leader at some point over the past four years! Is that where you REALLY want to go?

Are you kidding? Have you already forgotten Trump's violent rhetoric when he was campaigning?? Look at his performance with the police and the Boy Scouts. Of course Trump says he was only kidding and his followers say he was joking, wink, wink.

How is Trump's "rhetoric" any different from things that Democratic leaders have said? Why is it "violent" when he says something and when liberals say the same thing or worse it's just a figure of speech?

 

[surada]

and likewise, I don't buy for one minute some of you actually believe he's guilty of incitement using the quotes he did.

Nah, you're still putting on your act. Yes, of course he did, and he knew what he was doing. And the people who stormed the Capitol knew. He was speaking directly to them. he knew it, and they knew it. They will freely say it. Just ask them.

With all due respect, Fort...if you want to call Trump's rhetoric inciting a riot then you could level that same charge against every single Democratic leader at some point over the past four years! Is that where you REALLY want to go?

Are you kidding? Have you already forgotten Trump's violent rhetoric when he was campaigning?? Look at his performance with the police and the Boy Scouts. Of course Trump says he was only kidding and his followers say he was joking, wink, wink.

How is Trump's "rhetoric" any different from things that Democratic leaders have said? Why is it "violent" when he says something and when liberals say the same thing or worse it's just a figure of speech?

If you don't know maybe you are as brainless and uncouth as Trump. He certainly doesn't know the difference either. Look how Trump shoved people as the G7 Summit.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You are really lame.

Lame like the Arab armies getting their asses beat by Israel.

The Arabs were never particularly warlike or nationalistic.

Nice way of saying they're losers.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is an attempt from the far right, that has recently aligned itself with Putin's Russia

Was it the reset buttons?

 

[Oldestyle]

Perhaps, but the resulting damage and destruction of confidence in our voting process is immeasurable. I pray that we will return to a system where all sides respect the outcome of a free and fair election, but it may take generations to wipe the trump stink from our country.

It all depends on the outcome of the "election audits"

If all they do is muddy the water, then the country is doomed to a long dark winter.

With all due respect, Postman...wasn't the entire aim of election changes by Democrats to make it virtually impossible to have a secure election? Of course the waters are "muddied"! It's what happens when you send out ballots to addresses where someone who's a valid voter may or may not live! It's what happens when you allow ballot harvesting. It's what happens when you count votes out of the sight of poll watchers.

If you REALLY want election reform...let's use some common sense. A valid ID should be shown by EVERY person casting a vote. Absentee ballots should only be given to those voters that request them and they need to be cast in a timely fashion.

 

[Oldestyle]

and likewise, I don't buy for one minute some of you actually believe he's guilty of incitement using the quotes he did.

Nah, you're still putting on your act. Yes, of course he did, and he knew what he was doing. And the people who stormed the Capitol knew. He was speaking directly to them. he knew it, and they knew it. They will freely say it. Just ask them.

With all due respect, Fort...if you want to call Trump's rhetoric inciting a riot then you could level that same charge against every single Democratic leader at some point over the past four years! Is that where you REALLY want to go?

Are you kidding? Have you already forgotten Trump's violent rhetoric when he was campaigning?? Look at his performance with the police and the Boy Scouts. Of course Trump says he was only kidding and his followers say he was joking, wink, wink.

How is Trump's "rhetoric" any different from things that Democratic leaders have said? Why is it "violent" when he says something and when liberals say the same thing or worse it's just a figure of speech?

If you don't know maybe you are as brainless and uncouth as Trump. He certainly doesn't know the difference either. Look how Trump shoved people as the G7 Summit.

You're the one claiming that Trump's rhetoric is somehow different than Democratic leader's rhetoric. I'm simply asking why you have a double standard. Fair is fair. If you want to jail Trump for "inciting" a riot then you'd best get cells ready for most of the Democratic leadership because things that THEY have said are worse than Trump ever said!

 

[postman]

With all due respect, Postman...wasn't the entire aim of election changes by Democrats to make it virtually impossible to have a secure election?

You mean mail-in ballots?
Don't you trust the post office to securely deliver the mail?

When the Smithsonian was shipped the Hope Diamond, they trusted the post office to deliver it.

 

[Oldestyle]

With all due respect, Postman...wasn't the entire aim of election changes by Democrats to make it virtually impossible to have a secure election?

You mean mail-in ballots?
Don't you trust the post office to securely deliver the mail?

I'm referring to the practice of mailing ballots to the last known address of voters. It's a recipe for voter fraud.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Boston Globe editorial board calls for Trump to be criminally prosecuted

The editorial is part of a larger project called “Future-Proofing the Presidency”

www.independent.co.uk

We have never had a president who so blatantly come after the Constitution, even to the point of instigating a mob to try and stop the certification of his opponent. trump is no better than any tin horned dictator who refused to leave office and try to rally his cult to keep him in power.

The man is a grave danger to our country. Now he will be traveling from rally to rally spewing his Big Lie. If we let this man and his lie stand, we have set precedent for future presidents to try the same thing. He must be prosecuted for his crimes!

Awwww is wittle snowflake missing him some Trump love? Of all the problems Pinochijoe has caused you still dote on your boyfriend how sweet.

 

[postman]

I'm referring to the practice of mailing ballots to the last known address of voters. It's a recipe for voter fraud.

You know it's a felony for anybody but the people living at that address to take anything out of the mailbox.

 

[surada]

and likewise, I don't buy for one minute some of you actually believe he's guilty of incitement using the quotes he did.

Nah, you're still putting on your act. Yes, of course he did, and he knew what he was doing. And the people who stormed the Capitol knew. He was speaking directly to them. he knew it, and they knew it. They will freely say it. Just ask them.

With all due respect, Fort...if you want to call Trump's rhetoric inciting a riot then you could level that same charge against every single Democratic leader at some point over the past four years! Is that where you REALLY want to go?

Are you kidding? Have you already forgotten Trump's violent rhetoric when he was campaigning?? Look at his performance with the police and the Boy Scouts. Of course Trump says he was only kidding and his followers say he was joking, wink, wink.

How is Trump's "rhetoric" any different from things that Democratic leaders have said? Why is it "violent" when he says something and when liberals say the same thing or worse it's just a figure of speech?

If you don't know maybe you are as brainless and uncouth as Trump. He certainly doesn't know the difference either. Look how Trump shoved people as the G7 Summit.

You're the one claiming that Trump's rhetoric is somehow different than Democratic leader's rhetoric. I'm simply asking why you have a double standard. Fair is fair. If you want to jail Trump for "inciting" a riot then you'd best get cells ready for most of the Democratic leadership because things that THEY have said are worse than Trump ever said!

Very, very different.. Trump's vocabulary is about a 4th grade level and he not only can't finish a sentence, he can't stay on point. He likes bully slang.. like he's some tough game show host.

 

[Oldestyle]

With all due respect, Postman...wasn't the entire aim of election changes by Democrats to make it virtually impossible to have a secure election?

You mean mail-in ballots?
Don't you trust the post office to securely deliver the mail?

When the Smithsonian was shipped the Hope Diamond, they trusted the post office to deliver it.

I'm sure the Postal Service did a fine job doing so! If what had been shipped was a fake Hope Diamond would it suddenly become real because the Postal Service delivered it? If the Postal Service delivered ballots that were filled out by someone other than the person that SHOULD have been filling it out...does that make the ballot more legitimate?