Born in the U.S. = American citizen, but not if Trump has his way

[Kondor3]

If you cannot make your point without disrespecting human life, you don't really have one.

Horseshit.

The verbiage is entirely unrelated to the merit of the point.

 

[kaz]

[ ...many babies were born in many parts of the US to many kinds of parents today and EVERY one of them is a US citizen...

Yep... that's the loophole for Illegal Beaners... but the question is now how to close the loophole... and a simple re-interpretation of the 14th will do very nicely.

Only a Constitutional amendment, which is very unlikely.

And still none of the moaners and groaners do a single thing to actually work toward their dreamed-of Constitutional amendment.

All it takes is a majority SCOTUS opinion ruling that the framers of the 14th did not intend that loophole to exist, and, poof - an end to the Invastion.

our system of law is a common law system. that common law is made up of the constitution, statutes and caselaw, all of which are law and have to be followed. the final arbiter of what is constitutional is the supreme court. and pretty much anyone who calls immigrants by derogatory names isn't really worth bothering trying to explain things to anyway.

citizenship is by birth in this country....not by blood like nazi germany.

your wishful thinking is not law.

That isn't what common law mans, Ditsy. And wow, if you don't give automatic citizenship to illegal immigrants then you're a Nazi. You people go furtheroff the loonie cliff every day

 

[Unkotare]

If you cannot make your point without disrespecting human life, you don't really have one.

Horseshit.....

Dimwitted children often try to chase away things they can't understand and are afraid of by crafting pointless, unimaginative taunts, as if this will mask their infantile fears. The effect, of course, is exactly the opposite. When this kind of behavior is engaged in by supposed adults, and the target is innocent babies and the dignity of life itself, it is painfully obvious the person acting so childishly and disgracefully has nothing of relevance to say about the topic at hand.

 

[Unkotare]

Calling someone a "nazi" because they disagree with and/or can't understand the Constitution is just as ridiculous as mocking innocent, newborn babies and the process of childbirth itself because one has nothing of substance to say.

Maybe if the interlocutors on both sides tried to act like adults, a real discussion might be had.

 

[jillian]

[ ...many babies were born in many parts of the US to many kinds of parents today and EVERY one of them is a US citizen...

Yep... that's the loophole for Illegal Beaners... but the question is now how to close the loophole... and a simple re-interpretation of the 14th will do very nicely.

Only a Constitutional amendment, which is very unlikely.

And still none of the moaners and groaners do a single thing to actually work toward their dreamed-of Constitutional amendment.

All it takes is a majority SCOTUS opinion ruling that the framers of the 14th did not intend that loophole to exist, and, poof - an end to the Invastion.

our system of law is a common law system. that common law is made up of the constitution, statutes and caselaw, all of which are law and have to be followed. the final arbiter of what is constitutional is the supreme court. and pretty much anyone who calls immigrants by derogatory names isn't really worth bothering trying to explain things to anyway.

citizenship is by birth in this country....not by blood like nazi germany.

your wishful thinking is not law.

That isn't what common law mans, Ditsy. And wow, if you don't give automatic citizenship to illegal immigrants then you're a Nazi. You people go furtheroff the loonie cliff every day

It is exactly what common law is. I'll be sure to advise all of my professors and the judges and lawyers in my circle that some brain dead twit on the internet knows more than all of us

 

[kaz]

Yep... that's the loophole for Illegal Beaners... but the question is now how to close the loophole... and a simple re-interpretation of the 14th will do very nicely.

Only a Constitutional amendment, which is very unlikely.

And still none of the moaners and groaners do a single thing to actually work toward their dreamed-of Constitutional amendment.

All it takes is a majority SCOTUS opinion ruling that the framers of the 14th did not intend that loophole to exist, and, poof - an end to the Invastion.

our system of law is a common law system. that common law is made up of the constitution, statutes and caselaw, all of which are law and have to be followed. the final arbiter of what is constitutional is the supreme court. and pretty much anyone who calls immigrants by derogatory names isn't really worth bothering trying to explain things to anyway.

citizenship is by birth in this country....not by blood like nazi germany.

your wishful thinking is not law.

That isn't what common law mans, Ditsy. And wow, if you don't give automatic citizenship to illegal immigrants then you're a Nazi. You people go furtheroff the loonie cliff every day

It is exactly what common law is. I'll be sure to advise all of my professors and the judges and lawyers in my circle that some brain dead twit on the internet knows more than all of us

Common law comes from the people, not government, you mindless sycophant

 

[jillian]

Only a Constitutional amendment, which is very unlikely.

And still none of the moaners and groaners do a single thing to actually work toward their dreamed-of Constitutional amendment.

All it takes is a majority SCOTUS opinion ruling that the framers of the 14th did not intend that loophole to exist, and, poof - an end to the Invastion.

our system of law is a common law system. that common law is made up of the constitution, statutes and caselaw, all of which are law and have to be followed. the final arbiter of what is constitutional is the supreme court. and pretty much anyone who calls immigrants by derogatory names isn't really worth bothering trying to explain things to anyway.

citizenship is by birth in this country....not by blood like nazi germany.

your wishful thinking is not law.

That isn't what common law mans, Ditsy. And wow, if you don't give automatic citizenship to illegal immigrants then you're a Nazi. You people go furtheroff the loonie cliff every day

It is exactly what common law is. I'll be sure to advise all of my professors and the judges and lawyers in my circle that some brain dead twit on the internet knows more than all of us

Common law comes from the people, not government, you mindless sycophant

You remain one of the stupidest most vapid mindless twits ever to use a keyboard.

Common law system

 

[kaz]

All it takes is a majority SCOTUS opinion ruling that the framers of the 14th did not intend that loophole to exist, and, poof - an end to the Invastion.

our system of law is a common law system. that common law is made up of the constitution, statutes and caselaw, all of which are law and have to be followed. the final arbiter of what is constitutional is the supreme court. and pretty much anyone who calls immigrants by derogatory names isn't really worth bothering trying to explain things to anyway.

citizenship is by birth in this country....not by blood like nazi germany.

your wishful thinking is not law.

That isn't what common law mans, Ditsy. And wow, if you don't give automatic citizenship to illegal immigrants then you're a Nazi. You people go furtheroff the loonie cliff every day

It is exactly what common law is. I'll be sure to advise all of my professors and the judges and lawyers in my circle that some brain dead twit on the internet knows more than all of us

Common law comes from the people, not government, you mindless sycophant

You remain one of the stupidest most vapid mindless twits ever to use a keyboard.

Common law system

From the Ditsy Twit who thinks that common law is dictated by government

 

[12icer]

You remain one of the stupidest most vapid mindless twits ever to use a keyboard.

Common law system

I fail to see how the English "Common Law" system relates to OUR use of the "common law" term as it is interpreted by Courts. But as you wish.

As for the 14th It is completely defined by hundreds of available court cases if you wish to really find out how misused it is. It even has cases about wage disparity, public facility usage, AND American Diplomatic immunity cases.

 

[Treeshepherd]

The purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that native born slaves gained citizenship after abolition. That purpose is antiquated and irrelevant today. Very few other countries have such a law. But such an amendment would be difficult to overturn, even with a Republican control in the White House, legislature and judiciary.

Lost in virtually every immigration debate is the reality that most immigration is coming from places other than Mexico. Seemingly, every news story features an interview with a Hispanic professor or politician. Or it's war coverage of Trump vs. Jorge Ramos.

Many Chinese have money to fly over here on a visa and stay at maternity hotels set up just for them. There's no law against "maternity tourism". They establish Asian communities like Millbrae, CA where they can be live in an insular Chinese culture without the restrictions of communism.

Asian 'anchor babies': Wealthy Chinese come to Southern California to give birth

 

[ChrisL]

The purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that native born slaves gained citizenship after abolition. That purpose is antiquated and irrelevant today. Very few other countries have such a law. But such an amendment would be difficult to overturn, even with a Republican control in the White House, legislature and judiciary.

Lost in virtually every immigration debate is the reality that most immigration is coming from places other than Mexico. Seemingly, every news story features an interview with a Hispanic professor or politician. Or it's war coverage of Trump vs. Jorge Ramos.

Many Chinese have money to fly over here on a visa and stay at maternity hotels set up just for them. There's no law against "maternity tourism". They establish Asian communities like Millbrae, CA where they can be live in an insular Chinese culture without the restrictions of communism.

Asian 'anchor babies': Wealthy Chinese come to Southern California to give birth

I think MOST of our illegal immigrants are from South America/Central America.

 

[ChrisL]

Yep... that's the loophole for Illegal Beaners... but the question is now how to close the loophole... and a simple re-interpretation of the 14th will do very nicely.

Only a Constitutional amendment, which is very unlikely.

And still none of the moaners and groaners do a single thing to actually work toward their dreamed-of Constitutional amendment.

All it takes is a majority SCOTUS opinion ruling that the framers of the 14th did not intend that loophole to exist, and, poof - an end to the Invastion.

our system of law is a common law system. that common law is made up of the constitution, statutes and caselaw, all of which are law and have to be followed. the final arbiter of what is constitutional is the supreme court. and pretty much anyone who calls immigrants by derogatory names isn't really worth bothering trying to explain things to anyway.

citizenship is by birth in this country....not by blood like nazi germany.

your wishful thinking is not law.

That isn't what common law mans, Ditsy. And wow, if you don't give automatic citizenship to illegal immigrants then you're a Nazi. You people go furtheroff the loonie cliff every day

It is exactly what common law is. I'll be sure to advise all of my professors and the judges and lawyers in my circle that some brain dead twit on the internet knows more than all of us

Common law means laws recognized by judges but are not based on congressional statutes.

 

[Kondor3]

Calling someone a "nazi" because they disagree with and/or can't understand the Constitution is just as ridiculous as mocking innocent, newborn babies and the process of childbirth itself because one has nothing of substance to say.

Maybe if the interlocutors on both sides tried to act like adults, a real discussion might be had.

A "real discussion" has been had, time and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

It never does any good.

Consequently, it's long past time to break out the rocks.

We have been invaded.

By a mob-army, 11,000,000 to 12,000,000 strong - or more.

Time to repel the Invasion.

To do that, it's necessary to get down and dirty.

This is no longer a discussion... this is war... at least, at the propaganda stage.

Don't like it? Tell it to the chaplain, soldier... tell it to the chaplain.

To the devil with your Illegal Aliens and their litters of Anchor Baby spawn.

This is our country, not theirs.

We get to say who can come in, and who can stay; not them.

And certainly not misguided twits who would let the whole world in, if left unchallenged.

 

[Kondor3]

If you cannot make your point without disrespecting human life, you don't really have one.

Horseshit.....

Dimwitted children often try to chase away things they can't understand and are afraid of by crafting pointless, unimaginative taunts, as if this will mask their infantile fears. The effect, of course, is exactly the opposite. When this kind of behavior is engaged in by supposed adults, and the target is innocent babies and the dignity of life itself, it is painfully obvious the person acting so childishly and disgracefully has nothing of relevance to say about the topic at hand.

Oh, cry-me-a-river...

The 'behavior' you cite is a manifestation of disgust with the Friends of Illegal Aliens, who side with them, rather than their own countrymen.

Being negatively cited by you and your Friends of Illegal Aliens is High Praise, indeed.

Thank you.

 

[Unkotare]

Calling someone a "nazi" because they disagree with and/or can't understand the Constitution is just as ridiculous as mocking innocent, newborn babies and the process of childbirth itself because one has nothing of substance to say.

Maybe if the interlocutors on both sides tried to act like adults, a real discussion might be had.

A "real discussion" has been had, time and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again......

Link to one. Just one will do.

 

[Unkotare]

...

We have been invaded.

By a mob-army, 11,000,000 to 12,000,000 strong - or more.

Time to repel the Invasion.

To do that, it's necessary to get down and dirty.

This is no longer a discussion... this is war... at least, at the propaganda stage......

Pointless, empty hyperbole which - again - indicates as clearly as possible that the arrested adolescent has nothing serious to offer.

 

[Unkotare]

......

To the devil with your Illegal Aliens and their litters of Anchor Baby spawn.

........

A vicious hatred of babies must surely be a warning sign of some severe mental disorder suggesting a danger to the patient and society as a whole.

It would be nice to have a serious, adult discussion of an important issue, but...

 

[Unkotare]

......

This is our country, not theirs........

If you are referring to anyone born in the US, they are every bit as much (if not not more) part of the "our" rather than the "theirs," of course.

 

[Unkotare]

If you cannot make your point without disrespecting human life, you don't really have one.

Horseshit.....

Dimwitted children often try to chase away things they can't understand and are afraid of by crafting pointless, unimaginative taunts, as if this will mask their infantile fears. The effect, of course, is exactly the opposite. When this kind of behavior is engaged in by supposed adults, and the target is innocent babies and the dignity of life itself, it is painfully obvious the person acting so childishly and disgracefully has nothing of relevance to say about the topic at hand.

Oh, cry-me-a-river...

The 'behavior' you cite is a manifestation of disgust with the Friends of Illegal Aliens, who side with them, rather than their own countrymen.

Being negatively cited by you and your Friends of Illegal Aliens is High Praise, indeed.

Thank you.

Dimwitted children often try to chase away things they can't understand and are afraid of by crafting pointless, unimaginative taunts, as if this will mask their infantile fears. The effect, of course, is exactly the opposite. When this kind of behavior is engaged in by supposed adults, and the target is innocent babies and the dignity of life itself, it is painfully obvious the person acting so childishly and disgracefully has nothing of relevance to say about the topic at hand.

 

[Unkotare]

The purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that native born slaves gained citizenship after abolition. That purpose is antiquated and irrelevant today. Very few other countries have such a law. But such an amendment would be difficult to overturn, even with a Republican control in the White House, legislature and judiciary.

Lost in virtually every immigration debate is the reality that most immigration is coming from places other than Mexico. Seemingly, every news story features an interview with a Hispanic professor or politician. Or it's war coverage of Trump vs. Jorge Ramos.

Many Chinese have money to fly over here on a visa and stay at maternity hotels set up just for them. There's no law against "maternity tourism". They establish Asian communities like Millbrae, CA where they can be live in an insular Chinese culture without the restrictions of communism.

Asian 'anchor babies': Wealthy Chinese come to Southern California to give birth

I think MOST of our illegal immigrants are from South America/Central America.

FYI: Mexico is part of North America.