Born in the U.S. = American citizen, but not if Trump has his way

[Kondor3]

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We have been invaded.

By a mob-army, 11,000,000 to 12,000,000 strong - or more.

Time to repel the Invasion.

To do that, it's necessary to get down and dirty.

This is no longer a discussion... this is war... at least, at the propaganda stage......

Pointless, empty hyperbole which - again - indicates as clearly as possible that the arrested adolescent has nothing serious to offer.

Sit down, little one - your 5th grade recess-yard deflection-defense of 11-12,000,000 Invaders upon US soil is well-known.

 

[Kondor3]

The purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that native born slaves gained citizenship after abolition. That purpose is antiquated and irrelevant today. Very few other countries have such a law. But such an amendment would be difficult to overturn, even with a Republican control in the White House, legislature and judiciary.

Lost in virtually every immigration debate is the reality that most immigration is coming from places other than Mexico. Seemingly, every news story features an interview with a Hispanic professor or politician. Or it's war coverage of Trump vs. Jorge Ramos.

Many Chinese have money to fly over here on a visa and stay at maternity hotels set up just for them. There's no law against "maternity tourism". They establish Asian communities like Millbrae, CA where they can be live in an insular Chinese culture without the restrictions of communism.

Asian 'anchor babies': Wealthy Chinese come to Southern California to give birth

I think MOST of our illegal immigrants are from South America/Central America.

FYI: Mexico is part of North America.

Doesn't matter.

They're not US.

Got it, Pancho?

 

[Kondor3]

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To the devil with your Illegal Aliens and their litters of Anchor Baby spawn.

........

A vicious hatred of babies must surely be a warning sign of some severe mental disorder suggesting a danger to the patient and society as a whole.

It would be nice to have a serious, adult discussion of an important issue, but...

Sit down, child...

When you're ready to take the side of your fellow countrymen, against an army of 11-12,000,000 Invaders, you'll get a seat at the Big Boy Table.

Until then, you can side with those Illegal Beaners and their litters of Anchor Baby pups as much as you want.

Won't do them - or you - any good.

 

[Unkotare]

...

We have been invaded.

By a mob-army, 11,000,000 to 12,000,000 strong - or more.

Time to repel the Invasion.

To do that, it's necessary to get down and dirty.

This is no longer a discussion... this is war... at least, at the propaganda stage......

Pointless, empty hyperbole which - again - indicates as clearly as possible that the arrested adolescent has nothing serious to offer.

Sit down, .......

Sitting, standing, swimming; pointless, empty hyperbole is just that and nothing more. It reveals what it reveals about its source.

 

[Unkotare]

......

To the devil with your Illegal Aliens and their litters of Anchor Baby spawn.

........

A vicious hatred of babies must surely be a warning sign of some severe mental disorder suggesting a danger to the patient and society as a whole.

It would be nice to have a serious, adult discussion of an important issue, but...

...

When you're ready to take the side of your fellow countrymen,.........

People born in the US are my fellow countrymen (and women).

 

[Unkotare]

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Got it, Pancho?

"Pancho"?

???????????????????

 

[Kondor3]

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To the devil with your Illegal Aliens and their litters of Anchor Baby spawn.

........

A vicious hatred of babies must surely be a warning sign of some severe mental disorder suggesting a danger to the patient and society as a whole.

It would be nice to have a serious, adult discussion of an important issue, but...

...

When you're ready to take the side of your fellow countrymen,.........

People born in the US are my fellow countrymen (and women).

People born in the US of Illegal Aliens are LEGALLY your fellow countrymen, and the question before the bar is, SHOULD they be.

The answer is a resounding "No".

Your fellow countrymen are those who born here of Legal Citizens and Legal Residents, NOT those born of Illegal Aliens who snuck into or overstayed their welcome in our country.

Your fellow countrymen are ESPECIALLY NOT those born of Illegal Aliens who came her to intentionally birth children in order to obtain an unofficial but very real Anchor status.

At least not beyond the realm of paper, anyway.

If we let you (and yours) get your way, anyone who wanted to come here, could simply slip across the border, pop-out a puppy or two, and, viola, Instant Get-to-Stay-Here Card.

No thank you.

You might get away with that shit one last time, during a 3rd Obama term, but don't count on it beyond 2020.

 

[Kondor3]

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Got it, Pancho?

"Pancho"?

???????????????????

If you don't understand the rationale behind the label, you're either being intentionally obtuse, or you really are that dense.

Either way... figure it out for yourself.

 

[Ame®icano]

The purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that native born slaves gained citizenship after abolition. That purpose is antiquated and irrelevant today. Very few other countries have such a law. But such an amendment would be difficult to overturn, even with a Republican control in the White House, legislature and judiciary.

Lost in virtually every immigration debate is the reality that most immigration is coming from places other than Mexico. Seemingly, every news story features an interview with a Hispanic professor or politician. Or it's war coverage of Trump vs. Jorge Ramos.

Many Chinese have money to fly over here on a visa and stay at maternity hotels set up just for them. There's no law against "maternity tourism". They establish Asian communities like Millbrae, CA where they can be live in an insular Chinese culture without the restrictions of communism.

Asian 'anchor babies': Wealthy Chinese come to Southern California to give birth

I think MOST of our illegal immigrants are from South America/Central America.

FYI: Mexico is part of North America.

Geographically only.

 

[Unkotare]

The purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that native born slaves gained citizenship after abolition. That purpose is antiquated and irrelevant today. Very few other countries have such a law. But such an amendment would be difficult to overturn, even with a Republican control in the White House, legislature and judiciary.

Lost in virtually every immigration debate is the reality that most immigration is coming from places other than Mexico. Seemingly, every news story features an interview with a Hispanic professor or politician. Or it's war coverage of Trump vs. Jorge Ramos.

Many Chinese have money to fly over here on a visa and stay at maternity hotels set up just for them. There's no law against "maternity tourism". They establish Asian communities like Millbrae, CA where they can be live in an insular Chinese culture without the restrictions of communism.

Asian 'anchor babies': Wealthy Chinese come to Southern California to give birth

I think MOST of our illegal immigrants are from South America/Central America.

FYI: Mexico is part of North America.

Geographically only.

It's a matter of geography.

 

[Ame®icano]

People born in the US of Illegal Aliens are LEGALLY your fellow countrymen, and the question before the bar is, SHOULD they be.

The answer is a resounding "No".

Your fellow countrymen are those who born here of Legal Citizens and Legal Residents, NOT those born of Illegal Aliens who snuck into or overstayed their welcome in our country.

Your fellow countrymen are ESPECIALLY NOT those born of Illegal Aliens who came her to intentionally birth children in order to obtain an unofficial but very real Anchor status.

At least not beyond the realm of paper, anyway.

If we let you (and yours) get your way, anyone who wanted to come here, could simply slip across the border, pop-out a puppy or two, and, viola, Instant Get-to-Stay-Here Card.

No thank you.

You might get away with that shit one last time, during a 3rd Obama term, but don't count on it beyond 2020.

Illegals are getting preferred treatment by leftists over US citizens and those who come here legally.

Leftist are purposely ignoring what the legal immigration is. They act as they feel bad for all those illegals and refugees coming over while only thing on their mind are their votes. And before you leftist jump ahead and attack, yes, they do vote.

What about people waiting for five or more years to come here legally? Why do we have borders or why does legal immigration even exist anymore if you can just get a backpack with water supply, or get on a improvised boat and show up in US and demand that you get accepted as an immigrant?

 

[Ame®icano]

The purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that native born slaves gained citizenship after abolition. That purpose is antiquated and irrelevant today. Very few other countries have such a law. But such an amendment would be difficult to overturn, even with a Republican control in the White House, legislature and judiciary.

Lost in virtually every immigration debate is the reality that most immigration is coming from places other than Mexico. Seemingly, every news story features an interview with a Hispanic professor or politician. Or it's war coverage of Trump vs. Jorge Ramos.

Many Chinese have money to fly over here on a visa and stay at maternity hotels set up just for them. There's no law against "maternity tourism". They establish Asian communities like Millbrae, CA where they can be live in an insular Chinese culture without the restrictions of communism.

Asian 'anchor babies': Wealthy Chinese come to Southern California to give birth

I think MOST of our illegal immigrants are from South America/Central America.

FYI: Mexico is part of North America.

Geographically only.

It's a matter of geography.

Not in the context given by ChrisL. Mexicans in every way associate themselves with the South America... politically, economically, socially. Just as leftists here in US, they love socialism, mob rule, gangs, crime, corruption, etc. That is not North American mentality.

 

[Unkotare]

The purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that native born slaves gained citizenship after abolition. That purpose is antiquated and irrelevant today. Very few other countries have such a law. But such an amendment would be difficult to overturn, even with a Republican control in the White House, legislature and judiciary.

Lost in virtually every immigration debate is the reality that most immigration is coming from places other than Mexico. Seemingly, every news story features an interview with a Hispanic professor or politician. Or it's war coverage of Trump vs. Jorge Ramos.

Many Chinese have money to fly over here on a visa and stay at maternity hotels set up just for them. There's no law against "maternity tourism". They establish Asian communities like Millbrae, CA where they can be live in an insular Chinese culture without the restrictions of communism.

Asian 'anchor babies': Wealthy Chinese come to Southern California to give birth

I think MOST of our illegal immigrants are from South America/Central America.

FYI: Mexico is part of North America.

Geographically only.

It's a matter of geography.

Not in the context given by ChrisL. Mexicans in every way associate themselves with the South America... politically, economically, socially. Just as leftists here in US, they love socialism, mob rule, gangs, crime, corruption, etc. That is not North American mentality.

Find yourself a person from Mexico and ask him or her if Mexico is in North America or not. Then ask them how 'close' they feel to Central America (you know, that part in between North and South America?).

 

[Ame®icano]

I think MOST of our illegal immigrants are from South America/Central America.

FYI: Mexico is part of North America.

Geographically only.

It's a matter of geography.

Not in the context given by ChrisL. Mexicans in every way associate themselves with the South America... politically, economically, socially. Just as leftists here in US, they love socialism, mob rule, gangs, crime, corruption, etc. That is not North American mentality.

Find yourself a person from Mexico and ask him or her if Mexico is in North America or not. Then ask them how 'close' they feel to Central America (you know, that part in between North and South America?).

I don't know what are you trying to prove here. I agreed they are geographically part of North America. The Central America is not a continent. That is not what ChrisL and I are talking about.

Yeah, ask Mexicans are they associating themselves with Americans or Canadians, rather than with Colombians, Venezuelans or Brazilians. What do you think they'll say?

 

[Unkotare]

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Yeah, ask Mexicans are they associating themselves with Americans or Canadians, rather than with Colombians, Venezuelans or Brazilians. What do you think they'll say?

They say "none of the above." Most Mexicans will tell you Mexico is Mexico, and do not appreciate being lumped in with any other parts of Latin America.

 

[Ame®icano]

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Yeah, ask Mexicans are they associating themselves with Americans or Canadians, rather than with Colombians, Venezuelans or Brazilians. What do you think they'll say?

They say "none of the above." Most Mexicans will tell you Mexico is Mexico, and do not appreciate being lumped in with any other parts of Latin America.

They're not calling themselves Latinos for a reason, right?.

 

[Unkotare]

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Yeah, ask Mexicans are they associating themselves with Americans or Canadians, rather than with Colombians, Venezuelans or Brazilians. What do you think they'll say?

They say "none of the above." Most Mexicans will tell you Mexico is Mexico, and do not appreciate being lumped in with any other parts of Latin America.

They're not calling themselves Latinos for a reason, right?.

People from Mexico are Latinos.

 

[kaz]

Only a Constitutional amendment, which is very unlikely.

And still none of the moaners and groaners do a single thing to actually work toward their dreamed-of Constitutional amendment.

All it takes is a majority SCOTUS opinion ruling that the framers of the 14th did not intend that loophole to exist, and, poof - an end to the Invastion.

our system of law is a common law system. that common law is made up of the constitution, statutes and caselaw, all of which are law and have to be followed. the final arbiter of what is constitutional is the supreme court. and pretty much anyone who calls immigrants by derogatory names isn't really worth bothering trying to explain things to anyway.

citizenship is by birth in this country....not by blood like nazi germany.

your wishful thinking is not law.

That isn't what common law mans, Ditsy. And wow, if you don't give automatic citizenship to illegal immigrants then you're a Nazi. You people go furtheroff the loonie cliff every day

It is exactly what common law is. I'll be sure to advise all of my professors and the judges and lawyers in my circle that some brain dead twit on the internet knows more than all of us

Common law means laws recognized by judges but are not based on congressional statutes.

Yes, "common law" was actually a way that people adjudicated matters themselves, it's one of that bases that anarchists argue we don't need government. I don't think that's realistic, which is why I'm a small government libertarian not an anarchist, but to say government decides what is "common law" is actually the polar oppose of what it means. Interesting that people though came up with so much a fairer system than any government anywhere ever has

 

[Kondor3]

...Illegals are getting preferred treatment by leftists over US citizens and those who come here legally....

To the extent that idiot Leftists protect them, I agree.

QUOTE] ...Leftist are purposely ignoring what the legal immigration is. They act as they feel bad for all those illegals and refugees coming over while only thing on their mind are their votes. And before you leftist jump ahead and attack, yes, they do vote...[/QUOTE]
Yep. They ignore the meaning of Legal Immigration. To them, any immigrant is welcome, in numbers small or vast, legal or illegal. It's a mental deficiency which says: "Come. Take over our lands. Our homes. Our jobs. Our economy. We are a place of refuge. We must be. The base of our Status of Liberty says so. That motto is an 11th commandment."

Goddamned fools would give away the farm, if we were stupid enough to let them.

...What about people waiting for five or more years to come here legally? Why do we have borders or why does legal immigration even exist anymore if you can just get a backpack with water supply, or get on a improvised boat and show up in US and demand that you get accepted as an immigrant?

It's LibTard Welcome Wagon Syndrome. Zero thought for the dangerous legal and ethical precedent being set, or the locust plague set loose in the lower end of the job market.

Just so long as they can feel good with a case of the warm-and-fuzzies that they're being welcomeing.

Dullards. Dolts. Fools.

To the clowns on the Left, Immigration Reform = codespeak for Shamnesty.

No thank you.