Boeing workers on strike want 40% raise

[airplanemechanic]

Yes, you need to deflect; your ideology demands you try and avoid the point.

I'm answering the question.

 

[Picaro]

Interesting thank you for that perspective....

Now they're having to spend big bux bringing a lot of the stuff back in-house, which means having to pay moving expenses to get people to move back to work in their plants. Seattle ain't cheap.

 

[Picaro]

I'm answering the question.

The answer is $137 billion divided by 100. But math is racist so it doesn't count.

 

[airplanemechanic]

The answer is $137 billion divided by 100. But math is racist so it doesn't count.

The answer is 0 divided by 99. Bill Gates isn't homeless just because he walks into a shelter.

I rest my case.

 

[Concerned American]

That's a big reason for the immigration problem.

Refresh my memory, who opened the borders? Diane Feinstein is on record saying, We need illegal immigrants for ag jobs (paraphrased). Bill Clinton opened up H1B visas in Silicon Valley to keep tech wages down in the late 90s. In addition, the vegetable and Biden have had nearly four years to facilitate higher union wages while they've been redistributing those tax dollars to their favorites. I don't believe the republicans have been too fond of illegal immigration.

 

[Woodznutz]

What;s the average net worth of homeless shelter people if 99 of them are worth zero and Bill gates walks in?

Great point, let's apply that to all statistics about everything.

Data = facts
Statistics = confusion

 

[Picaro]

The answer is 0 divided by 99. Bill Gates isn't homeless just because he walks into a shelter.

I rest my case.

I didn't say he was homeless, but you keep trying, since you got nothing else.

 

[Picaro]

Great point, let's apply that to all statistics about everything.

Data = facts
Statistics = confusion

Like you did with the Boeing payroll data? Why not post the base pay for those actually building the outsourced products? You want to play games with numbers? The number of Apple I-Phone engineers working in the U.S. can fit around the average kitchen table and make big salaries. The people who actually build the phones all work in Asian sweatshops for less than subsistence wages. You think the median and averages between the two are comparable?

 

[Woodznutz]

Refresh my memory, who opened the borders? Diane Feinstein is on record saying, We need illegal immigrants for ag jobs (paraphrased). Bill Clinton opened up H1B visas in Silicon Valley to keep tech wages down in the late 90s. In addition, the vegetable and Biden have had nearly four years to facilitate higher union wages while they've been redistributing those tax dollars to their favorites. I don't believe the republicans have been too fond of illegal immigration.

When their countries turned to shit the path to the U.S. was pretty well known.

 

[Woodznutz]

Like you did with the Boeing payroll data? Why not post the base pay for those actually building the outsourced products? You want to play games with numbers? The number of Apple I-Phone engineers working in the U.S. can fit around the average kitchen table and make big salaries. The people who actually build the phones all work in Asian sweatshops for less than subsistence wages. You think the median and averages between the two are comparable?

I copied and pasted those numbers. I didn't make them up.

They were Boeings numbers not Apple's.

You attempted to use 'statistics'. I prefer data.

 

[Concerned American]

When their countries turned to shit the path to the U.S. was pretty well known.

Their countries have always been banana republics, the democrats have never thrown the gates wide open before. Free flights into the country are not helping either.

 

[Rambunctious]

Dig down to the nitty gritty... people need more money to live on today... no matter who you are you need more money to live than you did when Trump was president... and you made more too... maybe the answer is to elect Trump to give the economy a much needed boost... for union and non union working people...

 

[Rambunctious]

I heard a scary stat on the radio today that the cost that is killing the economy the most... and the highest deficit creator is Welfare and Medicaid costs... in other words we spend over a hundred times the cost we set aside for it each year... its bankrupting America and the dems just opened the border for more welfare seekers...
This will affect our poor people the most... American citizens who worked their entire lives but can't do without assistance will get short changed... Both union workers and non union workers will suffer....

 

[rampart]

She's so dumb she had to have the questions in advance and both moderators helping her.

if trump did not see those questions coming he is too stupid to be president.

he may have had "the concept of a plan" for that debate, but kamala made him such her bitch that the haitians are trying to eat him.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

And I would love to have a rainbow unicorn to give to my daughter.

Yes, it's over four years, but come on, this is ridiculous and these kind of wage increases, are one of the reasons we have been living in the inflation-age.

Boeing workers on strike for the 1st time in 16 years after 96% vote to reject contract​

The overwhelming vote to reject a contract deal is expected to halt operations in the Seattle area – the hub of Boeing's commercial plane manufacturing – and disrupt the company's supply chain.​

Boeing workers on strike for the 1st time in 16 years after 96% vote to reject contract

Boeing workers walked off the job early Friday to begin picketing outside the company's plants in Washington after voting to strike.

www.freep.com

The dei people who can't build a plane want a raise .....fire them all hire all the competent ones back

 

[22lcidw]

if trump did not see those questions coming he is too stupid to be president.

he may have had "the concept of a plan" for that debate, but kamala made him such her bitch that the haitians are trying to eat him.

We want to see Kamala not seeing those questions coming. We know she is too stupid to be President. Obama/Jarret/Rice/etc. most likely pushing the strings if elected. He has a plan. She is going to be Joe on steroids. She is nothing.

 

[22lcidw]

From a political standpoint, it will be interesting to see where the candidates line up on this one.

We know Harris will be behind the union.

Where will the blob land?

Some years ago, on the forum there were a couple people who work in the Seattle area Boeing factories lambasting the decision to build factories in a southern state. Talking about their quality work in Washing State. We see it 24 hours a day about that quality now. Unions are good. Until they are not. Protecting the bums destroys and spreads malaise. American corporations have left this nation in huge numbers. Run your Socialist system with the United States manufacturing and living off of everything within our borders. You cannot. For we live off of foreign slaves while we Americans revel in our self-importance on every issue thought of. You are not going to see the whole population toil for the motherland that we are turning into.

 

[pknopp]

Boeing needs to go bankrupt and allow someone else take over. Being as the nature of the business, perhaps no longer publicly traded so that Safety no longer takes a back seat to shareholder value.

 

[Picaro]

I copied and pasted those numbers. I didn't make them up.

They were Boeings numbers not Apple's.

You attempted to use 'statistics'. I prefer data.

You posted 'data' you didn't have any real clue about.

 

[Picaro]

Dig down to the nitty gritty... people need more money to live on today... no matter who you are you need more money to live than you did when Trump was president... and you made more too... maybe the answer is to elect Trump to give the economy a much needed boost... for union and non union working people...

He was working to bring the high productivity jobs back on shore. To do that we need to get rid of all the subsidies and 'Favored Nation' trade scams, especially NAFTA and the Pac Rim scams along with the tax freebies for the off shore money laundering. We also need to bust up a few monopolies and cartels while we're at it, and promote real competition and education reforms. We also need to deport 150 million or so and reduce demand on infrastructure. There is no 'labor shortage', never has been in our history.