Boehner cannot sue the President

[The Rabbi]

Just some guy who graduated from Harvard Law before becoming Dean of the prominently ranked University of California Irvine law school. Where did you go to school?


Dean Erwin Chemerinsky
Erwin Chemerinsky is the founding Dean and Distinguished Professor of Law, and Raymond Pryke Professor of First Amendment Law, at UC Irvine School of Law, with a joint appointment in Political Science.

Prior to assuming this position in 2008, he was the Alston and Bird Professor of Law and Political Science at Duke University from 2004-2008, and before that was a professor at the University of Southern California Law School from 1983-2004, including as the Sydney M. Irmas Professor of Public Interest Law, Legal Ethics, and Political Science.

He is the author of eight books, including The Case Against the Supreme Court to be published by Viking in 2014, and more than 200 law review articles. He frequently argues appellate cases, including in the United States Supreme Court. In January 2014, National Jurist magazine named Dean Chemerinsky as the most influential person in legal education in the United States. Dean Chemerinsky is a graduate of Northwestern University and Harvard Law School.

Who ******* cares ?? Odumbo was a so called "Professor" at Harvard and he's a walking Clusterfuck..

You must because you posted about him.

Obama taught at the University of Chicago Law School. His undergrad degree is from Columbia U (Ivy League) and his law degree is from Harvard where he was the editor of the Law Review. That may not sound like much to you, but to those who understand, it is the highest level of achievement one can obtain in law school. Just being ON the law review gets you jobs at the top ranking law firms in the country.

Go ahead and sneeze, but I suspect you barely made it through high school after reading your posts.

Amazing what you can achieve when you're the right color.

 

[Stephanie]

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Are there enough conservatives who, if they're fired up by the kind of thing, would be able to out-vote everyone who is turned off by this kind of thing?

I'm assuming the Tea Party feels the answer is "yes", right?

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what are you assuming?
what's the tea party have to do with this?
I couldn't make sense of your post

I think most of the people who are driving this kind of behavior can be found in the Tea Party, from street level to radio hosts like Limbaugh, Hannity and Levin, all passionate Tea Party sympathizers.

You can substitute any word for that, conservatives, constitutionalists, whatever. What I wonder is if those who support this behavior think it will be helpful at the ballot box, or whether they care.

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sorry dear, that's quite an assumption of the people in the Tea party
I agree with what the tea party stands for and I don't watch or listen to ANY of those you listed above...This is all on Boehner and he's an idiot who takes us for fools just like his good bud Obama does
I'd like to see Boehner go as much as I would Obama...

 

[Mac1958]

what are you assuming?
what's the tea party have to do with this?
I couldn't make sense of your post

I think most of the people who are driving this kind of behavior can be found in the Tea Party, from street level to radio hosts like Limbaugh, Hannity and Levin, all passionate Tea Party sympathizers.

You can substitute any word for that, conservatives, constitutionalists, whatever. What I wonder is if those who support this behavior think it will be helpful at the ballot box, or whether they care.

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Behavior?? Reigning in tyranny is a behavior? Having the courts take up Separation of Powers in order to remind this President who thinks he's a King that he cannot legislate from the Execute office with his mighty pen.. That is NOT a behavior.. that is democracy in action.

Call it what you will, that's just semantics.

Still no answer to my question: Is it helpful at the ballot box, or does it not matter to you if it is not?

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[LadyGunSlinger]

I think most of the people who are driving this kind of behavior can be found in the Tea Party, from street level to radio hosts like Limbaugh, Hannity and Levin, all passionate Tea Party sympathizers.

You can substitute any word for that, conservatives, constitutionalists, whatever. What I wonder is if those who support this behavior think it will be helpful at the ballot box, or whether they care.

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Behavior?? Reigning in tyranny is a behavior? Having the courts take up Separation of Powers in order to remind this President who thinks he's a King that he cannot legislate from the Execute office with his mighty pen.. That is NOT a behavior.. that is democracy in action.

Call it what you will, that's just semantics.

Still no answer to my question: Is it helpful at the ballot box, or does it not matter to you if it is not?

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I don't give a shit about the ballot box. This is about the Constitution and allowing a Rogue President to usurp it continually with no consequences..

 

[Intolerant]

Why doesn't he grow some KAHUNAS and start THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS!!! The Heck with the suing. This man needs to be removed from office period!!! What is he suing for and what will he get? This is nothing but a side show to distract us from another sinister piece of legislation these idiots in Washington will hit us with. Damn politicians use SOAP OPERA TACTICS to keep us blind.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Why doesn't he grow some KAHUNAS and start THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS!!! The Heck with the suing. This man needs to be removed from office period!!! What is he suing for and what will he get? This is nothing but a side show to distract us from another sinister piece of legislation these idiots in Washington will hit us with. Damn politicians use SOAP OPERA TACTICS to keep us blind.

I agree with you but we don't have the votes for Impeachment.. The only way to stop this tyrant is through the courts where the Legislative Branch will argue Separations Of Powers which it legally has the right to do. This President cannot bypass Congress and make laws, break laws..

 

[Stephanie]

Why doesn't he grow some KAHUNAS and start THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS!!! The Heck with the suing. This man needs to be removed from office period!!! What is he suing for and what will he get? This is nothing but a side show to distract us from another sinister piece of legislation these idiots in Washington will hit us with. Damn politicians use SOAP OPERA TACTICS to keep us blind.

Yep, I'd like to see HALF of the elected idiot we have in Congress go, and I mean both parties
We are paying them for this dog and pony show they are performing
we are paying the IRS to come after us as if we the enemy
the Epa is now making their own rules to bestow on us
the BLM my gawd we should be damn afraid after what they did to that Rancher
and they see us all as nobodies and they don't care what we think or say anymore

 

[PoliticalTorch]

Why Boehner Can?t Sue Obama

Boehner is just throwing red meet to the RW loons. They will eventually stop drooling over this GOP wet dream.

Well there you go! But no doubt the Conservatives will try to fool the public yet again by trying to make them believe that they were actually very busy working on something for this country. Pathetic bunch who all need to leave office ASAP!

 

[Stephanie]

Why Boehner Can?t Sue Obama

Boehner is just throwing red meet to the RW loons. They will eventually stop drooling over this GOP wet dream.

Well there you go! But no doubt the Conservatives will try to fool the public yet again by trying to make them believe that they were actually very busy working on something for this country. Pathetic bunch who all need to leave office ASAP!

shut up, you don't know what conservative citizens want...and you lap up this red meat to dump on your country men and women so who's the loon here
You're as boring and annoying as Rdean...He thinks he know all about what Republicans/Conservative are about

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Why Boehner Can?t Sue Obama

Boehner is just throwing red meet to the RW loons. They will eventually stop drooling over this GOP wet dream.

Well there you go! But no doubt the Conservatives will try to fool the public yet again by trying to make them believe that they were actually very busy working on something for this country. Pathetic bunch who all need to leave office ASAP!

There you go what????? Because Irkel said so? How about I produce Mervin from the Conservative side who argues the opposite? See how that works? Morons.

 

[healthmyths]

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Are there enough conservatives who, if they're fired up by the kind of thing, would be able to out-vote everyone who is turned off by this kind of thing?

I'm assuming the Tea Party feels the answer is "yes", right?

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I don't think ANY of us understand the totally technical, legalistic mechanism this law suit brings.
Obviously the court would then have the power to determine... BUT who will execute the court ruling?? OBAMA?
So that seems to be the common uninformed response.

At the federal level, Article II of the United States Constitution (Section 4) states that
"The President,
Vice President,
and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed
from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors."

The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments.
The removal of impeached officials is automatic upon conviction in the Senate.
In Nixon v. United States (1993), the Supreme Court determined that the federal judiciary cannot review such proceedings.
Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So Cavutto et.al. that are NOT lawyers may not know the legalistic aspects that Bachmann knows!!!

 

[PoliticalTorch]

Why Boehner Can?t Sue Obama

Boehner is just throwing red meet to the RW loons. They will eventually stop drooling over this GOP wet dream.

Well there you go! But no doubt the Conservatives will try to fool the public yet again by trying to make them believe that they were actually very busy working on something for this country. Pathetic bunch who all need to leave office ASAP!

shut up, you don't know what conservative citizens want...and you lap up this red meat to dump on your country men and women so who's the loon here
You're as boring and annoying as Rdean...He thinks he know all about what Republicans/Conservative are about

Hey Staph germs! Quit spreading them already.

 

[Stephanie]

Why Boehner Can?t Sue Obama

Boehner is just throwing red meet to the RW loons. They will eventually stop drooling over this GOP wet dream.

Well there you go! But no doubt the Conservatives will try to fool the public yet again by trying to make them believe that they were actually very busy working on something for this country. Pathetic bunch who all need to leave office ASAP!

There you go what????? Because Irkel said so? How about I produce Mervin from the Conservative side who argues the opposite? See how that works? Morons.

he's a typical lib/leftie
not happy unless he's spewing out some dumb shit about others
I think he just like to see himself post and then admires how brilliant he is

 

[BobPlumb]

In order for the house of Reps to sue they must have standing which is to say that there has been demonstratable harm done to the institution. Here is one way I beleive that the House of Representatives, which is one house of congress, has standing.

Obama, by user of some executive orders, has taken legislative power as defined by the constitution from congress. Suppose a bill is passed and signed into law by the president that states that mandates that all people SHALL have health insurance by April 1, 2013 in order to avoid a $1000 tax for not having insurance. If the president uses his pen to write an executive order to delay the mandate from April 1, 2014 , then he has taken power that belongs to congress. If there is a issue with being able to meet the 2014 mandate date, the president should request that congress change that date. The power is law passed by congress and signed by the president constitutionally has more power than excutive orders from the president. It is okay for a president to issue excutive orders, but the excutive orders should be such that they excute the laws passed by congress, not violate them. If the president can in effect change a law by excutive order, we really don't need a congress because the president can simply order whatever he sees fit.

To make a long story short, the house of representives should have standing to sue the excutive brance (the president) because the president has taken legistive power from the congress by issuing excutive orders that violate the proper execution of laws passed by the congress.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

As outlined in the Constitution of the United States, Separation of Powers ; The Executive Branch:
Executive power is vested, with exceptions and qualifications,[1] in the President. By law (Section 2.) the president becomes the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy, Militia of several states when called into service, has power to make treaties and appointments to office "with the Advice and Consent of the Senate," receive Ambassadors and Public Ministers, and "take care that the laws be faithfully executed" (Section 3.) By using these words, the Constitution does not require the president to personally enforce the law; rather, officers subordinate to the president may perform such duties. The Constitution empowers the president to ensure the faithful execution of the laws made by Congress. Congress may itself terminate such appointments, by impeachment, and restrict the president. The president's responsibility is to execute whatever instructions he is given by the Congress. Bodies such as the War Claims Commission, the Interstate Commerce Commission and the Federal Trade Commission—all quasi-judicial—often have direct Congressional oversight.


NO WHERE does the Constitution allow this President to write laws, change laws, break laws.

 

[jknowgood]

Just some guy who graduated from Harvard Law before becoming Dean of the prominently ranked University of California Irvine law school. Where did you go to school?


Dean Erwin Chemerinsky
Erwin Chemerinsky is the founding Dean and Distinguished Professor of Law, and Raymond Pryke Professor of First Amendment Law, at UC Irvine School of Law, with a joint appointment in Political Science.

Prior to assuming this position in 2008, he was the Alston and Bird Professor of Law and Political Science at Duke University from 2004-2008, and before that was a professor at the University of Southern California Law School from 1983-2004, including as the Sydney M. Irmas Professor of Public Interest Law, Legal Ethics, and Political Science.

He is the author of eight books, including The Case Against the Supreme Court to be published by Viking in 2014, and more than 200 law review articles. He frequently argues appellate cases, including in the United States Supreme Court. In January 2014, National Jurist magazine named Dean Chemerinsky as the most influential person in legal education in the United States. Dean Chemerinsky is a graduate of Northwestern University and Harvard Law School.

Who ******* cares ?? Odumbo was a so called "Professor" at Harvard and he's a walking Clusterfuck..

You must because you posted about him.

Obama taught at the University of Chicago Law School. His undergrad degree is from Columbia U (Ivy League) and his law degree is from Harvard where he was the editor of the Law Review. That may not sound like much to you, but to those who understand, it is the highest level of achievement one can obtain in law school. Just being ON the law review gets you jobs at the top ranking law firms in the country.

Go ahead and sneeze, but I suspect you barely made it through high school after reading your posts.

That's why Obama sealed his college records, because he did so good? He was a druggie during those days. Try again.

 

[peach174]

This is the Republican Incumbents move and it's stupid Political Kabuki Theater just like the Incumbent Democrats do all the time. Dem's are just better at it because they have done it for a very, very long time.

The Republican's have always been good a shooting themselves in the foot and here they go again.
They should cut the funding on the Executive orders, but they think that would hurt them this fall in the elections.
Instead they do this, which will harm them more, rather than doing what is right by getting a backbone and cutting his money off.

We the people need to vote the Incumbents out of both parties.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

The president's responsibility is to execute whatever instructions he is given by the Congress

Congress passed laws regarding Illegal Immigration.. Has this President executed that law?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

On recess appts


After digging through constitutional history and reading up on the framers, the judges said it’s apparent the founding fathers intended for the president only to be able to use his recess appointment powers when the Senate was gone for a long period of time, not the brief breaks Congress regularly takes for holidays or weekends.


The founding document says the president may use his powers to fill “all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate.”


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[Stephanie]

This is the Republican Incumbents move and it's stupid Political Kabuki Theater just like the Incumbent Democrats do all the time. Dem's are just better at it because they have done it for a very, very long time.

The Republican's have always been good a shooting themselves in the foot and here they go again.
They should cut the funding on the Executive orders, but they think that would hurt them this fall in the elections.
Instead they do this, which will harm them more, rather than doing what is right by getting a backbone and cutting his money off.

We the people need to vote the Incumbents out of both parties.

agreed
but the left see no problems with their elected idiots and these people in Congress know this...so we're pretty much screwed and at their mercy right now and maybe forever
they fell for Obama and his transformation BS so I think they'll fall for anything

Boehner throws this out so what does the left do
Go after Conservatives...it's all hopeless