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James Price
A major factor in the success of the civil rights movement was the lack of black violence.
What happened is back in the 60's in civil rights era is that whites did really obvious things. They put up signs that said whites only.
This got whites into sh*t.
The 14th Amendment doesn't allow for anyone to be treated differently because of their race. So after court losses, demo's and riots, white people got the message : If you're going to be a racist, better find a way to do it with a smile on your face.
So now whites still get the plum jobs, double the pay, and a seat in the front of the bus to happiness and success.
White supremacists have rigged the system from birth, guaranteeing that black people will go to the worst schools, thus preventing us from admission to the best colleges, so all your left with black people making your caffe lattes and big macs and picking up your trash.
Oh, sure, a few slip by
But they pay an extra tariff - The black doc driving his BMW gets pulled over by the cops; the black broker is the first to be laid off because of "seniority".
White supremacists deserve an award for this. They love to say "We are an equal opportunity employer" it's good for a laugh because you know there's no way a black person is going to get the job and they always make sure they put their lone black employee up at the front reception desk so they can say, "See - we don't discriminate. We hire black people !!"
James Price
More excuses for typical black behavior. Leave it to a black person to think $2 billion dollars worth of damages and 30 deaths is some sort of optical illusion.
What you want is peace and quiet. Right ? As I said before even when black people take a knee you get FOX News commentators complaining that they just wanted to sit around and watch the game, and eat pizza and chips
In other words, people like you don’t want to be bothered with real life.
What offends you is that black people are forcing whites to take a long hard look in the national mirror. Your narrative is being challenged. But you want peace and quiet. But until there is justice, you deserve neither.
James Price
It comes as no surprise that hair cuts and hygiene, in general, are low on the average blacks priority list.
When a white supremacist feels he's losing that's when the jokes and trolling comes.
James Price
For blacks, it's only a tragedy if they get caught breaking the law or the welfare office is closed.
As I say when white a white supremacist feels he's losing that's when the jokes and trolling comes. It basically means they've ran out knowledge. It's a surrender and they try to turn the debate into a pushing and shoving contest.
James Price
You're the only one saying people think this shit is okay,
It is OK to riot if your white. I find it funny when those who have rarely been the targets of organized police gangsterism start lecturing those who have.
And I've not even talked about the structural rioting that white supremacists do. What you refer to as a “ghettos” were created, and not by the people who live in them. They were designed as holding pens to contain black people.
Generations of housing discrimination created them, as did decade after decade of white riots against black people whenever we would move into white neighbourhoods.
And all of that is rioting too. You don't need to throw a molly through a window when you can knock down the building using a bulldozer with public money. Zoning laws, redlining, predatory lending, stop-and-frisk: all are white violence, they are all white rioting.
And at the same time that black housing was being destroyed, millions of white families were getting government-guaranteed loans (through the FHA and VA loan programs) that were almost entirely off-limits to black people and which allowed whites to hustle it out to the suburbs where only they were allowed to go.
But whites can know nothing about any of that and still be called educated.
James Price
and you're compare a few isolated incidents to HUNDREDS of related riots. Give me a fucking break.
It's always a few isolated incidents with you. I guess whites rioting in the wake of Final Four games, or the Pumpkin Festival or because of $10 veggie burritos at Woodstock ’99, and because there weren’t enough Porta-Potties after the Limp Bizkit set were also isolated incidents
Whites did it when they couldn’t get enough beer at the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake, and because Penn State fired Joe Paterno. Whites did it because a “kegs and eggs” riot sounds like a good thing to do. They were also isolated incidents too I guess.
The idea that Black folks are quick to riot when injustice happens is false. If that were true, the country would have been burned down years ago. Given the history, Black people in this country have been amazingly restrained.
James Price
And you have the gall to act like thousands of black people looting TV's, shoes, bongs, and a whole bunch of other shit were doing it to honor a career criminal propped up as a martyr.
I agree with riots. I agree with the burning. Burn it all down. I don't care.
Shoe me one example in human history of apeaceful freedom struggle or revolution ?
In military science you don't just blow up the train, you blow up the track the trains runs on. You attacks the dorm they sleep at. You attack everything. You're supposed to piss off your enemy in war. You supposed to upset him. You're supposed to anger him. Your supposed to rile him. That's the point of war.
And let's be clear what the white man has done is doing to the black man for the past three hundred years has been an act of war.
You can go to any library any bookstore and there are plenty of books on racism. Black (and white people) have written tons of books on racism.
Tons of films on racism.
Tons of studies on racism.
Tons of surveys on racism.
Tons of documentaries on racism
Tons of poems on racism
Tons of blogs on racism
Tons of speakers on racism
Tons of websites on racism
Black people have tried to do it the nice way but there is no reasoning with white supremacist like you. Because you start off from the belief that there is something wrong with black people and then all your opinions flow from that belief
James Price
The only reason the recent riots were tolerated is that police stood down at the behest of city officials.
That's because they can't do nothing. When they are outnumbered 100 to 1.
James Price
Officials ALLOWED blacks to vent over what they themselves perceived as an injustice, but if blacks tried to riot non-stop, 24/7 for no good reason, they'd get slapped down.
It wasn't just black people. It was non black people too. Thousands. So what are they going to do ?
Send in the army or military to kill them ? OK. Let's break that down.
There is no shortage of real veterans from black urban background. Yes the most disproportionately represented group come from white exurban and rural areas.
Yes white supremacists have always Joined the military, to learn to fight in their little Rahowa thing. The flipside to that, is if they do start up their race war, you'll find there's a lot of blk ppl who've had that same training, as well as combat experience and they unlikely to join in on killing black people.
Then you're going to have convince the Asian - Latino soldiers to kill their own race of people as well. Then you're going to have to do the same with whites soldiers and this is going to have to green lighted by helluva lotta of people.
Check your history. You've already tried to wipe blk ppl out but we are still here.
White supremacists never expected us to last this long and grow stronger despite all the drugs, war, molestation, slavery, guns, police brutality, AIDS, glass ceilings, minstrel shows/ media destruction/ music destruction, prison systems, killings of our boys and girls, poison water/ food supply, Katrina, Haiti
You are baffled at our resilience and cannot come to terms with it. If they were placed in our situation, any of them, they would have died off centuries ago.
James Price
CONSTANTLY? There were a total of 22 unarmed black people that were shot by police last year,
Asking white supremacist in the police for facts about black people is like asking Ronald McDonald for stats about vegetarians
James Price
which is less than half the number of black homicides that were reported in Chicago LAST MONTH ALONE, so give me a fucking break.
And the homicides are done by a lot of white supremacist cops.
Just last month Chicago Police Officers Were Sentenced For their involvement in criminal activities including 30 murders. This is FURTHER proof that many "gang murders" in Chicago are done by undercover cops and the white supremacists connected to them.
There are no places you can walk in Chicago or go without being on tape. None. It's probably the most heavily surveillanced city in the world.
MarathonMike does this. Highlights black murders in Chicago but then in every murder there no arrests made ? Charges made ? Leads they have ?
I've been to Rogers Park, North Side. Roscoe Village, Northwest Side. Portage Park (Portage Park, Six Corners), Central, Near North, and Near South Side.
And it's nothing to do with no snitch code.
No snitch code goes out the window when children are being killed. You saw how fast the black community came forward in the murder of 9 year Tyshawn Lee ?
Even a jailhouse informant, a convicted felon came forward and turned the killer in.
Because no one standing for the killing of kids.
There is no way possible for all that killing to go on without some dirty cops and white supremacists being involved.
Most of these kids can barely afford a burger from McDonald’s. How can can they afford these guns? The guns they have can’t even be barely legally, not only that, there are hardly any gun shops in Chicago.
Look at the so called shooting at a funeral in Chicago last year were 12 people were shot
Funerals are considered off limits when it comes to gang violence.
And once again they say "please come forward or submit a tip anonymously".
The police can't find these fellas ? Really ? The white man can tell you the precise location of a star million of light years away but he can't find some guys that do a drive by of funeral ?
If you believe that then there really is no hope for you.
Cops in Chicago are some of the biggest thugs n that city. How many times have we heard about Black Op sites n straight up criminal behavior of the CPD ?
James Price
If you want to talk about "constantly" ... black people are CONSTANTLY killing EACH OTHER. White people my ass. You motherfuckers are your own worst enemy.
Are more black people killed by black people than by the police ?
Yes. You are correct.
But guess what ?
You would have been correct 100 years ago.
But would that justified the lynching and hangings from the Klan ?
No.
If I said, “This pack of wolves needs to wait until NONE of the wolves are injured before they hunt for food” would be illogical. What’s to stop the uninjured wolves from hunting for food for the pack while the injured wolves are recovering?
In one case you are talking about a single entity, in the other you are talking about a group. Black people are a group not a single monolith.
Saying, Black people need to do A before they can do B is stupid. Why can’t blk ppl do both? The sequential nature of the argument is false. You don’t have to do one BEFORE you do the other.
While some are addressing one problem, other’s can be addressing another.
But I guess white people are the only people in America, that can be outraged about more than one problem, within their own racial group
Because Bin Laden killed those mainly white people in Twin Towers I didn't hear anyone say "Well you know, whites kill more whites than muslim terrorists do"
The black on black crime figure will always be higher that white on black. Why ? Because those are the people you live around.
You're argument is as stupid as me telling a black woman with breast cancer, not worry about it because Lung Cancer is the biggest cancer killer.
The police are held to a higher standard. Because if you have the power to kill me, then you better believe I'm gonna hold you to a higher standard.
It's the same way a teacher can't be late often for their class and then turn around and say "Well some of you are late too"
With great power comes greater responsibility, they are the rule
The argument falls on its face on the grounds mere stupidity.
The discussion is about black people in general, not black people that belong to any specific group, so stop trying to shift the fucking goalposts.
@Jsmes Price
If only blacks WOULD imitate the likes of Martin Luther King.
And get killed by white man ?
OK. Got it.
If whites were just so loving to MLK then why did the the FBI write an anonymous letter to him encouraging him to kill himself ?
The FBI whose leader at the time MLK was alive (J Edgar Hoover) was a well known cross dressing gay man and who hated blacks and whose lover was one of his top FBI Agents.
White people hated Martin Luther King. He was seen as this loud mouth, uppity, rabble-rousing, trouble-making, southern baptist Negro preacher who obviously didn’t know his place and that's why they unleashed dogs, billy clubs, water hoses, jails on the civil righters.
The truth is always invisible to guys like you.
Even when you read Gallup polls from the 1960's.
Most whites thought the situation of black Americans was mostly their own fault and white racism wasn't a thing and black children had just as good a chance as white children to get a good education and blacks had an equal or better opportunity for a good education than whites did.
A major factor in the success of the civil rights movement was the lack of black violence.
What happened is back in the 60's in civil rights era is that whites did really obvious things. They put up signs that said whites only.
This got whites into sh*t.
The 14th Amendment doesn't allow for anyone to be treated differently because of their race. So after court losses, demo's and riots, white people got the message : If you're going to be a racist, better find a way to do it with a smile on your face.
So now whites still get the plum jobs, double the pay, and a seat in the front of the bus to happiness and success.
White supremacists have rigged the system from birth, guaranteeing that black people will go to the worst schools, thus preventing us from admission to the best colleges, so all your left with black people making your caffe lattes and big macs and picking up your trash.
Oh, sure, a few slip by
But they pay an extra tariff - The black doc driving his BMW gets pulled over by the cops; the black broker is the first to be laid off because of "seniority".
White supremacists deserve an award for this. They love to say "We are an equal opportunity employer" it's good for a laugh because you know there's no way a black person is going to get the job and they always make sure they put their lone black employee up at the front reception desk so they can say, "See - we don't discriminate. We hire black people !!"
James Price
More excuses for typical black behavior. Leave it to a black person to think $2 billion dollars worth of damages and 30 deaths is some sort of optical illusion.
What you want is peace and quiet. Right ? As I said before even when black people take a knee you get FOX News commentators complaining that they just wanted to sit around and watch the game, and eat pizza and chips
In other words, people like you don’t want to be bothered with real life.
What offends you is that black people are forcing whites to take a long hard look in the national mirror. Your narrative is being challenged. But you want peace and quiet. But until there is justice, you deserve neither.
James Price
It comes as no surprise that hair cuts and hygiene, in general, are low on the average blacks priority list.
When a white supremacist feels he's losing that's when the jokes and trolling comes.
James Price
For blacks, it's only a tragedy if they get caught breaking the law or the welfare office is closed.
As I say when white a white supremacist feels he's losing that's when the jokes and trolling comes. It basically means they've ran out knowledge. It's a surrender and they try to turn the debate into a pushing and shoving contest.
James Price
You're the only one saying people think this shit is okay,
It is OK to riot if your white. I find it funny when those who have rarely been the targets of organized police gangsterism start lecturing those who have.
And I've not even talked about the structural rioting that white supremacists do. What you refer to as a “ghettos” were created, and not by the people who live in them. They were designed as holding pens to contain black people.
Generations of housing discrimination created them, as did decade after decade of white riots against black people whenever we would move into white neighbourhoods.
And all of that is rioting too. You don't need to throw a molly through a window when you can knock down the building using a bulldozer with public money. Zoning laws, redlining, predatory lending, stop-and-frisk: all are white violence, they are all white rioting.
And at the same time that black housing was being destroyed, millions of white families were getting government-guaranteed loans (through the FHA and VA loan programs) that were almost entirely off-limits to black people and which allowed whites to hustle it out to the suburbs where only they were allowed to go.
But whites can know nothing about any of that and still be called educated.
James Price
and you're compare a few isolated incidents to HUNDREDS of related riots. Give me a fucking break.
It's always a few isolated incidents with you. I guess whites rioting in the wake of Final Four games, or the Pumpkin Festival or because of $10 veggie burritos at Woodstock ’99, and because there weren’t enough Porta-Potties after the Limp Bizkit set were also isolated incidents
Whites did it when they couldn’t get enough beer at the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake, and because Penn State fired Joe Paterno. Whites did it because a “kegs and eggs” riot sounds like a good thing to do. They were also isolated incidents too I guess.
The idea that Black folks are quick to riot when injustice happens is false. If that were true, the country would have been burned down years ago. Given the history, Black people in this country have been amazingly restrained.
James Price
And you have the gall to act like thousands of black people looting TV's, shoes, bongs, and a whole bunch of other shit were doing it to honor a career criminal propped up as a martyr.
I agree with riots. I agree with the burning. Burn it all down. I don't care.
Shoe me one example in human history of apeaceful freedom struggle or revolution ?
- The American Revolution. That revolution was for what ? Freedom. How was it carried out ? Bloodshed.
- The French Revolution. That revolution was for what ? Freedom. How was it carried out ? Bloodshed.
- The end to apartheid. The revolution was for what ? Freedom. How was it carried out ? Bloodshed.
- The troubles in Ireland. That revolution was for what ? Freedom. How was it carried out ? Bloodshed.
- The breakup of old soviet union. That revolution was for what ? Freedom. How was it carried out ? Bloodshed.
In military science you don't just blow up the train, you blow up the track the trains runs on. You attacks the dorm they sleep at. You attack everything. You're supposed to piss off your enemy in war. You supposed to upset him. You're supposed to anger him. Your supposed to rile him. That's the point of war.
And let's be clear what the white man has done is doing to the black man for the past three hundred years has been an act of war.
You can go to any library any bookstore and there are plenty of books on racism. Black (and white people) have written tons of books on racism.
Tons of films on racism.
Tons of studies on racism.
Tons of surveys on racism.
Tons of documentaries on racism
Tons of poems on racism
Tons of blogs on racism
Tons of speakers on racism
Tons of websites on racism
Black people have tried to do it the nice way but there is no reasoning with white supremacist like you. Because you start off from the belief that there is something wrong with black people and then all your opinions flow from that belief
James Price
The only reason the recent riots were tolerated is that police stood down at the behest of city officials.
That's because they can't do nothing. When they are outnumbered 100 to 1.
James Price
Officials ALLOWED blacks to vent over what they themselves perceived as an injustice, but if blacks tried to riot non-stop, 24/7 for no good reason, they'd get slapped down.
It wasn't just black people. It was non black people too. Thousands. So what are they going to do ?
Send in the army or military to kill them ? OK. Let's break that down.
There is no shortage of real veterans from black urban background. Yes the most disproportionately represented group come from white exurban and rural areas.
Yes white supremacists have always Joined the military, to learn to fight in their little Rahowa thing. The flipside to that, is if they do start up their race war, you'll find there's a lot of blk ppl who've had that same training, as well as combat experience and they unlikely to join in on killing black people.
Then you're going to have convince the Asian - Latino soldiers to kill their own race of people as well. Then you're going to have to do the same with whites soldiers and this is going to have to green lighted by helluva lotta of people.
Check your history. You've already tried to wipe blk ppl out but we are still here.
White supremacists never expected us to last this long and grow stronger despite all the drugs, war, molestation, slavery, guns, police brutality, AIDS, glass ceilings, minstrel shows/ media destruction/ music destruction, prison systems, killings of our boys and girls, poison water/ food supply, Katrina, Haiti
You are baffled at our resilience and cannot come to terms with it. If they were placed in our situation, any of them, they would have died off centuries ago.
James Price
CONSTANTLY? There were a total of 22 unarmed black people that were shot by police last year,
Asking white supremacist in the police for facts about black people is like asking Ronald McDonald for stats about vegetarians
James Price
which is less than half the number of black homicides that were reported in Chicago LAST MONTH ALONE, so give me a fucking break.
And the homicides are done by a lot of white supremacist cops.
Just last month Chicago Police Officers Were Sentenced For their involvement in criminal activities including 30 murders. This is FURTHER proof that many "gang murders" in Chicago are done by undercover cops and the white supremacists connected to them.
There are no places you can walk in Chicago or go without being on tape. None. It's probably the most heavily surveillanced city in the world.
MarathonMike does this. Highlights black murders in Chicago but then in every murder there no arrests made ? Charges made ? Leads they have ?
I've been to Rogers Park, North Side. Roscoe Village, Northwest Side. Portage Park (Portage Park, Six Corners), Central, Near North, and Near South Side.
And it's nothing to do with no snitch code.
No snitch code goes out the window when children are being killed. You saw how fast the black community came forward in the murder of 9 year Tyshawn Lee ?
Even a jailhouse informant, a convicted felon came forward and turned the killer in.
Because no one standing for the killing of kids.
There is no way possible for all that killing to go on without some dirty cops and white supremacists being involved.
Most of these kids can barely afford a burger from McDonald’s. How can can they afford these guns? The guns they have can’t even be barely legally, not only that, there are hardly any gun shops in Chicago.
Look at the so called shooting at a funeral in Chicago last year were 12 people were shot
Funerals are considered off limits when it comes to gang violence.
And once again they say "please come forward or submit a tip anonymously".
The police can't find these fellas ? Really ? The white man can tell you the precise location of a star million of light years away but he can't find some guys that do a drive by of funeral ?
If you believe that then there really is no hope for you.
Cops in Chicago are some of the biggest thugs n that city. How many times have we heard about Black Op sites n straight up criminal behavior of the CPD ?
James Price
If you want to talk about "constantly" ... black people are CONSTANTLY killing EACH OTHER. White people my ass. You motherfuckers are your own worst enemy.
Are more black people killed by black people than by the police ?
Yes. You are correct.
But guess what ?
You would have been correct 100 years ago.
But would that justified the lynching and hangings from the Klan ?
No.
If I said, “This pack of wolves needs to wait until NONE of the wolves are injured before they hunt for food” would be illogical. What’s to stop the uninjured wolves from hunting for food for the pack while the injured wolves are recovering?
In one case you are talking about a single entity, in the other you are talking about a group. Black people are a group not a single monolith.
Saying, Black people need to do A before they can do B is stupid. Why can’t blk ppl do both? The sequential nature of the argument is false. You don’t have to do one BEFORE you do the other.
While some are addressing one problem, other’s can be addressing another.
But I guess white people are the only people in America, that can be outraged about more than one problem, within their own racial group
Because Bin Laden killed those mainly white people in Twin Towers I didn't hear anyone say "Well you know, whites kill more whites than muslim terrorists do"
The black on black crime figure will always be higher that white on black. Why ? Because those are the people you live around.
You're argument is as stupid as me telling a black woman with breast cancer, not worry about it because Lung Cancer is the biggest cancer killer.
The police are held to a higher standard. Because if you have the power to kill me, then you better believe I'm gonna hold you to a higher standard.
It's the same way a teacher can't be late often for their class and then turn around and say "Well some of you are late too"
With great power comes greater responsibility, they are the rule
The argument falls on its face on the grounds mere stupidity.
The discussion is about black people in general, not black people that belong to any specific group, so stop trying to shift the fucking goalposts.
@Jsmes Price
If only blacks WOULD imitate the likes of Martin Luther King.
And get killed by white man ?
OK. Got it.
If whites were just so loving to MLK then why did the the FBI write an anonymous letter to him encouraging him to kill himself ?
The FBI whose leader at the time MLK was alive (J Edgar Hoover) was a well known cross dressing gay man and who hated blacks and whose lover was one of his top FBI Agents.
White people hated Martin Luther King. He was seen as this loud mouth, uppity, rabble-rousing, trouble-making, southern baptist Negro preacher who obviously didn’t know his place and that's why they unleashed dogs, billy clubs, water hoses, jails on the civil righters.
The truth is always invisible to guys like you.
Even when you read Gallup polls from the 1960's.
Most whites thought the situation of black Americans was mostly their own fault and white racism wasn't a thing and black children had just as good a chance as white children to get a good education and blacks had an equal or better opportunity for a good education than whites did.
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