progressive hunter
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about you saying "surrender" your license,, I think most of them say "present"In California you are required to "identify yourself" when requested by an officer, that can be a simple declaration " I am John Doe and I live at 123 ABC street". If you are operating a motor vehicle you are required to surrender your driver's license upon request. I had a couple of interesting examples of that. When I was in college, I was pulled over when riding a bicycle and the cop wrote me for refusing to produce a license. (I didn't have it with me) I beat that one in court because you aren't required to have a license to operate a bicycle. The other was when I was in the Army Reserves, I was a passenger and ranking person in Army sedan. The driver was pulled over by the CHP for speeding. I instructed him NOT to provide his civilian license and to let me handle the situation. I greeted the officer and after some fairly acrimonious discussion, I requested he show me his abstract of the vehicle code. Then I showed him that military personnel, on active duty weren't even required to have civilian licenses, let alone produce them. I also advised him that as the vehicle commander any ticket should be written to me as I was responsible for the operation of the vehicle. After some more discussion and realizing that no matter what he did he wasn't going to be able to write anyone a ticket that would hold up in court (or even be processed by the system as military DLs have different number configurations than civilian ones) he decided to laugh and let us go. He even thanked me for showing that passage in the motor vehicle code. Of course, during this entire thing, I was exceptionally courteous and pleasant despite his frustration. Getting hostile towards any cop is a losing proposition.
I have seen in some states it says that and seen videos of people just holding it up against the window and the cop reading or taking a picture and getting away with it,,
its all about the exact wording,,
and some states say you only have to ID after being lawfully arrested,,
this guy goes into detail on the laws in question on the videos and shows the actual laws
pretty interesting,,