black pride vs white pride

[Nosmo King]

The double standards are fuckin pathetic.
A black person proud to be black is an encouragement. A white person proud to be white is a goddamn NAZI.
Its bullshit. And racist as fuck.

The white person's predecessors repressed freedoms for the black person's predecessors. The white person's "white pride" is pride of being the repressor class. The black person's "black pride" is the pride of being the survivor of white repression.

Who is more noble? The repressor the repressed?

Yep. white people have NEVER been repressed or held in slavery.
Dumbfuck

If you want to make an equivalent case for white repression and slavery in this country, be my guest.

Whites were enslaved in this country but not because they were white. Repressed? Never.

vandal kingdom, Reconquista, destruction of the Byzantine empire and the mongol invasions of the Slavic people.
Nice try

The operative words are "in this country". A swing and a miss.

 

[Nosmo King]

The white person's predecessors repressed freedoms for the black person's predecessors. The white person's "white pride" is pride of being the repressor class. The black person's "black pride" is the pride of being the survivor of white repression.

Who is more noble? The repressor the repressed?

Is that right, you racist fuck?

I hold no particular pride over the tone of my skin. Should another, it is irrelevant to me.

BUT you racist scum demand that one should be proud of their skin and another be ashamed.

Tell you what you race baiting pimp, you point to the person in this forum who has had black slaves and I will agree that they should be ashamed. Not for their skin color, but for their acts.

Now racist bigots like you, who attack purely on the skin color of others should be just as ashamed, I know that I'm ashamed that you are an American, and that there are other Americans who share your diseased thinking.

Your response is curious and revealing. I am white, but it's not my complexion I'm proud of, it's my nation I'm proud of. And I don't think it's my place as a white man to point out white pride. What has my complexion have to do with anything other than point out that it was white folks who held black folks first as slaves and I hen as a repressed class in this nation. Whiteness for whiteness' sake is a sign of a lost and confused race who believed fervently that blackness was a sign of inferiority. Of that attitude, I am ashamed.

Stirring that pot of shame accomplishes nothing good.

It is interesting that you reject the idea that as a white person you should point out anything that Whites should be proud of

AND THEN immediately, as a white person, point out something wrong that White People did.


Indeed, you have answered your own question.

Our culture is such, now, that Whites are conditioned to NOT feel pride in our culture and heritage and our massive accomplishments, but instead to focus on the negatives and to feel shame.

It is modern liberalism that is thus "stirring the pot of shame."

This is unhealthy for a number of reasons.

The obvious solution is to reject being held responsible for past injustices and to be proud of past accomplishments.

For being proud of past accomplishments is completely harmless,

while allowing yourself to be held responsible for past sins often carries a very high price.

A parochial point of view. I am proud of the accomplishments of my countrymen. Space exploration, blood transfusions, splitting the atom and developing the peanut and potato. Inventing jazz music, bourbon liquor, the game of baseball and drafting the constitution are among our greatest accomplishments. Some were made by white Americans, others were made by Black Americans. But I do not celebrate the accomplishments of White Americans exclusively, nor do I celebrate the great accomplishments of Black Americans exclusively.

Segregation of ideas is as egregious as segregation by race.

 

[Nosmo King]

The white person's predecessors repressed freedoms for the black person's predecessors. The white person's "white pride" is pride of being the repressor class. The black person's "black pride" is the pride of being the survivor of white repression.

Who is more noble? The repressor the repressed?

You're an idiot. My family hasn't owned slaves unless it was back in Roman days, may have been slaves themselves. Many blacks in the US (about 40% last I heard) do not come from North American slaves. You exemplify the problem and why so many are stuck on stupid, they think they are a race instead of a person.

Slavery was part of the repression. But have you forgotten about the events from Jim Crow through Ferguson? There's still a bunch of repression to answer for.

 

[Nosmo King]

Your response is curious and revealing. I am white,

I don't give a fuck what color you are, you are a race baiting pimp.

You judge others on the color of their skin, that is not my way.

I judge others on their character, and let's face it, you have none.

but it's not my complexion I'm proud of, it's my nation I'm proud of. And I don't think it's my place as a white man to point out white pride. What has my complexion have to do with anything other than point out that it was white folks who held black folks first as slaves and I hen as a repressed class in this nation. Whiteness for whiteness' sake is a sign of a lost and confused race who believed fervently that blackness was a sign of inferiority. Of that attitude, I am ashamed.

Stirring that pot of shame accomplishes nothing good.

But blackness for blackness sake is sign of superiority?

ROFL

Racist fuck.

Cancer patients see cancer everywhere. Rape victims live in fear of a repeated attack. Racists see the world through a skewed racist lens. You throw the racist label on me for nothing other than that's you projection and deep personal problem.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Cancer patients see cancer everywhere. Rape victims live in fear of a repeated attack. Racists see the world through a skewed racist lens. You throw the racist label on me for nothing other than that's you projection and deep personal problem.

Prior to the rise of the Obama identity politics, racism in this nation was all but gone.

You of the hate filled left have pimped racism to the point it is destroying this nation, just as Obama wants.

Only a fool fails to see the rise of evil when it is as blatant as Germany 1928, or the Obama regime in 2016.

Those who remain silent in the face of what your filthy party is doing are complicit in evil.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Black pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Black pride is a movement encouraging people to take pride in being black to various degrees.
The slogan has been used in the United States by African Americans to celebrate heritage and personal pride.


White pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White pride is a slogan primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal their racist or racialist viewpoints
Justin J. Moritz wrote that he tried to trademark the phrase "White Pride Country Wide" but it was denied for being offensive, despite that phrases like "Black Pride" and "Black Power" were trademarked

WTF?

As usual, with conservatives it's always about race and dividing America.

 

[Asclepias]

Cancer patients see cancer everywhere. Rape victims live in fear of a repeated attack. Racists see the world through a skewed racist lens. You throw the racist label on me for nothing other than that's you projection and deep personal problem.

Prior to the rise of the Obama identity politics, racism in this nation was all but gone.

You of the hate filled left have pimped racism to the point it is destroying this nation, just as Obama wants.

Only a fool fails to see the rise of evil when it is as blatant as Germany 1928, or the Obama regime in 2016.

Those who remain silent in the face of what your filthy party is doing are complicit in evil.

You dumb ass. Racism in this country was never gone. You just got more active after a Black president was elected.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Black pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Black pride is a movement encouraging people to take pride in being black to various degrees.
The slogan has been used in the United States by African Americans to celebrate heritage and personal pride.


White pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White pride is a slogan primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal their racist or racialist viewpoints
Justin J. Moritz wrote that he tried to trademark the phrase "White Pride Country Wide" but it was denied for being offensive, despite that phrases like "Black Pride" and "Black Power" were trademarked

WTF?

That this has to be explained to you and others on the right comes as no surprise.

Context.

It concerns context.

Black pride exists in the context of racism and discrimination – where it is used as a countermeasure to that racism and discrimination against African-Americans.

White pride exists on the context of preserving and propagating racism and discrimination, to create a hostile environment for African-Americans, and to intimidate.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That this has to be explained to you and others on the right comes as no surprise.

Context.

It concerns context.

Black pride exists in the context of racism and discrimination – where it is used as a countermeasure to that racism and discrimination against African-Americans.

White pride exists on the context of preserving and propagating racism and discrimination, to create a hostile environment for African-Americans, and to intimidate.

So it's kind of like the three fifths argument? Reality is altered by the skin color of those in question.

 

[Asclepias]

That this has to be explained to you and others on the right comes as no surprise.

Context.

It concerns context.

Black pride exists in the context of racism and discrimination – where it is used as a countermeasure to that racism and discrimination against African-Americans.

White pride exists on the context of preserving and propagating racism and discrimination, to create a hostile environment for African-Americans, and to intimidate.

So it's kind of like the three fifths argument? Reality is altered by the skin color of those in question.

Reality is altered in those that suffer from white inferiority complex. Everyone else knows this.

 

[ClosedCaption]

That this has to be explained to you and others on the right comes as no surprise.

Context.

It concerns context.

Black pride exists in the context of racism and discrimination – where it is used as a countermeasure to that racism and discrimination against African-Americans.

White pride exists on the context of preserving and propagating racism and discrimination, to create a hostile environment for African-Americans, and to intimidate.

So it's kind of like the three fifths argument? Reality is altered by the skin color of those in question.

^^ you can't make someone understand something that isn't interested in understanding

 

[Uncensored2008]

^^ you can't make someone understand something that isn't interested in understanding

Like why skin color makes one person only 3/5ths the value of another, or why skin color makes vile racism a virtue for the politically favored, but a sin for those hated by the party.

 

[ClosedCaption]

^^ you can't make someone understand something that isn't interested in understanding

Like why skin color makes one person only 3/5ths the value of another, or why skin color makes vile racism a virtue for the politically favored, but a sin for those hated by the party.

No, not like the silly victim shit yiu make up in your head. I'm talking about reality.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, not like the silly victim shit yiu make up in your head. I'm talking about reality.

The concept that reality is dependant upon the skin color of participant is delusion.

There is no excuse for your vile racism.

 

[Asclepias]

^^ you can't make someone understand something that isn't interested in understanding

Like why skin color makes one person only 3/5ths the value of another, or why skin color makes vile racism a virtue for the politically favored, but a sin for those hated by the party.

Youre whining again. Isnt your nose and eyes sore from all the crying?

 

[Correll]

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Over a million Blacks have gone to war to keep a country free that enslaved and jim crowed them.

And their service has been appreciated and rewarded by a grateful nation.

 

[Iceweasel]

The white person's predecessors repressed freedoms for the black person's predecessors. The white person's "white pride" is pride of being the repressor class. The black person's "black pride" is the pride of being the survivor of white repression.

Who is more noble? The repressor the repressed?

You're an idiot. My family hasn't owned slaves unless it was back in Roman days, may have been slaves themselves. Many blacks in the US (about 40% last I heard) do not come from North American slaves. You exemplify the problem and why so many are stuck on stupid, they think they are a race instead of a person.

Slavery was part of the repression. But have you forgotten about the events from Jim Crow through Ferguson? There's still a bunch of repression to answer for.

Bullshit. If race is holding anyone down, their race is not the problem. It's an excuse, not a handicap.

 

[Correll]

The white person's predecessors repressed freedoms for the black person's predecessors. The white person's "white pride" is pride of being the repressor class. The black person's "black pride" is the pride of being the survivor of white repression.

Who is more noble? The repressor the repressed?

Is that right, you racist fuck?

I hold no particular pride over the tone of my skin. Should another, it is irrelevant to me.

BUT you racist scum demand that one should be proud of their skin and another be ashamed.

Tell you what you race baiting pimp, you point to the person in this forum who has had black slaves and I will agree that they should be ashamed. Not for their skin color, but for their acts.

Now racist bigots like you, who attack purely on the skin color of others should be just as ashamed, I know that I'm ashamed that you are an American, and that there are other Americans who share your diseased thinking.

Your response is curious and revealing. I am white, but it's not my complexion I'm proud of, it's my nation I'm proud of. And I don't think it's my place as a white man to point out white pride. What has my complexion have to do with anything other than point out that it was white folks who held black folks first as slaves and I hen as a repressed class in this nation. Whiteness for whiteness' sake is a sign of a lost and confused race who believed fervently that blackness was a sign of inferiority. Of that attitude, I am ashamed.

Stirring that pot of shame accomplishes nothing good.

It is interesting that you reject the idea that as a white person you should point out anything that Whites should be proud of

AND THEN immediately, as a white person, point out something wrong that White People did.


Indeed, you have answered your own question.

Our culture is such, now, that Whites are conditioned to NOT feel pride in our culture and heritage and our massive accomplishments, but instead to focus on the negatives and to feel shame.

It is modern liberalism that is thus "stirring the pot of shame."

This is unhealthy for a number of reasons.

The obvious solution is to reject being held responsible for past injustices and to be proud of past accomplishments.

For being proud of past accomplishments is completely harmless,

while allowing yourself to be held responsible for past sins often carries a very high price.

A parochial point of view. I am proud of the accomplishments of my countrymen. Space exploration, blood transfusions, splitting the atom and developing the peanut and potato. Inventing jazz music, bourbon liquor, the game of baseball and drafting the constitution are among our greatest accomplishments. Some were made by white Americans, others were made by Black Americans. But I do not celebrate the accomplishments of White Americans exclusively, nor do I celebrate the great accomplishments of Black Americans exclusively.

Segregation of ideas is as egregious as segregation by race.

I've said nothing of "exclusively" celebrating anything.

Nothing in your post addressed anything that I actually said, so I will repost it for you.

Here.

It is interesting that you reject the idea that as a white person you should point out anything that Whites should be proud of

AND THEN immediately, as a white person, point out something wrong that White People did.


Indeed, you have answered your own question.

Our culture is such, now, that Whites are conditioned to NOT feel pride in our culture and heritage and our massive accomplishments, but instead to focus on the negatives and to feel shame.

It is modern liberalism that is thus "stirring the pot of shame."

This is unhealthy for a number of reasons.

The obvious solution is to reject being held responsible for past injustices and to be proud of past accomplishments.

For being proud of past accomplishments is completely harmless,

while allowing yourself to be held responsible for past sins often carries a very high price.

 

[Correll]

Black pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Black pride is a movement encouraging people to take pride in being black to various degrees.
The slogan has been used in the United States by African Americans to celebrate heritage and personal pride.


White pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White pride is a slogan primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal their racist or racialist viewpoints
Justin J. Moritz wrote that he tried to trademark the phrase "White Pride Country Wide" but it was denied for being offensive, despite that phrases like "Black Pride" and "Black Power" were trademarked

WTF?

As usual, with conservatives it's always about race and dividing America.

When liberals insist on calling conservatives racist for no reason, it is not us who is dividing America.

The point the OP raises is valid.

YOu did not address it at all.

 

[TNHarley]

Black pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Black pride is a movement encouraging people to take pride in being black to various degrees.
The slogan has been used in the United States by African Americans to celebrate heritage and personal pride.


White pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
White pride is a slogan primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal their racist or racialist viewpoints
Justin J. Moritz wrote that he tried to trademark the phrase "White Pride Country Wide" but it was denied for being offensive, despite that phrases like "Black Pride" and "Black Power" were trademarked

WTF?

As usual, with conservatives it's always about race and dividing America.

When liberals insist on calling conservatives racist for no reason, it is not us who is dividing America.

The point the OP raises is valid.

YOu did not address it at all.

yes they did. White pride is racist. Besides that, we have absolutely NOTHING to be proud about except murder etc. Black pride isn't racist. Add to that, they have everything in the world to be proud of. And apparently NOTHING to be ashamed of.
It only works one way and it racist to think any other way.