Black Lives Matter: Another youth shot dead

[Davros]

Black lives matter is specifically about unjustified killing of blacks by cops of any race.

Cops are given the power of law to arrest citizens and use deadly force when necessary. Thugs killing people is not backed by law, it's counter to the law, and is prosecuted. But when a cop kills a citizen, the state killed that citizen. And if unjustified killings of citizens by the state targets blacks, then that is a major injustice.

I see. So otherwise black lives don't matter, or they don't matter as much?

No, they do matter. But it's not the power of the state that's killing them.

How do you stop black on black violence? Well one way could be for the police to earn the trust of the community by being hired from the community, stop racial profiling, and stop police brutality.

Another way is stop sending people to prison for drug posession. Prison is only good for learning violence.

Another way is improve the schools.

Another way is give the community hope by increasing affirmative action, not decreasing it.

 

[Davros]

Dealership video shows Christian Taylor before officer shot him - CNN.com

Shot dead at 19. His father summed it up, saying that his son committed a wrong but he didn't deserve to die, and police should be trained to take down an unarmed youth without deadly force.

Christian was a good kid, only 19, and made a big mistake. But he didn't deserve to have police violently take away his life.

This is no Michael Brown case. Two officers against a 5 foot 9 180 pound college athlete. No way in hell this should have ended in the kid's death.

BLACK LIVES MATTER!

Do what you're told. Obey the law. Don't get dead. It has nothing to do with age, race, or sex.

Whites are more likely to get away with things because they're not profiled for driving while black or walking while black.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

I think all life is sacred, too bad those black lives don't matter over at planned parenthood.

Perhaps the "Black lives matter" crews could show up over there and prevent any more abortions.........

The constitution says we are all created equal, so why do I keep getting the message that fucking blacks are so much more important than any other race??

Funny thing is that many of those abortions could have ended up as the "thugs" you deride. With 50 million more people or whatever, would there be more or less crime?

Bringing up abortion on every topic gets stale when it becomes apparent that your concern for the lives of the down and out ends once they leave the womb.

Why do you care more about fetuses than about people?

Oh you misunderstand, lives matter, all babies are young innocents who have no protections other than society or parents.

When the parent wants to kill their baby and society condones it then the baby has no advocate for it's rights.

All life needs to be given a chance, I don't particularly think we will be any better with all those unaborted black babies turned loose on society.

That is not my call to make, the good lord has that say unless man intervenes.

Those blacks are by Gods word entitled to life, if they then choose to waste that life dying in crime and hate, they are the ones who will have to face their maker and explain.

This is much deeper of an intellectual subject than a hate filled little black boy like you could ever understand.

 

[cnm]

Well, if you keep contending that black lives matter, you kind of have to talk about how the vast majority of them are killed. It's not by cops btw.

Can you not read or do you just prefer to ignore points?

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Whites are more likely to get away with things because they're not profiled for driving while black or walking while black.

That is a lie, the cocaine cowboys loved me on the I20 corridor.

Long haired white man that looked like Jesus, got stopped in every state I went through..............

 

[Anathema]

It has everything to do with submission...even when you have done nothing wrong...Which creates a power corrupt police system..

The job of the people is to submit to Society, Law, and Order before anything else. To do otherwise is worthy of death. Period.

 

[Meathead]

Black lives matter is specifically about unjustified killing of blacks by cops of any race.

Cops are given the power of law to arrest citizens and use deadly force when necessary. Thugs killing people is not backed by law, it's counter to the law, and is prosecuted. But when a cop kills a citizen, the state killed that citizen. And if unjustified killings of citizens by the state targets blacks, then that is a major injustice.

I see. So otherwise black lives don't matter, or they don't matter as much?

No, they do matter. But it's not the power of the state that's killing them.

How do you stop black on black violence? Well one way could be for the police to earn the trust of the community by being hired from the community, stop racial profiling, and stop police brutality.

Another way is stop sending people to prison for drug posession. Prison is only good for learning violence.

Another way is improve the schools.

Another way is give the community hope by increasing affirmative action, not decreasing it.

Another way is the black community taking responsibility for their own problems instead of finding excuses. I've little doubt you've never considered that, beyond the yes, but...

Pouring more money into the black community terms of welfare, education and police services obviously doesn't work. The Great Society program has failed miserably and has given birth to a violent and parasitic class and has effected blacks for more than others. The violence endemic in the black community and the resulting killings of blacks at astonishing rates is yet another result.

 

[Davros]

I think all life is sacred, too bad those black lives don't matter over at planned parenthood.

Perhaps the "Black lives matter" crews could show up over there and prevent any more abortions.........

The constitution says we are all created equal, so why do I keep getting the message that fucking blacks are so much more important than any other race??

Funny thing is that many of those abortions could have ended up as the "thugs" you deride. With 50 million more people or whatever, would there be more or less crime?

Bringing up abortion on every topic gets stale when it becomes apparent that your concern for the lives of the down and out ends once they leave the womb.

Why do you care more about fetuses than about people?

Oh you misunderstand, lives matter, all babies are young innocents who have no protections other than society or parents.

When the parent wants to kill their baby and society condones it then the baby has no advocate for it's rights.

All life needs to be given a chance, I don't particularly think we will be any better with all those unaborted black babies turned loose on society.

That is not my call to make, the good lord has that say unless man intervenes.

Those blacks are by Gods word entitled to life, if they then choose to waste that life dying in crime and hate, they are the ones who will have to face their maker and explain.

This is much deeper of an intellectual subject than a hate filled little black boy like you could ever understand.

Exactly. Once they're out of the womb, they're "on their own". Do you think that a baby being forced to be born into a situation where the baby wasn't wanted has any bearing on that baby's chance for success? Why be up in arms about killing a lump of cells that has not yet developed more than a rudimentary brain, when you're condemning that lump of cells to become a human child who's brought into a world of loneliness, pain, and fear?

If you're going to try to bring 50 million people into the world WHOSE OWN MOTHERS DON'T WANT THEM you better not spout out compassion less conservative idioms such as "bring yourself up by your own boot straps or face the consequence of being lazy and unlucky".

 

[Anathema]

Whites are more likely to get away with things because they're not profiled for driving while black or walking while black.

Maybe because they don't commit as many crimes as other groups.

In the closest major city to me we've had a dozen shootings in the last month. Witnesses have identified black or Hispanic males in every case. So i assume you believe the police should be qyestiknibg white women in these cases, right?

 

[Meathead]

Well, if you keep contending that black lives matter, you kind of have to talk about how the vast majority of them are killed. It's not by cops btw.

Can you not read or do you just prefer to ignore points?

'Black lives matter!" Come on, even you can understand that.

 

[Davros]

Black lives matter is specifically about unjustified killing of blacks by cops of any race.

Cops are given the power of law to arrest citizens and use deadly force when necessary. Thugs killing people is not backed by law, it's counter to the law, and is prosecuted. But when a cop kills a citizen, the state killed that citizen. And if unjustified killings of citizens by the state targets blacks, then that is a major injustice.

I see. So otherwise black lives don't matter, or they don't matter as much?

No, they do matter. But it's not the power of the state that's killing them.

How do you stop black on black violence? Well one way could be for the police to earn the trust of the community by being hired from the community, stop racial profiling, and stop police brutality.

Another way is stop sending people to prison for drug posession. Prison is only good for learning violence.

Another way is improve the schools.

Another way is give the community hope by increasing affirmative action, not decreasing it.

Another way is the black community taking responsibility for their own problems instead of finding excuses. I've little doubt you've never considered that, beyond the yes, but...

Pouring more money into the black community terms of welfare, education and police services obviously doesn't work. The Great Society program has failed miserably and has given birth to a violent and parasitic class and has effected blacks for more than others. The violence endemic in the black community and the resulting killings of blacks at astonishing rates is yet another result.

The reason that for many there is no way out of these violent communities is not the existence of welfare. The reason is the lack of jobs. Fact: there are not enough jobs for all the people to sustain themselves.

Impoverished communities have been known for crime long before there was any welfare.

The dynamics of human community in a competitive capitalist society is a cruel hard world, not the utopia most conservatives preach.

Capitalism is about rising up above the crowd you're in not about bringing up the whole community.

Gang leaders and thugs are merely capitalists at work.

In the end, only socialism has the hope of bringing everybody up. It is a hard road, and one that requires a community spirit instead of the natural modern capitalist individual spirit.

But maybe someday socialism can succeed at building heaven on earth. I don't think it will, but it's the only thing that can.

Ultimately, capitalism is the cause of most of the black on black crime that's out there.
That is the cold hard truth. Counter to the American culture and society, but truth.

 

[Moonglow]

It has everything to do with submission...even when you have done nothing wrong...Which creates a power corrupt police system..

The job of the people is to submit to Society, Law, and Order before anything else. To do otherwise is worthy of death. Period.

Go blow it out your azz, no it is not...

 

[Meathead]

The reason that for many there is no way out of these violent communities is not the existence of welfare. The reason is the lack of jobs. Fact: there are not enough jobs for all the people to sustain themselves.

Impoverished communities have been known for crime long before there was any welfare.

The dynamics of human community in a competitive capitalist society is a cruel hard world, not the utopia most conservatives preach.

Capitalism is about rising up above the crowd you're in not about bringing up the whole community.

Gang leaders and thugs are merely capitalists at work.

In the end, only socialism has the hope of bringing everybody up. It is a hard road, and one that requires a community spirit instead of the natural modern capitalist individual spirit.

But maybe someday socialism can succeed at building heaven on earth. I don't think it will, but it's the only thing that can.

Ultimately, capitalism is the cause of most of the black on black crime that's out there.
That is the cold hard truth. Counter to the American culture and society, but truth.

Got it. You don't give a rat's ass about black lives beyond dogmatic agenda. Just another useful idiot.

 

[Davros]

See now why black on black crime is a separate issue from black lives matter?

Getting to the root of black on black crime means attacking the basic American way of life --- capitalism. You've opened up the can of worms you now know you should have left alone.

Black lives matter is about cops killing a kid who was making it in capitalist society. Who was a good student with a future. Who had risen above the crowd. Nobody yet knows why he was in that dealership or what exactly lead to his being shot.

But an unarmed black man should not be shot dead by cops.

That is black lives matter.

You really don't want to start talking about black on black crime.

 

[Katzndogz]

The kid was obviously high. Cordon off the area, keep him confined. His heart will likely stop on its own.

 

[Davros]

The reason that for many there is no way out of these violent communities is not the existence of welfare. The reason is the lack of jobs. Fact: there are not enough jobs for all the people to sustain themselves.

Impoverished communities have been known for crime long before there was any welfare.

The dynamics of human community in a competitive capitalist society is a cruel hard world, not the utopia most conservatives preach.

Capitalism is about rising up above the crowd you're in not about bringing up the whole community.

Gang leaders and thugs are merely capitalists at work.

In the end, only socialism has the hope of bringing everybody up. It is a hard road, and one that requires a community spirit instead of the natural modern capitalist individual spirit.

But maybe someday socialism can succeed at building heaven on earth. I don't think it will, but it's the only thing that can.

Ultimately, capitalism is the cause of most of the black on black crime that's out there.
That is the cold hard truth. Counter to the American culture and society, but truth.

Got it. You don't give a rat's ass about black lives beyond dogmatic agenda. Just another useful idiot.

Nor do you.

Who are you to tell the black community to "take responsibility" when you don't really believe in community responsibility?

Many, many black individuals have taken responsibility for their lives, and prosper in our individualistic capitalist world.

So why are you talking communities?

You only brought up black on black crime to discredit the anti-police brutality, anti racial profiling message of Black Lives Matter.

Now you're the one running from the topic of black on black violence because when we dig down into it black on black violence is all about socialism's moral superiority to capitalism.

 

[Meathead]

See now why black on black crime is a separate issue from black lives matter?

Getting to the root of black on black crime means attacking the basic American way of life --- capitalism. You've opened up the can of worms you now know you should have left alone.

Black lives matter is about cops killing a kid who was making it in capitalist society. Who was a good student with a future. Who had risen above the crowd. Nobody yet knows why he was in that dealership or what exactly lead to his being shot.

But an unarmed black man should not be shot dead by cops.

That is black lives matter.

You really don't want to start talking about black on black crime.

Oh, ffs. How do you know he was a good student and was destined for success in a "captalist" society? I'll repeat myself. You don't give a rat's ass about black lives. If you did, the value of black life would be an absolute and not contingent on dogmatic expediency.

 

[Anathema]

Go blow it out your azz, no it is not...

It is in the way which I was raised. You may have been raised in a way where chaos is embraced but most of us did not.

 

[Anathema]

But an unarmed black man should not be shot dead by cops.

Criminals lives dont matter. Race, Age, Gender, Armament are immaterial.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

You seem to be confused about socialism, how do all those dead beat black's claim they are contributing to society??

After all socialism is about the good of the whole society.

So again how do these leeches / takers fit into that "good for the whole" scenario you have delusions about??

Capitalism, yes you ni gg ers seem to be allergic to that concept, too stupid to run them successfully to fucking lazy to work at them..........