Black Lives Do Matter

[eflatminor]

I want to start by saying I’m all for criminal justice reform (especially losing the incarceration rate in the US). I’m all for cops going to jail when they do something illegal. However, I don’t understand how the cause entitled “Black Lives Matter” could be about police brutality. I understand that some police are prejudice and that can lead to unjust killings. The thing is, these unjust killings aren’t even close to the number one problem plaguing black communities. Technically it’s heart disease, then cancer. Even assault (about 90% of which is black on black according to the FBI) makes the top ten list of killers of African Americans. And what about the things that ruin families and communities even if they don’t necessarily cause death, such as incarceration/recidivism rates, unemployment/underemployment and selling/using drugs. My question is, if BLM really wanted to help the black community why would they not attack these issues instead of the relatively small, but highly publicized, issue of racially fueled police brutality. My assumption is that the people involved in the BLM leadership are privileged, bored, and looking for fame. In my opinion, all the money that is going towards BLM could be going to actually saving lives and making the world a better place. Please, someone tell me why money is better spent on a problem that affects hundreds when the same money could be used much more efficiently to address a problem that affects hundreds of thousands?


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I'm tired of their bullshit. Stop the ******* whining and go do something with themselves instead of pulling a Hillary of it being everyone elses fault except their own.

Its Black peoples fault cops are racist? Why should they stop whining when Whites dont stop whining?

All cops are racist?

Do you have proof of this that doesn't involve a logical fallacy or emotional argument?

My but you paint with a GIANT brush.

 

[eflatminor]

I think the idea of looking to someone else to affirm your own life matters is both sad and pathetic.

Whos looking for someone else to affirm their lives besides you?

First, I've done no such thing.

Secondly, anyone demanding another affirm BLM, for example.

What did you your second sentence mean? Did you make a typo or did you leave a word out?

No typo.

Serious question: Is English not your first language?

 

[Gracie]

Even the black cops are racist?
I'm sure I know what your opinion is of Sheriff Clark. Personally, I think he is awesome. In fact, there are many black folks I think are awesome. It's the whiners I have a problem with.

 

[Asclepias]

I want to start by saying I’m all for criminal justice reform (especially losing the incarceration rate in the US). I’m all for cops going to jail when they do something illegal. However, I don’t understand how the cause entitled “Black Lives Matter” could be about police brutality. I understand that some police are prejudice and that can lead to unjust killings. The thing is, these unjust killings aren’t even close to the number one problem plaguing black communities. Technically it’s heart disease, then cancer. Even assault (about 90% of which is black on black according to the FBI) makes the top ten list of killers of African Americans. And what about the things that ruin families and communities even if they don’t necessarily cause death, such as incarceration/recidivism rates, unemployment/underemployment and selling/using drugs. My question is, if BLM really wanted to help the black community why would they not attack these issues instead of the relatively small, but highly publicized, issue of racially fueled police brutality. My assumption is that the people involved in the BLM leadership are privileged, bored, and looking for fame. In my opinion, all the money that is going towards BLM could be going to actually saving lives and making the world a better place. Please, someone tell me why money is better spent on a problem that affects hundreds when the same money could be used much more efficiently to address a problem that affects hundreds of thousands?


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I'm tired of their bullshit. Stop the ******* whining and go do something with themselves instead of pulling a Hillary of it being everyone elses fault except their own.

Its Black peoples fault cops are racist? Why should they stop whining when Whites dont stop whining?

All cops are racist?

Do you have proof of this that doesn't involve a logical fallacy or emotional argument?

My but you paint with a GIANT brush.

If one cop is racist its a problem. Why does it have to be all of them for BLM to be right?

Yes. I have testimony from a former police chief and personal experience. I hope youre not asking me to prove it to you are you? If so your belief isnt required.

 

[Asclepias]

I think the idea of looking to someone else to affirm your own life matters is both sad and pathetic.

Whos looking for someone else to affirm their lives besides you?

First, I've done no such thing.

Secondly, anyone demanding another affirm BLM, for example.

What did you your second sentence mean? Did you make a typo or did you leave a word out?

No typo.

Serious question: Is English not your first language?

No Ebonics is my first language. Why do you ask?

 

[Gracie]

I want to start by saying I’m all for criminal justice reform (especially losing the incarceration rate in the US). I’m all for cops going to jail when they do something illegal. However, I don’t understand how the cause entitled “Black Lives Matter” could be about police brutality. I understand that some police are prejudice and that can lead to unjust killings. The thing is, these unjust killings aren’t even close to the number one problem plaguing black communities. Technically it’s heart disease, then cancer. Even assault (about 90% of which is black on black according to the FBI) makes the top ten list of killers of African Americans. And what about the things that ruin families and communities even if they don’t necessarily cause death, such as incarceration/recidivism rates, unemployment/underemployment and selling/using drugs. My question is, if BLM really wanted to help the black community why would they not attack these issues instead of the relatively small, but highly publicized, issue of racially fueled police brutality. My assumption is that the people involved in the BLM leadership are privileged, bored, and looking for fame. In my opinion, all the money that is going towards BLM could be going to actually saving lives and making the world a better place. Please, someone tell me why money is better spent on a problem that affects hundreds when the same money could be used much more efficiently to address a problem that affects hundreds of thousands?


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I'm tired of their bullshit. Stop the ******* whining and go do something with themselves instead of pulling a Hillary of it being everyone elses fault except their own.

Its Black peoples fault cops are racist? Why should they stop whining when Whites dont stop whining?

All cops are racist?

Do you have proof of this that doesn't involve a logical fallacy or emotional argument?

My but you paint with a GIANT brush.

If one cop is racist its a problem. Why does it have to be all of them for BLM to be right?

Yes. I have testimony from a former police chief and personal experience. I hope youre not asking me to prove it to you are you? If so your belief isnt required.

And that can be said about blacks that are racist against whites...or even their own "uncle toms". That's a problem too, isn't it?
Now, I just handed that big brush back to you.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

That's why whites kill me when they say "I would not feel safe in a back area"

Nigga, ud b the safest person there.

Black ppl are well of the severe punishment that would come from harming a white person, in fact fk that.

let becky go to the hood, n even if she thinks she's being threatened, squad cars and choppers wood have the block on lock down in under ten mins.

N that's white supremacy in nutshell. U can do whatever you want, if your white, n no one will say a word.

N sometimes that systems comes back n bites them on the ass, because white men c this, they see that ppl r not gonna do sh.i.t to them, so they go out n kill, like we saw in Texas and Vegas, they are not gonna get punished.

Absolutely. We have law abiding minorities afraid of police and white criminals who know their skin color or economic standing will bail them out. What a screwy country.

Then get the **** out if you are so mistreated. nothing is stopping you. oh. wait. yer too ******* lazy to work to get passage to where your ancestors came from and want the handouts here. Nevermind.

there is no where to go. That's what white supremacy is. This what we have been telling u. So saying "go there" is like the warden of prison, saying to prisoner to move to another cell, if he does not like the sh.i.t, he's getting. The whole world is one big prison of white supremacy.

You took us over. Africa ? Please. The White suprmacist have that on lock.

The whole world is a total system of white supremacy and there is not one grain of sand, one blade of grass u can show me, which is not dominated by white supremacy.

Africa is not controlled by whites anymore, hasn't been for awhile. You need to get updated, bro.

Africa is not controlled by whites ?

Ok. Can you explain what you mean.

The Chinese took it over.

 

[Asclepias]

I want to start by saying I’m all for criminal justice reform (especially losing the incarceration rate in the US). I’m all for cops going to jail when they do something illegal. However, I don’t understand how the cause entitled “Black Lives Matter” could be about police brutality. I understand that some police are prejudice and that can lead to unjust killings. The thing is, these unjust killings aren’t even close to the number one problem plaguing black communities. Technically it’s heart disease, then cancer. Even assault (about 90% of which is black on black according to the FBI) makes the top ten list of killers of African Americans. And what about the things that ruin families and communities even if they don’t necessarily cause death, such as incarceration/recidivism rates, unemployment/underemployment and selling/using drugs. My question is, if BLM really wanted to help the black community why would they not attack these issues instead of the relatively small, but highly publicized, issue of racially fueled police brutality. My assumption is that the people involved in the BLM leadership are privileged, bored, and looking for fame. In my opinion, all the money that is going towards BLM could be going to actually saving lives and making the world a better place. Please, someone tell me why money is better spent on a problem that affects hundreds when the same money could be used much more efficiently to address a problem that affects hundreds of thousands?


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I'm tired of their bullshit. Stop the ******* whining and go do something with themselves instead of pulling a Hillary of it being everyone elses fault except their own.

Its Black peoples fault cops are racist? Why should they stop whining when Whites dont stop whining?

All cops are racist?

Do you have proof of this that doesn't involve a logical fallacy or emotional argument?

My but you paint with a GIANT brush.

If one cop is racist its a problem. Why does it have to be all of them for BLM to be right?

Yes. I have testimony from a former police chief and personal experience. I hope youre not asking me to prove it to you are you? If so your belief isnt required.

And that can be said about blacks that are racist against whites...or even their own "uncle toms". That's a problem too, isn't it?
Now, I just handed that big brush back to you.

Blacks control zero systems. Wake me when Black cops are crawling all over your neighborhood looking for young white men to give a criminal record and separate from their families.

 

[Aries]

Even the black cops are racist?
I'm sure I know what your opinion is of Sheriff Clark. Personally, I think he is awesome. In fact, there are many black folks I think are awesome. It's the whiners I have a problem with.

Really?

What “black folk” do you find awesome? And why?
Just flash me a little humanity Gracie, just a quicky.

 

[eflatminor]

I want to start by saying I’m all for criminal justice reform (especially losing the incarceration rate in the US). I’m all for cops going to jail when they do something illegal. However, I don’t understand how the cause entitled “Black Lives Matter” could be about police brutality. I understand that some police are prejudice and that can lead to unjust killings. The thing is, these unjust killings aren’t even close to the number one problem plaguing black communities. Technically it’s heart disease, then cancer. Even assault (about 90% of which is black on black according to the FBI) makes the top ten list of killers of African Americans. And what about the things that ruin families and communities even if they don’t necessarily cause death, such as incarceration/recidivism rates, unemployment/underemployment and selling/using drugs. My question is, if BLM really wanted to help the black community why would they not attack these issues instead of the relatively small, but highly publicized, issue of racially fueled police brutality. My assumption is that the people involved in the BLM leadership are privileged, bored, and looking for fame. In my opinion, all the money that is going towards BLM could be going to actually saving lives and making the world a better place. Please, someone tell me why money is better spent on a problem that affects hundreds when the same money could be used much more efficiently to address a problem that affects hundreds of thousands?


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I'm tired of their bullshit. Stop the ******* whining and go do something with themselves instead of pulling a Hillary of it being everyone elses fault except their own.

Its Black peoples fault cops are racist? Why should they stop whining when Whites dont stop whining?

All cops are racist?

Do you have proof of this that doesn't involve a logical fallacy or emotional argument?

My but you paint with a GIANT brush.

If one cop is racist its a problem. Why does it have to be all of them for BLM to be right?

Yes. I have testimony from a former police chief and personal experience. I hope youre not asking me to prove it to you are you? If so your belief isnt required.

Ah, well that's different. When one states "caps are racist" he's implying 'all'.

Of course, a racist cop is a problem, no doubt. No place for it. If you see it, I'll stand by you in protest.

No, I'm not asking you to prove that there is a police officer out there that is a racist. I'm sure there is.

Well that was fun...

 

[eflatminor]

I think the idea of looking to someone else to affirm your own life matters is both sad and pathetic.

Whos looking for someone else to affirm their lives besides you?

First, I've done no such thing.

Secondly, anyone demanding another affirm BLM, for example.

What did you your second sentence mean? Did you make a typo or did you leave a word out?

No typo.

Serious question: Is English not your first language?

No Ebonics is my first language. Why do you ask?

Sorry I can't help any reading comprehension issues.

 

[Aries]

Whos looking for someone else to affirm their lives besides you?

First, I've done no such thing.

Secondly, anyone demanding another affirm BLM, for example.

What did you your second sentence mean? Did you make a typo or did you leave a word out?

No typo.

Serious question: Is English not your first language?

No Ebonics is my first language. Why do you ask?

Sorry I can't help any reading comprehension issues.

I didn’t really get it either
“Secondly, anyone demanding another affirm BLM, for example.“
If all of the words are right, it is certainly punctuated wrong.

 

[Asclepias]

I want to start by saying I’m all for criminal justice reform (especially losing the incarceration rate in the US). I’m all for cops going to jail when they do something illegal. However, I don’t understand how the cause entitled “Black Lives Matter” could be about police brutality. I understand that some police are prejudice and that can lead to unjust killings. The thing is, these unjust killings aren’t even close to the number one problem plaguing black communities. Technically it’s heart disease, then cancer. Even assault (about 90% of which is black on black according to the FBI) makes the top ten list of killers of African Americans. And what about the things that ruin families and communities even if they don’t necessarily cause death, such as incarceration/recidivism rates, unemployment/underemployment and selling/using drugs. My question is, if BLM really wanted to help the black community why would they not attack these issues instead of the relatively small, but highly publicized, issue of racially fueled police brutality. My assumption is that the people involved in the BLM leadership are privileged, bored, and looking for fame. In my opinion, all the money that is going towards BLM could be going to actually saving lives and making the world a better place. Please, someone tell me why money is better spent on a problem that affects hundreds when the same money could be used much more efficiently to address a problem that affects hundreds of thousands?


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I'm tired of their bullshit. Stop the ******* whining and go do something with themselves instead of pulling a Hillary of it being everyone elses fault except their own.

Its Black peoples fault cops are racist? Why should they stop whining when Whites dont stop whining?

All cops are racist?

Do you have proof of this that doesn't involve a logical fallacy or emotional argument?

My but you paint with a GIANT brush.

If one cop is racist its a problem. Why does it have to be all of them for BLM to be right?

Yes. I have testimony from a former police chief and personal experience. I hope youre not asking me to prove it to you are you? If so your belief isnt required.

Ah, well that's different. When one states "caps are racist" he's implying 'all'.

Of course, a racist cop is a problem, no doubt. No place for it. If you see it, I'll stand by you in protest.

No, I'm not asking you to prove that there is a police officer out there that is a racist. I'm sure there is.

Well that was fun...

I'm not implying anything. Youre just assuming without clarifying.

I have seen it too many times to count myself. I have people in my family that are cops and they say a good 80% of white cops are racist. I had a friend that was a cop that actually quit due to the racist cops in his unit. I also live across the street from a sherriff that says the same thing. Whites such as yourself are typically clueless and have the nerve to get outraged when Blacks assume all cops are racist. There is a reason. Most cops I have met are racist, power hunger assholes.

 

[Gracie]

Posts from somewhere else. I will not post the link because it is a competing site. Read what these folks are saying (black folks) or dismiss it. Whatever floats your boats:

I too consider myself refined, intelligent, well-bred and well spoken. However, because of my upbringing, my form of communication may be misconstrued as being bourgeois, uppity, 'not black enough' or grandstanding.

I'm another Black person who is seen as *uppity* or whatever because I speak properly. It's me, and the only way I can say I've consciously tried to change the way I speak is by trying to avoid speaking with a Midwest(Minnesota!) accent - you know, chewy, like - "Ya, I'm frum Minnasoy-tah...." And I've had white men (I've *mostly* dated white men exclusively)tell me they don't see me as Black, because I don't act or speak like a Black person. Whatever that means. Listen to Hip-Hip/Rap? Go to dance clubs every weekend? (I don't dance!)Still, I've had even more black men tell me this. Hm??? Well I am Black, and if the usual stereotypes don?t fit - *they* must not be accurate enough, not the other way around. Ghetto in not synonymous with Black, just as Trailer Park is not synonymous with White - as a racial definition. Same with gender- oh, I've had many discussions about what it is to be female. What I'm saying is that genitalia or skin pigmentation, hair texture, etc., does not determine personality or one?s essential nature. I think people simply need to change their racial/gender definitions and see them as the physical classifications that they are.

Hmm Had to think about this one and my response is ...what! 1st of all since when is acting Ghetto acting black? 2nd acting Ghetto when you are "with" a black man is acting ignorant and imature not black. What about the educated blacks who are sophisticated.How are they acting ?white? L

I believe you are 100% correct. I am a sophisticated black man and I have always been accused of acting white. What is that all about?

your comment just blew my mind. my daughter is biracial and was raised by a wonderful Black Man. He taught her to use proper english. It not about trying to sound white, if you use proper english, but that you have been educated.


It goes on and on, but I think they made great pointers.

 

[Gracie]

I'm tired of their bullshit. Stop the ******* whining and go do something with themselves instead of pulling a Hillary of it being everyone elses fault except their own.

Its Black peoples fault cops are racist? Why should they stop whining when Whites dont stop whining?

All cops are racist?

Do you have proof of this that doesn't involve a logical fallacy or emotional argument?

My but you paint with a GIANT brush.

If one cop is racist its a problem. Why does it have to be all of them for BLM to be right?

Yes. I have testimony from a former police chief and personal experience. I hope youre not asking me to prove it to you are you? If so your belief isnt required.

And that can be said about blacks that are racist against whites...or even their own "uncle toms". That's a problem too, isn't it?
Now, I just handed that big brush back to you.

Blacks control zero systems. Wake me when Black cops are crawling all over your neighborhood looking for young white men to give a criminal record and separate from their families.

Separate them from their families? What era are you living in??? Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

 

[eflatminor]

First, I've done no such thing.

Secondly, anyone demanding another affirm BLM, for example.

What did you your second sentence mean? Did you make a typo or did you leave a word out?

No typo.

Serious question: Is English not your first language?

No Ebonics is my first language. Why do you ask?

Sorry I can't help any reading comprehension issues.

I didn’t really get it either
“Secondly, anyone demanding another affirm BLM, for example.“
If all of the words are right, it is certainly punctuated wrong.

You'd have to read the question first: "Whos looking for someone else to affirm their lives..."

 

[Aries]

I'm tired of their bullshit. Stop the ******* whining and go do something with themselves instead of pulling a Hillary of it being everyone elses fault except their own.

Its Black peoples fault cops are racist? Why should they stop whining when Whites dont stop whining?

All cops are racist?

Do you have proof of this that doesn't involve a logical fallacy or emotional argument?

My but you paint with a GIANT brush.

If one cop is racist its a problem. Why does it have to be all of them for BLM to be right?

Yes. I have testimony from a former police chief and personal experience. I hope youre not asking me to prove it to you are you? If so your belief isnt required.

Ah, well that's different. When one states "caps are racist" he's implying 'all'.

Of course, a racist cop is a problem, no doubt. No place for it. If you see it, I'll stand by you in protest.

No, I'm not asking you to prove that there is a police officer out there that is a racist. I'm sure there is.

Well that was fun...

I'm not implying anything. Youre just assuming without clarifying.

I have seen it too many times to count myself. I have people in my family that are cops and they say a good 80% of white cops are racist. I had a friend that was a cop that actually quit due to the racist cops in his unit. I also live across the street from a sherriff that says the same thing. Whites such as yourself are typically clueless and have the nerve to get outraged when Blacks assume all cops are racist. There is a reason. Most cops I have met are racist, power hunger assholes.

I'm tired of their bullshit. Stop the ******* whining and go do something with themselves instead of pulling a Hillary of it being everyone elses fault except their own.

Its Black peoples fault cops are racist? Why should they stop whining when Whites dont stop whining?

All cops are racist?

Do you have proof of this that doesn't involve a logical fallacy or emotional argument?

My but you paint with a GIANT brush.

If one cop is racist its a problem. Why does it have to be all of them for BLM to be right?

Yes. I have testimony from a former police chief and personal experience. I hope youre not asking me to prove it to you are you? If so your belief isnt required.

Ah, well that's different. When one states "caps are racist" he's implying 'all'.

Of course, a racist cop is a problem, no doubt. No place for it. If you see it, I'll stand by you in protest.

No, I'm not asking you to prove that there is a police officer out there that is a racist. I'm sure there is.

Well that was fun...

I'm not implying anything. Youre just assuming without clarifying.

I have seen it too many times to count myself. I have people in my family that are cops and they say a good 80% of white cops are racist. I had a friend that was a cop that actually quit due to the racist cops in his unit. I also live across the street from a sherriff that says the same thing. Whites such as yourself are typically clueless and have the nerve to get outraged when Blacks assume all cops are racist. There is a reason. Most cops I have met are racist, power hunger assholes.

Don’t explain anything, these ding bats throw around stereotypes of your race all day long. Show them how it feels once in a while. They can’t say African Americans are lazy, whiny, criminals than get all offended for the police force when their racism is called out. F— that

 

[Asclepias]

Posts from somewhere else. I will not post the link because it is a competing site. Read what these folks are saying (black folks) or dismiss it. Whatever floats your boats:

I too consider myself refined, intelligent, well-bred and well spoken. However, because of my upbringing, my form of communication may be misconstrued as being bourgeois, uppity, 'not black enough' or grandstanding.

I'm another Black person who is seen as *uppity* or whatever because I speak properly. It's me, and the only way I can say I've consciously tried to change the way I speak is by trying to avoid speaking with a Midwest(Minnesota!) accent - you know, chewy, like - "Ya, I'm frum Minnasoy-tah...." And I've had white men (I've *mostly* dated white men exclusively)tell me they don't see me as Black, because I don't act or speak like a Black person. Whatever that means. Listen to Hip-Hip/Rap? Go to dance clubs every weekend? (I don't dance!)Still, I've had even more black men tell me this. Hm??? Well I am Black, and if the usual stereotypes don?t fit - *they* must not be accurate enough, not the other way around. Ghetto in not synonymous with Black, just as Trailer Park is not synonymous with White - as a racial definition. Same with gender- oh, I've had many discussions about what it is to be female. What I'm saying is that genitalia or skin pigmentation, hair texture, etc., does not determine personality or one?s essential nature. I think people simply need to change their racial/gender definitions and see them as the physical classifications that they are.

Hmm Had to think about this one and my response is ...what! 1st of all since when is acting Ghetto acting black? 2nd acting Ghetto when you are "with" a black man is acting ignorant and imature not black. What about the educated blacks who are sophisticated.How are they acting ?white? L

I believe you are 100% correct. I am a sophisticated black man and I have always been accused of acting white. What is that all about?

your comment just blew my mind. my daughter is biracial and was raised by a wonderful Black Man. He taught her to use proper english. It not about trying to sound white, if you use proper english, but that you have been educated.


It goes on and on, but I think they made great pointers.

Here is the problem with your quotes. If Black people think youre trying to sound white...then you are. I know lots of Blacks that speak correct english and no one thinks they are trying to act white so obviously its more than just using standard english. These people are probably uncle toms that have sold out in order to appease white people.

 

[Gracie]

HIS race. So..you are not black but are fighting for them because they are still living the life they were taught that they can sit around and whine all day, make babies with multiple partners and then walk away, burn and loot their OWN neighborhoods.
Alrighty then!

 

[eflatminor]

I'm tired of their bullshit. Stop the ******* whining and go do something with themselves instead of pulling a Hillary of it being everyone elses fault except their own.

Its Black peoples fault cops are racist? Why should they stop whining when Whites dont stop whining?

All cops are racist?

Do you have proof of this that doesn't involve a logical fallacy or emotional argument?

My but you paint with a GIANT brush.

If one cop is racist its a problem. Why does it have to be all of them for BLM to be right?

Yes. I have testimony from a former police chief and personal experience. I hope youre not asking me to prove it to you are you? If so your belief isnt required.

Ah, well that's different. When one states "caps are racist" he's implying 'all'.

Of course, a racist cop is a problem, no doubt. No place for it. If you see it, I'll stand by you in protest.

No, I'm not asking you to prove that there is a police officer out there that is a racist. I'm sure there is.

Well that was fun...

I'm not implying anything. Youre just assuming without clarifying.

I have seen it too many times to count myself. I have people in my family that are cops and they say a good 80% of white cops are racist. I had a friend that was a cop that actually quit due to the racist cops in his unit. I also live across the street from a sherriff that says the same thing. Whites such as yourself are typically clueless and have the nerve to get outraged when Blacks assume all cops are racist. There is a reason. Most cops I have met are racist, power hunger assholes.

Good lord man, be clear. Are you saying it's bad when a cop is a racist or are you saying all cops are racists? Spit it out!