Black Communities Ravaged by COVID-19. Black Churches Still Meeting.

[Superbadbrutha]

Where are Jesse and Al with the loudpeakers when you need them ?
STAYZ ON DA PORCH !

You can listen to Rev Al Monday through Friday on the radio or watch him on TEEVEE on Saturday and Sunday.

 

[OldLady]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Well, the Democrats can't let a little thing like COVID-19 get in the way of their narrative, can they???

Even though they have a different pastor now, Obama's old church in Chicago is still having their Sunday worship service...

Home - TUCC

www.trinitychicago.org

And COVID-19 is taking off in Chicago, with over 3.000 cases...

Home | COVID19

Chicago Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) information Updates

www.chicago.gov

Of course they are, and as you say, in Chicago of all places. Which like Detroit is a hot spot.

No arrests, the MSM won't even mention it, the USMB Leftists all raging about the white megachurches having their services, of course. Can't be mad at the minorities. Do you think it's a case of the white liberals just think those "poor brown people don't know any better"? I always suspect that. Always.

Sue you are the only person on USMB bitching about 2 white pastors being charged for not closing their churches.

You must have Bob Blaylock on ignore.

 

[Likkmee]

Where are Jesse and Al with the loudpeakers when you need them ?
STAYZ ON DA PORCH !

You can listen to Rev Al Monday through Friday on the radio or watch him on TEEVEE on Saturday and Sunday.

Damn. I don't have an AM radio or a TeeBee. Does Al have a Youtoob channel ? I did find this....LOL

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

They are already starting in on the racism absolutely. Of course it's racism and not the fact that Blacks in Detroit are still congregating in family groups; still going to church in groups.

Although Detroit has the highest concentration of cases, several suburbs that surround the city have low rates of coronavirus including Dearborn, Allen Park and Grosse Pointe Park.

All are predominantly white.

Tlaib said “it is very clear that structural racism is showing its ugly face during this global pandemic.”

“It is communities of color, especially the African-American community in my district, that you see getting directly impacted,” she said.

Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, an epidemiologist, said even if it was made public, existing data on coronavirus may not illustrate the full effect in communities of color.

“We're testing only people who come in with severe disease,” said El-Sayed, the former health director of the City of Detroit who ran for governor in 2018 as a Democrat.

“Frankly, I think that we would be very much underestimating the burden that this disease has in low-income communities and communities of color.”

I'm black sue, please stop trying to tell me what blacks are thinking. Funny how you are on this but you run from the reality of white racist American public policy. COVID19 will hit the black community hard due to the scarcity of medical facilities in that community, low incomes and the inability to afford health insurance. And that is due to racism. So like I said, you don't want to discuss white racist American public policy, but you want to run your mouth about some black churches in Detroit.

This is the last post in which I will address you. I agree that all of those are severe and lamentable issues and they will impact the community and COVID in Detroit and elsewhere. Due to poverty, lack of healthcare and the preponderance of health conditions in the black community such as COPD, high blood pressure, obesity and diabetes, it's going to be anywhere from difficult to devastating.

IT DOES NOT HELP when black people make the choice not to socially distance themselves in churches or in family gatherings.

That's it from me, I notice you are picking at me but ignore the actual racist comment in the thread. That's because I'm not actually a racist, which you know. So, I'm done.

You decided to bring race into an issue that had nothing to do with race.

Good riddance. I have stated that black churches need to close. I just find it ironic how you decided to post about black churches. Black churches are churches just like white churches, so any church that is still holding services should not be and is putting the people in their community in jeopardy. You're a hypocrite sue, that's why I am on you. You are a self righteous racist, homophobic, xenophobic, anti life piece of garbage that hides behind the bible to justify your bigotry. Then when you get called on it, you want to try gaslighting people again trying to use god. So understand this, all of us are capable of determining how god has thought on things because he gives us that power to seek and to question him. So me saying this virus is a punishment on people such as you for your unrepentant ways is based on the requirements taught in the bible itself.

So you better get right, because at this point you are a Pharisee and Pharisees are not in good standing with the lord. And that's according to the lord himself, not me.

I'm calling for another march of a million black men in DC.

Shithead didn't you mean another march of a million white men wearing sheets in DC.

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A million-man march of black thugs, not white ones. I guess I wasn't clear enough for you.

I remember all of the crimes they committed during that march....I believe 78,000 of them raped 271,038 victims that weekend......

567,928 of them murdered 2.5 million people that weekend also......but the media didn't report it...

 

[Meathead]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

They are already starting in on the racism absolutely. Of course it's racism and not the fact that Blacks in Detroit are still congregating in family groups; still going to church in groups.

Although Detroit has the highest concentration of cases, several suburbs that surround the city have low rates of coronavirus including Dearborn, Allen Park and Grosse Pointe Park.

All are predominantly white.

Tlaib said “it is very clear that structural racism is showing its ugly face during this global pandemic.”

“It is communities of color, especially the African-American community in my district, that you see getting directly impacted,” she said.

Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, an epidemiologist, said even if it was made public, existing data on coronavirus may not illustrate the full effect in communities of color.

“We're testing only people who come in with severe disease,” said El-Sayed, the former health director of the City of Detroit who ran for governor in 2018 as a Democrat.

“Frankly, I think that we would be very much underestimating the burden that this disease has in low-income communities and communities of color.”

I'm black sue, please stop trying to tell me what blacks are thinking. Funny how you are on this but you run from the reality of white racist American public policy. COVID19 will hit the black community hard due to the scarcity of medical facilities in that community, low incomes and the inability to afford health insurance. And that is due to racism. So like I said, you don't want to discuss white racist American public policy, but you want to run your mouth about some black churches in Detroit.

This is the last post in which I will address you. I agree that all of those are severe and lamentable issues and they will impact the community and COVID in Detroit and elsewhere. Due to poverty, lack of healthcare and the preponderance of health conditions in the black community such as COPD, high blood pressure, obesity and diabetes, it's going to be anywhere from difficult to devastating.

IT DOES NOT HELP when black people make the choice not to socially distance themselves in churches or in family gatherings.

That's it from me, I notice you are picking at me but ignore the actual racist comment in the thread. That's because I'm not actually a racist, which you know. So, I'm done.

You decided to bring race into an issue that had nothing to do with race.

Good riddance. I have stated that black churches need to close. I just find it ironic how you decided to post about black churches. Black churches are churches just like white churches, so any church that is still holding services should not be and is putting the people in their community in jeopardy. You're a hypocrite sue, that's why I am on you. You are a self righteous racist, homophobic, xenophobic, anti life piece of garbage that hides behind the bible to justify your bigotry. Then when you get called on it, you want to try gaslighting people again trying to use god. So understand this, all of us are capable of determining how god has thought on things because he gives us that power to seek and to question him. So me saying this virus is a punishment on people such as you for your unrepentant ways is based on the requirements taught in the bible itself.

So you better get right, because at this point you are a Pharisee and Pharisees are not in good standing with the lord. And that's according to the lord himself, not me.

I'm calling for another march of a million black men in DC.

Shithead didn't you mean another march of a million white men wearing sheets in DC.

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A million-man march of black thugs, not white ones. I guess I wasn't clear enough for you.

I attended the Million Man March and I am not a THUG, oh that's right if you are a black man you are automatically a THUG to racist. My bad Shithead, I forgot who I was talking to.

I thought superbadbruthus were always thugs. Certainly anyone to label themselves that are.

Anyway, organize and march, and do it real soon.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

They are already starting in on the racism absolutely. Of course it's racism and not the fact that Blacks in Detroit are still congregating in family groups; still going to church in groups.

Although Detroit has the highest concentration of cases, several suburbs that surround the city have low rates of coronavirus including Dearborn, Allen Park and Grosse Pointe Park.

All are predominantly white.

Tlaib said “it is very clear that structural racism is showing its ugly face during this global pandemic.”

“It is communities of color, especially the African-American community in my district, that you see getting directly impacted,” she said.

Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, an epidemiologist, said even if it was made public, existing data on coronavirus may not illustrate the full effect in communities of color.

“We're testing only people who come in with severe disease,” said El-Sayed, the former health director of the City of Detroit who ran for governor in 2018 as a Democrat.

“Frankly, I think that we would be very much underestimating the burden that this disease has in low-income communities and communities of color.”

I'm black sue, please stop trying to tell me what blacks are thinking. Funny how you are on this but you run from the reality of white racist American public policy. COVID19 will hit the black community hard due to the scarcity of medical facilities in that community, low incomes and the inability to afford health insurance. And that is due to racism. So like I said, you don't want to discuss white racist American public policy, but you want to run your mouth about some black churches in Detroit.

This is the last post in which I will address you. I agree that all of those are severe and lamentable issues and they will impact the community and COVID in Detroit and elsewhere. Due to poverty, lack of healthcare and the preponderance of health conditions in the black community such as COPD, high blood pressure, obesity and diabetes, it's going to be anywhere from difficult to devastating.

IT DOES NOT HELP when black people make the choice not to socially distance themselves in churches or in family gatherings.

That's it from me, I notice you are picking at me but ignore the actual racist comment in the thread. That's because I'm not actually a racist, which you know. So, I'm done.

You decided to bring race into an issue that had nothing to do with race.

Good riddance. I have stated that black churches need to close. I just find it ironic how you decided to post about black churches. Black churches are churches just like white churches, so any church that is still holding services should not be and is putting the people in their community in jeopardy. You're a hypocrite sue, that's why I am on you. You are a self righteous racist, homophobic, xenophobic, anti life piece of garbage that hides behind the bible to justify your bigotry. Then when you get called on it, you want to try gaslighting people again trying to use god. So understand this, all of us are capable of determining how god has thought on things because he gives us that power to seek and to question him. So me saying this virus is a punishment on people such as you for your unrepentant ways is based on the requirements taught in the bible itself.

So you better get right, because at this point you are a Pharisee and Pharisees are not in good standing with the lord. And that's according to the lord himself, not me.

I'm calling for another march of a million black men in DC.

Shithead didn't you mean another march of a million white men wearing sheets in DC.

View attachment 318242

A million-man march of black thugs, not white ones. I guess I wasn't clear enough for you.

I attended the Million Man March and I am not a THUG, oh that's right if you are a black man you are automatically a THUG to racist. My bad Shithead, I forgot who I was talking to.

I thought superbadbruthus were always thugs. Certainly anyone to label themselves that are.

Anyway, organize and march, and do it real soon.

Well I am not surprised, whatelse should anyone expect from a right wing, racist, fool. How about you get up the old crew and you march instead, I am pretty sure a little Clorox will get that sheet white again.

 

[OldLady]

Hey, you guys keep this up it's going to get moved to the Race forum. Beginning to sound like it. It's supposed to be about challenging the OP.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Hey, you guys keep this up it's going to get moved to the Race forum. Beginning to sound like it. It's supposed to be about challenging the OP.

Anytime the word "black" appears in the title...chances are it will devolve into racial bickering.....

I can make a thread titled "Little Girl Rescues Black Cat From A Tree" -- and you will have someone saying "was that cat trying to break into her house?? Did it have a criminal record?

 

[SweetSue92]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

They are already starting in on the racism absolutely. Of course it's racism and not the fact that Blacks in Detroit are still congregating in family groups; still going to church in groups.

Although Detroit has the highest concentration of cases, several suburbs that surround the city have low rates of coronavirus including Dearborn, Allen Park and Grosse Pointe Park.

All are predominantly white.

Tlaib said “it is very clear that structural racism is showing its ugly face during this global pandemic.”

“It is communities of color, especially the African-American community in my district, that you see getting directly impacted,” she said.

Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, an epidemiologist, said even if it was made public, existing data on coronavirus may not illustrate the full effect in communities of color.

“We're testing only people who come in with severe disease,” said El-Sayed, the former health director of the City of Detroit who ran for governor in 2018 as a Democrat.

“Frankly, I think that we would be very much underestimating the burden that this disease has in low-income communities and communities of color.”

Maybe blacks think this whole virus thing is an over-hyped hoax -- you know, like you use to think....

So look at it on the bright side....this just shows that you are more advanced than those inferior blacks because now you fully support social distancing and you no longer think its all hype -- while those feeble-minded blacks still think its nothing to take serious....

#BLEXIT

In case this isn't clear: I think everyone who is any color has the same Constitutionally protected right to meet and worship together as anyone else. I am pointing out that one group is targeted for arrest and public scorn and another group is not, simple as that.

 

[SweetSue92]

Hey, you guys keep this up it's going to get moved to the Race forum. Beginning to sound like it. It's supposed to be about challenging the OP.

Racist, racist, racist racist racist--your side has made the word essentially meaningless. It's a fat "whatever" now

 

[OldLady]

Hey, you guys keep this up it's going to get moved to the Race forum. Beginning to sound like it. It's supposed to be about challenging the OP.

Anytime the word "black" appears in the title...chances are it will devolve into racial bickering.....

I can make a thread titled "Little Girl Rescues Black Cat From A Tree" -- and you will have someone saying "was that cat trying to break into her house?? Did it have a criminal record?

Yeah, I know. There is such a thing as not replying to the peanut gallery, though.

 

[SweetSue92]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

They are already starting in on the racism absolutely. Of course it's racism and not the fact that Blacks in Detroit are still congregating in family groups; still going to church in groups.

Although Detroit has the highest concentration of cases, several suburbs that surround the city have low rates of coronavirus including Dearborn, Allen Park and Grosse Pointe Park.

All are predominantly white.

Tlaib said “it is very clear that structural racism is showing its ugly face during this global pandemic.”

“It is communities of color, especially the African-American community in my district, that you see getting directly impacted,” she said.

Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, an epidemiologist, said even if it was made public, existing data on coronavirus may not illustrate the full effect in communities of color.

“We're testing only people who come in with severe disease,” said El-Sayed, the former health director of the City of Detroit who ran for governor in 2018 as a Democrat.

“Frankly, I think that we would be very much underestimating the burden that this disease has in low-income communities and communities of color.”

I'm black sue, please stop trying to tell me what blacks are thinking. Funny how you are on this but you run from the reality of white racist American public policy. COVID19 will hit the black community hard due to the scarcity of medical facilities in that community, low incomes and the inability to afford health insurance. And that is due to racism. So like I said, you don't want to discuss white racist American public policy, but you want to run your mouth about some black churches in Detroit.

This is the last post in which I will address you. I agree that all of those are severe and lamentable issues and they will impact the community and COVID in Detroit and elsewhere. Due to poverty, lack of healthcare and the preponderance of health conditions in the black community such as COPD, high blood pressure, obesity and diabetes, it's going to be anywhere from difficult to devastating.

IT DOES NOT HELP when black people make the choice not to socially distance themselves in churches or in family gatherings.

That's it from me, I notice you are picking at me but ignore the actual racist comment in the thread. That's because I'm not actually a racist, which you know. So, I'm done.

Is this the same Sweet Sue who has spent two solid days in another thread arguing that closing our churches and arresting pastors is Nazi overreach? What's caused the change, Sue?

Read the OP and see if you get the point

Has there been more than 1 pastor arrested on television?

Not a single Black pastor has been arrested on television even though, as you see, Black churches are still meeting.

Now gosh ain't that a kick in the head? Later on, the Black community will say oh no oh no the disease is racist, the care we got is racist.

If only 1 pastor has been arrested on television, what does it matter if not a single black pastor has been arrested on television?

At least two now. Why must I do everyone's research for them?

Second pastor charged with violating public orders says church doors will still be open on Sunday | CNN

For the second time in two days, police have charged a pastor with defying public orders against large gatherings by holding church services with hundreds of members. And despite the charge, he says the church doors will still be open Sunday.

www.cnn.com

Was he also arrested on television?

Also, now you've shown 2 arrested pastors. Why did 1 of them need to be black? The article you just linked to said that pastor had 1000 people at the church, which violated an order. I noticed in your link regarding black churches that it didn't say anything about a similar circumstance. If none of the black churches had gatherings that large, or if they didn't violate any state or local orders, that would make arresting a black pastor on television a much less likely occurrence, wouldn't it?

My point is that you're complaining about one thing not following along with another thing, without showing that the two things are actually the same. Additionally, you've given 2 examples and for some reason made it seem as if they are automatically indicative of a larger trend. Beyond that, this is the first I've heard about the subject of black churches still having services during the pandemic. I don't frequent christianitytoday.com. If the "White Leftist Shamers" you are complaining about also haven't heard or read such stories, that would make it hard for them to comment on or shame anyone over for it.

I think people congregating for church (or temple, or mosque, etc.) with a pandemic going on, when social distancing is the watchword of the times, is foolish. That's especially true in a world where phone calls, text, and video chat are so easy to do. I don't care about the race or ethnicity of the people who go to their place of worship; black, Hispanic, white, Asian, Native Indian, now's not the time for a bunch of people in close quarters.

In Michigan there is an order of no gatherings more than 10 people. Guarantee those churches meeting in Detroit have over 10 people, and yes, all those Temple churches are still meeting in person. So really.

Sue, your article SAID that the governor of Michigan exempted churches from the gatherings-of-10 Order.

Read the article...it mentions black churches all over the nation that are meeting. Yet again, no arrests and strangely only the white churches are picked on. Are we going to pick on this all day or can you just admit that you all will pick on white pastors/churches but are going to never pick on a black church or a mosque? Cause c'mon.

You said:
But I don't think the point at all is what we think about how people exercise their religious faith. It's what THEY think and believe. My church is meeting virtually and I personally think that's the right call. But I am not in the position to put that on others' consciences. That's the first point.

That is what you said yesterday at 3:38 p.m. in a thread about arresting a white pastor for holding a mega church meeting. You went on to compare police arresting the pastor(s) to Nazi's.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, Sue. From where I sit, it seems white churches are free to defy the emergency orders, but black churches....not so much.

They can meet. I stand by anyone's Constitutionally protected right to meet. But only WHITE pastors are being arrested of course and WHITE LEFTISTS are only crying about white megachurches.

Identity Politics again, of course.

 

[OldLady]

Hey, you guys keep this up it's going to get moved to the Race forum. Beginning to sound like it. It's supposed to be about challenging the OP.

Racist, racist, racist racist racist--your side has made the word essentially meaningless. It's a fat "whatever" now

You're the one who used the word racist, not me.

 

[SweetSue92]

Hey, you guys keep this up it's going to get moved to the Race forum. Beginning to sound like it. It's supposed to be about challenging the OP.

Racist, racist, racist racist racist--your side has made the word essentially meaningless. It's a fat "whatever" now

You're the one who used the word racist, not me.

I know if a white person talks about anything black but doesn't speak the Democrat Party Line, racist.

This is me, scoffing again. Oh, and rolling my eyes.

 

[OldLady]

If anyone isn't already depressed enough, read this:

Most Houses Of Worship Are Closed Because Of The Coronavirus, But A New Poll Shows Some Are Still Attending Services

Seventeen percent of respondents to a recent poll said they were still attending worship services in person.

www.buzzfeednews.com

 

[g5000]

(Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

You made up some shit and then asked for ideas as to why your manufactured bullshit is real?

I wonder why you do that. Any ideas?

...Triumph Church...

https://www.linkedin.com/company/triumph-church

Triumph Church is a Christian megachurch located in Detroit, Michigan, USA.


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[OldLady]

Hey, you guys keep this up it's going to get moved to the Race forum. Beginning to sound like it. It's supposed to be about challenging the OP.

Racist, racist, racist racist racist--your side has made the word essentially meaningless. It's a fat "whatever" now

You're the one who used the word racist, not me.

I know if a white person talks about anything black but doesn't speak the Democrat Party Line, racist.

This is me, scoffing again. Oh, and rolling my eyes.

If you are going to talk to me, please try talking to ME and the things I SAY. I'm not a Democrat, for one thing, and for another thing, I was trying to help keep your thread on topic.

 

[SweetSue92]

(Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

You made up some shit and then asked for ideas as to why your manufactured bullshit is real?

I wonder why you do that. Any ideas?

...Triumph Church...

https://www.linkedin.com/company/triumph-church

Triumph Church is a Christian megachurch located in Detroit, Michigan, USA.


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Leftists never refer to Black churches as megachurches that I have ever read online.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

They are already starting in on the racism absolutely. Of course it's racism and not the fact that Blacks in Detroit are still congregating in family groups; still going to church in groups.

Although Detroit has the highest concentration of cases, several suburbs that surround the city have low rates of coronavirus including Dearborn, Allen Park and Grosse Pointe Park.

All are predominantly white.

Tlaib said “it is very clear that structural racism is showing its ugly face during this global pandemic.”

“It is communities of color, especially the African-American community in my district, that you see getting directly impacted,” she said.

Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, an epidemiologist, said even if it was made public, existing data on coronavirus may not illustrate the full effect in communities of color.

“We're testing only people who come in with severe disease,” said El-Sayed, the former health director of the City of Detroit who ran for governor in 2018 as a Democrat.

“Frankly, I think that we would be very much underestimating the burden that this disease has in low-income communities and communities of color.”

Maybe blacks think this whole virus thing is an over-hyped hoax -- you know, like you use to think....

So look at it on the bright side....this just shows that you are more advanced than those inferior blacks because now you fully support social distancing and you no longer think its all hype -- while those feeble-minded blacks still think its nothing to take serious....

#BLEXIT

In case this isn't clear: I think everyone who is any color has the same Constitutionally protected right to meet and worship together as anyone else. I am pointing out that one group is targeted for arrest and public scorn and another group is not, simple as that.

but what about black on black crime??

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

(Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

You made up some shit and then asked for ideas as to why your manufactured bullshit is real?

I wonder why you do that. Any ideas?

...Triumph Church...

https://www.linkedin.com/company/triumph-church

Triumph Church is a Christian megachurch located in Detroit, Michigan, USA.


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Leftists never refer to Black churches as megachurches that I have ever read online.

the Potters House is referred to as a megachurch......