Birth Rates

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

If there is no money to pay....then there is no business.

I owned a bakery. I set people to make tarts.
I paid $15/hr. Taxes, insurance, and etc raised that to actually paying $22/hr but they see the 15 and they watch the taxes get cut from that.

I got $6ea for tarts. I had a food cost of 35% for tarts. Meaning I had $2 of ingredients in the tarts. (Roughly and not precisely)
When they only make one tart every 15 minutes....I'm losing money while they demand to be paid more an hour.

I usually made up the difference because I could do a LOT more than that. I also could make a lot of other things incredibly fast. Paying them $15/hr already was charity at my expense.

Now....people won't spend $15 for a $6 tart....but if I was to actually configure margin for their labor (instead of mine) into the tart the bakery would go under. (I also would have packaging costs to yet pay too).

The kids making tarts were worth half to a third of what they were.
It's either accept the wages and have a job or get better....make 10-15 tarts an hour. Then I can afford to pay more. And would be ecstatic about it because I could never keep enough tarts in the case.

Welcome to small business.

 

[Unkotare]

The old tradition of getting married, having kids, was rinse repeat simply isn't appealing to a rapidly growing number of young women and there's nothing that's going to change the trend. Many women aspire for something different and they feel free to do what they wish. It's calledvliberty and freedom. Having kids is not a duty to the nation.

Why don't you just tattoo that onto your forehead and STFU already?

 

[initforme]

Why don't you just tattoo that onto your forehead and STFU already?

Its simy. a non story made into one. Total nothing burger. And why do you care so much anyway?

 

[Unkotare]

... why do you care so much anyway?

I love people and I love America. I am not some nihilistic old wierdo fantasizing about taking the world with me down the drain like you.

 

[Unkotare]

Replacement level fertility rate is 2.1 children per childbearing woman. Immigration has been keeping our head above water since the 70s.

 

[initforme]

The birth rate is healthy as ever.

 

[80zephyr]

The birth rate is healthy as ever.

Do you have a link?

 

[JohnDB]

Do you have a link?

Of course he doesn't....he is trolling like a bot.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The current U.S. birth rate is not considered healthy for the country’s long-term future. It’s hovering around 1.6 births per woman, well below the replacement level of 2.1 needed to sustain the population without immigration.

Why this matters:

• A shrinking population means fewer workers to support programs like Social Security and Medicare, which rely on a strong worker-to-retiree ratio.
• Universities and businesses are already feeling the pinch. Some colleges expect 100,000 fewer freshmen per year, with that gap widening to nearly a million annually within a decade.
• The economic engine slows when fewer people are available to start businesses, pay taxes, and drive demand for goods and services.

What’s being done:

• Propopals include baby bonuses, expanded child tax credits, and paid family leave, but experts sa
• • Cultural shifts—like delayed marriage, career prioritization, and changing views on parenthood—play a major role.
  • Immigration is often cited as a buffer, helping offset native-born population decline.
  In short, unless birth rates rise or immigration policies adapt, the U.S. could face a future with fewer young people, more elderly, and greater economic strain. Want to explore how other countries are handling similar challenges or what policies have worked elsewhere?
• • Cultural shifts—like delayed marriage, career prioritization, and changing views on parenthood—play a major role.
  • Immigration is often cited as a buffer, helping offset native-born population decline.
  • In short, unless birth rates rise or immigration policies adapt, the U.S. could face a future with fewer young people, more elderly, and greater economic strain.
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  • You should want to explore how other countries are handling similar challenges or what policies have worked elsewhere.

 

[initforme]

The birth rate ebbs and fliws like everything else. It will decrease more for a few years, then probably swing back. Who knows for sure? But theres no crisis right now.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The birth rate ebbs and fliws like everything else. It will decrease more for a few years, then probably swing back. Who knows for sure? But theres no crisis right now.

The evidence of my post shows you in the background whistling as you walk past the graveyard.

 

[initforme]

Delayed marriage is an increasing trend though. Young people are staying single longer so that theyre financially stronger and also ready for marriage. That is very sensible.

 

[frigidweirdo]

We have a real problem in most of the industrialized world.

Birth rates for women.

Currently we need a 2.7 live births per woman in the USA (or any nation in reality) to achieve stable populations. Meaning we aren't getting more crowded but we aren't going extinct either.

Currently we have a 1.7 birth rate for women.

Meaning every woman capable need to plan on having three children minimum....likely more.

How do we think this concept (a reality) is going to play out in the USA?

If you are a woman replying on this forum does the idea appeal to you?

If you are a man replying....how does the idea of fathering 3-4 children appeal to you?

Have you had any children? How many?

The problem comes about because pensions are a ponzi scheme.

How do you solve this? A lot of countries are looking to immigration. Japan has taken the stagnation route.

 

[initforme]

The problem comes about because pensions are a ponzi scheme.

How do you solve this? A lot of countries are looking to immigration. Japan has taken the stagnation route.

Pensions are no issue nor problem. Wages are lagging big time.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Pensions are no issue nor problem. Wages are lagging big time.

Pensions will be a huge problem. Germany will see it hit in 10 years time. China in 20 years time (though their pensions are laughable, like $300 a month)

 

[initforme]

Pensions will be a huge problem. Germany will see it hit in 10 years time. China in 20 years time (though their pensions are laughable, like $300 a month)

Keeping people working longer is a bad alternative and harmful

 

[frigidweirdo]

Keeping people working longer is a bad alternative and harmful

It's certainly the least desirable for people.

 

[80zephyr]

The birth rate ebbs and fliws like everything else. It will decrease more for a few years, then probably swing back. Who knows for sure? But theres no crisis right now.

No, it doesn't.

 

[Correll]

Delayed marriage is an increasing trend though. Young people are staying single longer so that theyre financially stronger and also ready for marriage. That is very sensible.

OR, maybe that is a symptom that our economic or educational polices SUCK and we need to change them so that young adults are in a position to start forming families while they are still young.

 

[Correll]

The problem comes about because pensions are a ponzi scheme.

How do you solve this? A lot of countries are looking to immigration. Japan has taken the stagnation route.

Immigration with below replacement levels leads to the native culture being... overwhelmed and destroyed.