Bin Laden is DEAD, thread from Hell

[mudwhistle]

"It is important for us to make sure that very graphic photos of someone who was shot in the head are not floating around as an incitement to additional violence or as a propaganda tool," Obama said. "That's not who we are. We don't trot out this stuff as trophies."

 

[mudwhistle]

The funny thing is, you probably really believe that.

Liberals just have no sense of humor.

Funny how you missed those two words.

Hmmmmmmm

You have a very intellectually dishonest style.

Just remember, I'm not your enemy.

 

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[Toro]

Leftwanker,
Obamarrhoidal,
Marxist Monumental Fraud,
Pathological Liar,
semi-black Political Charlatan,
his loyal stooges.

Do you have a routine time every day that you sit down to work on your marvellously inventive sobriquets, or do they come to you in your sleep?

Have you got any more?

gaytardma has 3,334 posts. They are all exactly the same.

Toroshit, I'll match my incomparable posts with your drek anytime w/r/t insight, humour, or historical accuracy ........ including your political stance which supports a political phoney who served as a "community organizer " in the criminal enterprise Acorn, had an established friendship with an Unrepentant Homicidal, Maniacal Commie/Terrorist Ayers from whose home this semi-black POS kicked off his Senatorial Career. And, if this wasn't enough to dissuade an Obamarrhoidal idjit like you from backing up this Black Racist National Disaster and his run up of the National Debt to FOURTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS, you shrug off his TWENTY YEAR TENURE with his (using his own words") "pastor, friend, mentor", the Black Racist Whackjob "Goddamn America" Wright's Cathedral of Hate.....only to have your idol select another Black Racist whackjob pastor Wallace Smith who postulates that Jim Crowe no longer is dressed up in white hoods but presently controls America adorned in fancy suits and expensive briefcases and, get this.......claims that his 3 yr old child babbles about being intimidated as being a 3/5th of an American while Obami Salaami is sitting in the pews as the President of the United States of America.

The above gives a snapshot of your perceptiveness, and political acumen in particular.

And, if this post is "the same" as the 3,334 of my other posts then you haven't learned a thing to improve your ridiculous presence on this planet, you insignificant fart.

BTW, I may be wrong, my guess is that Toroshit will somehow pretend that this supposedly identical post doesn't exist. Or, not be able to refute the FACTUAL INFO about his preposterous political idol.

Well, in fairness, they're not always exactly the same. Sometimes you throw in some racist shit as well.

 

[mudwhistle]

gaytardma has 3,334 posts. They are all exactly the same.

Toroshit, I'll match my incomparable posts with your drek anytime w/r/t insight, humour, or historical accuracy ........ including your political stance which supports a political phoney who served as a "community organizer " in the criminal enterprise Acorn, had an established friendship with an Unrepentant Homicidal, Maniacal Commie/Terrorist Ayers from whose home this semi-black POS kicked off his Senatorial Career. And, if this wasn't enough to dissuade an Obamarrhoidal idjit like you from backing up this Black Racist National Disaster and his run up of the National Debt to FOURTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS, you shrug off his TWENTY YEAR TENURE with his (using his own words") "pastor, friend, mentor", the Black Racist Whackjob "Goddamn America" Wright's Cathedral of Hate.....only to have your idol select another Black Racist whackjob pastor Wallace Smith who postulates that Jim Crowe no longer is dressed up in white hoods but presently controls America adorned in fancy suits and expensive briefcases and, get this.......claims that his 3 yr old child babbles about being intimidated as being a 3/5th of an American while Obami Salaami is sitting in the pews as the President of the United States of America.

The above gives a snapshot of your perceptiveness, and political acumen in particular.

And, if this post is "the same" as the 3,334 of my other posts then you haven't learned a thing to improve your ridiculous presence on this planet, you insignificant fart.

BTW, I may be wrong, my guess is that Toroshit will somehow pretend that this supposedly identical post doesn't exist. Or, not be able to refute the FACTUAL INFO about his preposterous political idol.

Well, in fairness, they're not always exactly the same. Sometimes you throw in some racist shit as well.

Yes, we could do without the racist comentary.

 

[bodecea]

gaytardma has 3,334 posts. They are all exactly the same.

Toroshit, I'll match my incomparable posts with your drek anytime w/r/t insight, humour, or historical accuracy ........ including your political stance which supports a political phoney who served as a "community organizer " in the criminal enterprise Acorn, had an established friendship with an Unrepentant Homicidal, Maniacal Commie/Terrorist Ayers from whose home this semi-black POS kicked off his Senatorial Career. And, if this wasn't enough to dissuade an Obamarrhoidal idjit like you from backing up this Black Racist National Disaster and his run up of the National Debt to FOURTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS, you shrug off his TWENTY YEAR TENURE with his (using his own words") "pastor, friend, mentor", the Black Racist Whackjob "Goddamn America" Wright's Cathedral of Hate.....only to have your idol select another Black Racist whackjob pastor Wallace Smith who postulates that Jim Crowe no longer is dressed up in white hoods but presently controls America adorned in fancy suits and expensive briefcases and, get this.......claims that his 3 yr old child babbles about being intimidated as being a 3/5th of an American while Obami Salaami is sitting in the pews as the President of the United States of America.

The above gives a snapshot of your perceptiveness, and political acumen in particular.

And, if this post is "the same" as the 3,334 of my other posts then you haven't learned a thing to improve your ridiculous presence on this planet, you insignificant fart.

BTW, I may be wrong, my guess is that Toroshit will somehow pretend that this supposedly identical post doesn't exist. Or, not be able to refute the FACTUAL INFO about his preposterous political idol.

Well, in fairness, they're not always exactly the same. Sometimes you throw in some racist shit as well.

Homophobic too.

 

[boedicca]

So, is Obama going to Disney Land this weekend or what?

 

[bodecea]

So, is Obama going to Disney Land this weekend or what?

 

[boedicca]

AHAHAHAHA!!!!

Obama handled the operation to kill Bin Laden quite well, but the PR Aftermath is snowballing into a big ol' mess.


Best headline in ages.:

Obama Administration takes victory lap in clown car

Tomorrow Obama is going to Ground Zero, his first visit there as president. He invited George Bush, who declined. Guess Bush was paying attention to what happened to Paul Ryan when he accepted an invitation from Obama. Donald Trump and a few Supreme Court Justices know a little bit about it too. When you only reach across the aisle to slap your opponents in the face, eventually they stop showing up. But hey, it’s entirely possible that Obama will use this moment to show some bipartisanship instead of just saying, “I’m really bipartisan, you guys” and then attacking people who disagree with him. Hey, it could happen.

For more on how the Greatest President in U.S. History is managing to turn a near-perfect military and intelligence victory into a snowballing public-relations fiasco, see Stephen Green (“The Gang That Could Shoot Straight — But Not Much Else&#8221 and Andrew Malcolm (“Osama bin Laden dead: Yes, SEALs were in on the raid, but aides hail Obama’s office bravery&#8221.

And if it irks you that anybody’s daring to criticize the President of the United States for not doing everything perfectly after a big win: now you know how we felt for 8 years.

P.S. Reuters: Photos show three dead men at bin Laden raid house.

P.P.S. Thought experiment: If Osama Bin Laden had been killed by U.S. troops between September 11, 2001 and January 20, 2009, would you have wanted to see pictures? Do you now? Are they different answers? If so, why?

P.P.P.S. HuffPo: Administration Grows Frustrated As Conversation Shifts From Bin Laden To Waterboarding. What a shame, the peasants won’t stick to the script. A couple of key grafs:

Defenders of the interrogation technique raised the issue, earning write-ups in several high-profile publications, including The New York Times and Time magazine. It was also put forward in most bin Laden-related news interviews with Obama officials. The problem, those officials stress, is that questioning the effectiveness of waterboarding in the bin Laden case oversimplifies a complex issue to which there may not be any concrete answers.

Ever notice how much more “complex” and “without concrete answers” everything is when the president is a Democrat?

And:

By most accounts, harsh interrogation measures including waterboarding did not play a role in helping to track bin Laden’s whereabouts or his associates. According to the Times, in 2002 and 2003 “interrogators first heard about a Qaeda courier who used the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti” — the same courier who would ultimately lead the CIA to bin Laden’s location. But, the Times reported, “his name was just one tidbit in heaps of uncorroborated claims.”

“Waterboarding had nothing to do with finding Bin Laden, except for, um, er, uh, uncovering the clue that led to finding Bin Laden.” Good stuff. Dismissing the courier’s name because it was just one of many clues is like dismissing finding a needle because it was in a big stack of hay.

P.P.P.P.S. Damian Thompson: That White House clarification in full.

P.P.P.P.P.S. Bookworm Room has a numbered list of the changes to the official story. There are 26 so far, but keep in mind that it’s only been three and a half days.


Obama Administration takes victory lap in clown car | The Daily Caller

 

[Ravi]

more sour grapes, oh my!

 

[BrianH]

but we're only counting the americans

Can you imagine how many additional millions would have died if the Allies had not stopped him?

but 480,000 americans would have been alive. that's what the world wants right? us to stay out of their business.

It wasn't their business anymore when the Japs bombed us and the Germans started sinking our ships in the Atlantic..............

 

[BrianH]

We all know that "American" is a concept which you don't and will never grasp.

The Russians got Hitler, not the Americans

America did not lose 450,000 against Hitler, there were two fronts

actually hitler killed himself. actually it was on eisenhowers orders that the russians be given the upportunity to take berlin even though patton would have gotten there first.

Which was smart because we would have lost more taking Berlin.

 

[BrianH]

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The picture they're looking at is a photoshopped fake from 2006. You can google the actual picture....

 

[Ravi]

Here's a rally Dicca and the other lunatics would probably enjoy participating in:

Pakistan Islamists to protest against U.S. bin Laden raid | TPM News Pages

 

[mudwhistle]

AHAHAHAHA!!!!

Obama handled the operation to kill Bin Laden quite well, but the PR Aftermath is snowballing into a big ol' mess.


Best headline in ages.:

Obama Administration takes victory lap in clown car

Tomorrow Obama is going to Ground Zero, his first visit there as president. He invited George Bush, who declined. Guess Bush was paying attention to what happened to Paul Ryan when he accepted an invitation from Obama. Donald Trump and a few Supreme Court Justices know a little bit about it too. When you only reach across the aisle to slap your opponents in the face, eventually they stop showing up. But hey, it’s entirely possible that Obama will use this moment to show some bipartisanship instead of just saying, “I’m really bipartisan, you guys” and then attacking people who disagree with him. Hey, it could happen.

For more on how the Greatest President in U.S. History is managing to turn a near-perfect military and intelligence victory into a snowballing public-relations fiasco, see Stephen Green (“The Gang That Could Shoot Straight — But Not Much Else”) and Andrew Malcolm (“Osama bin Laden dead: Yes, SEALs were in on the raid, but aides hail Obama’s office bravery”).

And if it irks you that anybody’s daring to criticize the President of the United States for not doing everything perfectly after a big win: now you know how we felt for 8 years.

P.S. Reuters: Photos show three dead men at bin Laden raid house.

P.P.S. Thought experiment: If Osama Bin Laden had been killed by U.S. troops between September 11, 2001 and January 20, 2009, would you have wanted to see pictures? Do you now? Are they different answers? If so, why?

P.P.P.S. HuffPo: Administration Grows Frustrated As Conversation Shifts From Bin Laden To Waterboarding. What a shame, the peasants won’t stick to the script. A couple of key grafs:

Defenders of the interrogation technique raised the issue, earning write-ups in several high-profile publications, including The New York Times and Time magazine. It was also put forward in most bin Laden-related news interviews with Obama officials. The problem, those officials stress, is that questioning the effectiveness of waterboarding in the bin Laden case oversimplifies a complex issue to which there may not be any concrete answers.

Ever notice how much more “complex” and “without concrete answers” everything is when the president is a Democrat?

And:

By most accounts, harsh interrogation measures including waterboarding did not play a role in helping to track bin Laden’s whereabouts or his associates. According to the Times, in 2002 and 2003 “interrogators first heard about a Qaeda courier who used the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti” — the same courier who would ultimately lead the CIA to bin Laden’s location. But, the Times reported, “his name was just one tidbit in heaps of uncorroborated claims.”

“Waterboarding had nothing to do with finding Bin Laden, except for, um, er, uh, uncovering the clue that led to finding Bin Laden.” Good stuff. Dismissing the courier’s name because it was just one of many clues is like dismissing finding a needle because it was in a big stack of hay.

P.P.P.P.S. Damian Thompson: That White House clarification in full.

P.P.P.P.P.S. Bookworm Room has a numbered list of the changes to the official story. There are 26 so far, but keep in mind that it’s only been three and a half days.


Obama Administration takes victory lap in clown car | The Daily Caller

Racist.

 

[iggy pop]

Liberals just have no sense of humor.

Funny how you missed those two words.

Hmmmmmmm

You have a very intellectually dishonest style.

Just remember, I'm not your enemy.

Yea you are. You're straight

 

[iggy pop]

Toroshit, I'll match my incomparable posts with your drek anytime w/r/t insight, humour, or historical accuracy ........ including your political stance which supports a political phoney who served as a "community organizer " in the criminal enterprise Acorn, had an established friendship with an Unrepentant Homicidal, Maniacal Commie/Terrorist Ayers from whose home this semi-black POS kicked off his Senatorial Career. And, if this wasn't enough to dissuade an Obamarrhoidal idjit like you from backing up this Black Racist National Disaster and his run up of the National Debt to FOURTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS, you shrug off his TWENTY YEAR TENURE with his (using his own words") "pastor, friend, mentor", the Black Racist Whackjob "Goddamn America" Wright's Cathedral of Hate.....only to have your idol select another Black Racist whackjob pastor Wallace Smith who postulates that Jim Crowe no longer is dressed up in white hoods but presently controls America adorned in fancy suits and expensive briefcases and, get this.......claims that his 3 yr old child babbles about being intimidated as being a 3/5th of an American while Obami Salaami is sitting in the pews as the President of the United States of America.

The above gives a snapshot of your perceptiveness, and political acumen in particular.

And, if this post is "the same" as the 3,334 of my other posts then you haven't learned a thing to improve your ridiculous presence on this planet, you insignificant fart.

BTW, I may be wrong, my guess is that Toroshit will somehow pretend that this supposedly identical post doesn't exist. Or, not be able to refute the FACTUAL INFO about his preposterous political idol.

Well, in fairness, they're not always exactly the same. Sometimes you throw in some racist shit as well.

Homophobic too.

Why do you have to make everything a gay issue?

 

[iggy pop]

Can you imagine how many additional millions would have died if the Allies had not stopped him?

but 480,000 americans would have been alive. that's what the world wants right? us to stay out of their business.

It wasn't their business anymore when the Japs bombed us and the Germans started sinking our ships in the Atlantic..............

Well let's see. Weren't we supplying arms to England and putting the squeeze on japanese oil and rubber supplies? We made it our business by sticking our nose in it.

 

[boedicca]

Another RACIST dares to critique the PR DEBACLE:

We should not forget the bottom line in this: bin Laden was justifiably and legally killed by brave and skilled US Navy SEALs. The operation was audacious and meticulous in its planning and execution. President Barack Obama made the call to carry out the raid and his decision was vindicated in spades.

Having said that, the messiness since then has taken much of the sheen off this success, temporarily at least. Here’s a summary of what went wrong once the most difficult bit had been achieved:

1. It took nearly three days to decide not to release the photographs. I think there was a case for not releasing the pictures, though on balance I think disclosure would have been best. But whichever way Obama went on this, the decision should have been made quickly, on Monday. By letting the world and his dog debate the issue for so long and then say no made the administration look indecisive and appear that it had something to hide. It will fuel the conspiracy theories. And the pictures will surely be leaked anyway.

2. To say that bin Laden was armed and hiding behind a wife being used as a human shield was an unforgiveable embellishment. The way it was expressed by John Brennan was to mock bin Laden as being unmanly and cowardly. It turned out to be incorrect and gave fuel, again, to conspiracy theories as well as accusations of cover-ups and illegality. Of all the mistakes of the week, this was by far the biggest.

3. It was a kill mission and no one should have been afraid to admit that. Bin Laden was a dead man as soon as the SEAL Team landed. There’s nothing wrong with that but the Obama administration should have been honest about it rather than spinning tales about bin Laden having a gun, reaching for a gun (the latest) and resisting (without saying how he resisted).

4. Too much information was released, too quickly and a lot of it was wrong. When it made the administration look good, the information flowed freely. When the tide turned, Jay Carney, Obama’s spokesman, clammed up completely. I’m a journalist; I like it when people talk about things. But from the administration’s perspective, it would have been much better to have given a very sparse, accurate description of what happened without going into too much detail, especially about the intelligence that led to the compound (an account which is necessarily suspect).

5. Obama tried to claim too much credit. Don’t get me wrong, he was entitled to a lot of credit. but sometimes less is more and it’s better to let facts speak for themselves. We didn’t need official after official to say how “gutsy” Obama was. Far better to have heaped praise on the CIA and SEALs (which, to be fair, was done most of the time) and talked less about Obama’s decision-making. And a nod to President George W. Bush would have been classy – and good politics for Obama...

(five more ways at the link)...

10 ways Barack Obama botched the aftermath of the masterful operation to kill Osama bin Laden – Telegraph Blogs