Bill O'Reilly

[wihosa]

I believe in god, but don't follow religion. Religion is the tool used to control people who have faith.

Very true. Why do you believe there is a god?

For the record, I'm agnostic. Simply said I don't know.

 

[LoudMcCloud]

I try to be more like nothingness. Can you image?

The most powerful thing in the universe is the space between us. For example, a house is nothing without space. You need rooms, hallways, doorways, etc. Without the space between things, nothing could exist.

 

[LoudMcCloud]

The highest truth cannot be put into words, therefore, the greatest teacher has nothing to say. They simply give themselves in service and never worry.

 

[wihosa]

Sounds like mumbo jumbo to me.

You believe in god for the same reason as everyone who believes, because you want to.

I'm not saying you shouldn't, just that there is no proof, in fact no evidence for a god, so believing in god is a choice one makes.

Personally I need a rational reason to believe something. I have a science based belief system not a myth based belief system.

But I am agnostic which is to say, I simply don't know. I don't believe there is a god. I don't believe there is no god.

When I die, I'll find out...or not.

 

[yidnar]

The only thing that's under attack are what's left of O'Riled Up's brain cells.

Just to be clear, Marc, there won't be any communists in heaven. You can choose to serve God or you can choose to serve satan but you cannot serve both of them. Communism is the devils religion. Follow it and you are following him...........straight down to hell.

Isn't it interesting how communists always claim to be atheists yet they are most known for torturing christians in their communist prisons until they can either force them to deny Christ ( who they claim doesn't exist ) or die? What effort the communist puts into fighting against a God who they claim doesn't exist. Doesn't make sense does it? Why do they rape nuns in their prison cells? Why do they force Muslims to sit on their Korans with a bare bottom in those prison cells ( all of this has been witnessed by christians and more ) why do they force priests to give a black mass to satan with an inverted cross when they claim even the devil doesn't exist? Could it be because they are liars? Yes. It could and it is the reason. Communists are the avowed enemies of G-d of Israel. The despise the G-d of the Torah and wish to cast him down from his throne. Marx said so, right? Bet he'd like another chance about now! Hell is hot you know...

- Jeremiah

Communism has zero to do with religion or atheism. Or for that matter any kind of foreign policies. It has a lot more to do with the Old Testament (Acts), so depending on what you define as "devil"...

Communism has to do with community, as opposed to individualism. That's why the word is based on the same root. So humans are social animals who live in communities in their natural order, communism cannot be a "devil's religion". It's not a religion at all.

The devil's religion, if there is such a thing, would be Ignorance. Something tells me you're pretty highly placed in it. And thus we return to the topic of Bull O'Reilly, high priest of the "war on Christmas". It's his sacrament to score ratings from the intellectually unwashed masses.

Now he's branched out to a pagan fertility rite. Ratings must be slumping again.

one of Obamas Idols states differently .Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I am not Christian, however, I assume I'll be fighting side by side with them against tyranny.

You're on the right side. Glad to have ya. - Jeremiah

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Just to be clear, Marc, there won't be any communists in heaven. You can choose to serve God or you can choose to serve satan but you cannot serve both of them. Communism is the devils religion. Follow it and you are following him...........straight down to hell.

Isn't it interesting how communists always claim to be atheists yet they are most known for torturing christians in their communist prisons until they can either force them to deny Christ ( who they claim doesn't exist ) or die? What effort the communist puts into fighting against a God who they claim doesn't exist. Doesn't make sense does it? Why do they rape nuns in their prison cells? Why do they force Muslims to sit on their Korans with a bare bottom in those prison cells ( all of this has been witnessed by christians and more ) why do they force priests to give a black mass to satan with an inverted cross when they claim even the devil doesn't exist? Could it be because they are liars? Yes. It could and it is the reason. Communists are the avowed enemies of G-d of Israel. The despise the G-d of the Torah and wish to cast him down from his throne. Marx said so, right? Bet he'd like another chance about now! Hell is hot you know...

- Jeremiah

Communism has zero to do with religion or atheism. Or for that matter any kind of foreign policies. It has a lot more to do with the Old Testament (Acts), so depending on what you define as "devil"...

Communism has to do with community, as opposed to individualism. That's why the word is based on the same root. So humans are social animals who live in communities in their natural order, communism cannot be a "devil's religion". It's not a religion at all.

The devil's religion, if there is such a thing, would be Ignorance. Something tells me you're pretty highly placed in it. And thus we return to the topic of Bull O'Reilly, high priest of the "war on Christmas". It's his sacrament to score ratings from the intellectually unwashed masses.

Now he's branched out to a pagan fertility rite. Ratings must be slumping again.

one of Obamas Idols states differently .Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

Alinsky was a satanist also. He dedicated his book, "Rules for Radicals" to Lucifer ( the devil ) Why did Alinsky dedicate his book to Lucifer? Well, in the dedication he says that Lucifer was the first radical to win a kingdom. Imagine the stupidity of that statement. Satan was the first radical to win a kingdom called hell so that is Alinsky's hero? Really?! Satan doesn't own hell. That is a temporary situation because at the end of this age he is going to be bound by a chain and thrown in the pit. Hardly a ruler over Hell by any stretch of the imagination. A captive? Yes!! 10,000 times over! Here is some good advice for communist satanists who think lifting up satan is a good idea. First read the bible from cover to cover. The bible says God won. The battle isn't even a battle because lucifers fate has been sealed. He is doomed. Now who cares to join him down there? - Jeremiah

 

[yidnar]

Just to be clear, Marc, there won't be any communists in heaven. You can choose to serve God or you can choose to serve satan but you cannot serve both of them. Communism is the devils religion. Follow it and you are following him...........straight down to hell.

Isn't it interesting how communists always claim to be atheists yet they are most known for torturing christians in their communist prisons until they can either force them to deny Christ ( who they claim doesn't exist ) or die? What effort the communist puts into fighting against a God who they claim doesn't exist. Doesn't make sense does it? Why do they rape nuns in their prison cells? Why do they force Muslims to sit on their Korans with a bare bottom in those prison cells ( all of this has been witnessed by christians and more ) why do they force priests to give a black mass to satan with an inverted cross when they claim even the devil doesn't exist? Could it be because they are liars? Yes. It could and it is the reason. Communists are the avowed enemies of G-d of Israel. The despise the G-d of the Torah and wish to cast him down from his throne. Marx said so, right? Bet he'd like another chance about now! Hell is hot you know...

- Jeremiah

Communism has zero to do with religion or atheism. Or for that matter any kind of foreign policies. It has a lot more to do with the Old Testament (Acts), so depending on what you define as "devil"...

Communism has to do with community, as opposed to individualism. That's why the word is based on the same root. So humans are social animals who live in communities in their natural order, communism cannot be a "devil's religion". It's not a religion at all.

The devil's religion, if there is such a thing, would be Ignorance. Something tells me you're pretty highly placed in it. And thus we return to the topic of Bull O'Reilly, high priest of the "war on Christmas". It's his sacrament to score ratings from the intellectually unwashed masses.

Now he's branched out to a pagan fertility rite. Ratings must be slumping again.

one of Obamas Idols states differently .Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

i find it somewhat telling that your dear leader was greatly influenced by a book that was dedicated to the devil !!

 

[yidnar]

Communism has zero to do with religion or atheism. Or for that matter any kind of foreign policies. It has a lot more to do with the Old Testament (Acts), so depending on what you define as "devil"...

Communism has to do with community, as opposed to individualism. That's why the word is based on the same root. So humans are social animals who live in communities in their natural order, communism cannot be a "devil's religion". It's not a religion at all.

The devil's religion, if there is such a thing, would be Ignorance. Something tells me you're pretty highly placed in it. And thus we return to the topic of Bull O'Reilly, high priest of the "war on Christmas". It's his sacrament to score ratings from the intellectually unwashed masses.

Now he's branched out to a pagan fertility rite. Ratings must be slumping again.

one of Obamas Idols states differently .Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

Alinsky was a satanist also. He dedicated his book, "Rules for Radicals" to Lucifer ( the devil ) Why did Alinsky dedicate his book to Lucifer? Well, in the dedication he says that Lucifer was the first radical to win a kingdom. Imagine the stupidity of that statement. Satan was the first radical to win a kingdom called hell so that is Alinsky's hero? Really?! Satan doesn't own hell. That is a temporary situation because at the end of this age he is going to be bound by a chain and thrown in the pit. Hardly a ruler over Hell by any stretch of the imagination. A captive? Yes!! 10,000 times over! Here is some good advice for communist satanists who think lifting up satan is a good idea. First read the bible from cover to cover. The bible says God won. The battle isn't even a battle because lucifers fate has been sealed. He is doomed. Now who cares to join him down there? - Jeremiah

the thing that i find alarming is that Obama stated that he was greatly influenced by the Author and his writings !!

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

LoudMcCloud - One day when I was writing on this board it dawned on me that many people on this board who are against communism / against the evil that is bearing down on America - yet make no profession of faith? That God already knows who all of you are and his intention is to save you guys - you are not goats in other words - you are the lost sheep he left the 99 for. It doesn't matter to me where your faith is right now, that can change on a dime. The important thing is there is no question in my mind that God sees your hearts and he is going to bless you for it. The greatest obstacle between God and man is religion. Religion is nothing. It is about relationship. Not rituals. People caught up in rituals are striving. There isn't any reason to strive, Jesus finished striving for us at the cross. You couldn't be more pleasing to God than you are right now. He loves you just as you are. You are precious in His sight and no one elses opinion matters.

-Jeremiah

 

[wihosa]

President Obama idolizes Saul Alinsky? What orifice did you pull that from?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Great point, Yidnar. Expect the Obamites to go into hiding now. - Jeremiah

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

President Obama idolizes Saul Alinsky? What orifice did you pull that from?

Obamas mouth.

 

[editec]

Oh, please, do spare us this blather...

everything that Bill O'Reilly stands for is an attack on Christian values.

 

[wihosa]

Clapping hands don't make it so.
You right wingers are consumed by hatred, is that gods way?

 

[yidnar]

Clapping hands don't make it so.
You right wingers are consumed by hatred, is that gods way?

did or did not Obama say he was influenced by Rules for Radicals ??did he not say it was one of his playbooks for community organizing ??

 

[Pogo]

Communism has zero to do with religion or atheism. Or for that matter any kind of foreign policies. It has a lot more to do with the Old Testament (Acts), so depending on what you define as "devil"...

Communism has to do with community, as opposed to individualism. That's why the word is based on the same root. So humans are social animals who live in communities in their natural order, communism cannot be a "devil's religion". It's not a religion at all.

The devil's religion, if there is such a thing, would be Ignorance. Something tells me you're pretty highly placed in it. And thus we return to the topic of Bull O'Reilly, high priest of the "war on Christmas". It's his sacrament to score ratings from the intellectually unwashed masses.

Now he's branched out to a pagan fertility rite. Ratings must be slumping again.

one of Obamas Idols states differently .Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

Alinsky was a satanist also. He dedicated his book, "Rules for Radicals" to Lucifer ( the devil ) Why did Alinsky dedicate his book to Lucifer? Well, in the dedication he says that Lucifer was the first radical to win a kingdom. Imagine the stupidity of that statement. Satan was the first radical to win a kingdom called hell so that is Alinsky's hero? Really?! Satan doesn't own hell. That is a temporary situation because at the end of this age he is going to be bound by a chain and thrown in the pit. Hardly a ruler over Hell by any stretch of the imagination. A captive? Yes!! 10,000 times over! Here is some good advice for communist satanists who think lifting up satan is a good idea. First read the bible from cover to cover. The bible says God won. The battle isn't even a battle because lucifers fate has been sealed. He is doomed. Now who cares to join him down there? - Jeremiah

--- aaand right back to "Satanism". Ho-kaay. I think this is because jokes sail over your head and obviously so does any deeper or metaphorical meaning.

What's mentioned in Allinsky's book (I looked this up) is Lucifer, not Satan (Lucifer = 'bringer of light') which is an allegory for, as he describes, the "first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment". In other words he's using a known mythological (mythological: fairy tale) figure to make an inspirational point about rebellion. It doesn't mean the writer believes in Lucifer (or Satan, or anything else) any more than an atheist using the prhrase "god only knows" is an invocation of religious faith.

A representation that sailed far over your head. There's no such thing as "Satanism" except in the reactionary minds of tiny little minded perverts who constantly go around inventing demons to point at -- or exploit the ignorance of the gullible.

As noted earlier, "Satan" is the invention of some organised religion propagandist bent on dividing the world into a simplistic dichotomy of "good versus evil" for the simple unsophisticated minds of ancient simple unsophisticated peoples. To paraphrase Voltaire, where Satan does not exist, it is necessary for Christianism to invent him. It's a marketing tool, generically known as fearmongering. And he has nothing to do with communism, as you were ridiculously promulgating then, and he has nothing to do with Alinksy, as you're trying to do now, and even less with O'bama, since all that is is an association fallacy based on his reading the book of a mythological idea that doesn't exist in the real world anyway.

Which completely smacks of book-burning, but that's another topic.

But let's add this to the list of what this topic is not about:

• communism
• Karl Marx
• Adolf Hitler
• Barack Obama
• Saul Alinsky
• Karl Marx
• General bullshit

Did I leave any out?

Sorry but the world is not a fricking "Doctor Doom" comic book. Satan (Doctor Doom, Emmanuel Goldstein, whoever you want) is a simplified allegory for the unknown -- the inherent fears of humanity dumbed-down into a fake villain so the simple can personify those unknowns and therefore not have to think any deeper about Fate. "He" comes from the same source as the boogeyman and the monsters under the bed when the light goes out -- ignorance.

Time to grow up, stop running away and deal with the real world now; monsters don't magically appear under the bed just because it's dark.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Clapping hands don't make it so.
You right wingers are consumed by hatred, is that gods way?

Exactly, because most Christians are very dogmatic, and anything that goes against their particular dogma is considered "sinful" by them, because you don't believe as they do.

They then tell you how bad a person you are for not believing as they do.

Personally? I think that everyone could benefit from investigating other belief systems than the one they grew up with.

I also believe religion is a way to teach you about God, but if you only stay in your own little belief bubble (i.e. your dogma), you lose out on a lot of information that could expand your view of who God really is.

God is too big to be confined to just one belief system.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

one of Obamas Idols states differently .Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

Alinsky was a satanist also. He dedicated his book, "Rules for Radicals" to Lucifer ( the devil ) Why did Alinsky dedicate his book to Lucifer? Well, in the dedication he says that Lucifer was the first radical to win a kingdom. Imagine the stupidity of that statement. Satan was the first radical to win a kingdom called hell so that is Alinsky's hero? Really?! Satan doesn't own hell. That is a temporary situation because at the end of this age he is going to be bound by a chain and thrown in the pit. Hardly a ruler over Hell by any stretch of the imagination. A captive? Yes!! 10,000 times over! Here is some good advice for communist satanists who think lifting up satan is a good idea. First read the bible from cover to cover. The bible says God won. The battle isn't even a battle because lucifers fate has been sealed. He is doomed. Now who cares to join him down there? - Jeremiah

--- aaand right back to "Satanism". Ho-kaay. I think this is because jokes sail over your head and obviously so does any deeper or metaphorical meaning.

What's mentioned in Allinsky's book (I looked this up) is Lucifer, not Satan (Lucifer = 'bringer of light') which is an allegory for, as he describes, the "first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment". In other words he's using a known mythological (mythological: fairy tale) figure to make an inspirational point about rebellion. It doesn't mean the writer believes in Lucifer (or Satan, or anything else) any more than an atheist using the prhrase "god only knows" is an invocation of religious faith.

A representation that sailed far over your head. There's no such thing as "Satanism" except in the reactionary minds of tiny little minded perverts who constantly go around inventing demons to point at -- or exploit the ignorance of the gullible.

As noted earlier, "Satan" is the invention of some organised religion propagandist bent on dividing the world into a simplistic dichotomy of "good versus evil" for the simple unsophisticated minds of ancient simple unsophisticated peoples. To paraphrase Voltaire, where Satan does not exist, it is necessary for Christianism to invent him. It's a marketing tool, generically known as fearmongering. And he has nothing to do with communism, as you were ridiculously promulgating then, and he has nothing to do with Alinksy, as you're trying to do now, and even less with O'bama, since all that is is an association fallacy based on his reading the book of a mythological idea that doesn't exist in the real world anyway.

Which completely smacks of book-burning, but that's another topic.

But let's add this to the list of what this topic is not about:

• communism
• Karl Marx
• Adolf Hitler
• Barack Obama
• Saul Alinsky
• Karl Marx
• General bullshit

Did I leave any out?

Sorry but the world is not a fricking "Doctor Doom" comic book. Satan (Doctor Doom, Emmanuel Goldstein, whoever you want) is a simplified allegory for the unknown -- the inherent fears of humanity dumbed-down into a fake villain so the simple can personify those unknowns and therefore not have to think any deeper about Fate. "He" comes from the same source as the boogeyman and the monsters under the bed when the light goes out -- ignorance.

Time to grow up, stop running away and deal with the real world now; monsters don't magically appear under the bed just because it's dark.

Wrong. Lucifer is named in the bible as Gods arch enemy. He is indeed the god of communists whether they acknowledge that fact or not is a moot issue. They are doing his work. - Jeremiah

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Clapping hands don't make it so.
You right wingers are consumed by hatred, is that gods way?

Exactly, because most Christians are very dogmatic, and anything that goes against their particular dogma is considered "sinful" by them, because you don't believe as they do.

They then tell you how bad a person you are for not believing as they do.

Personally? I think that everyone could benefit from investigating other belief systems than the one they grew up with.

I also believe religion is a way to teach you about God, but if you only stay in your own little belief bubble (i.e. your dogma), you lose out on a lot of information that could expand your view of who God really is.

God is too big to be confined to just one belief system.

Wrong. He is confined to HIS WORD & bound to perform it. God has a system. The plan for His System is in the bible. It is all in there. There are no mistakes. God is not bound to act according to YOUR system but according to His Own.

If you go to work at McDonalds you'll find they have a system. They follow the directions, flip burger twice, two shakes of salt, lettuce mayo,etc. Go to New York you'll get the same exact Big Mac you'll get in California. Why? They are all on the same system and following it so the success is there. Same goes for the bible. We have a system. We follow it and we get answers to prayer, enjoy a great relationship with the creator and have a God to go to in a time of trouble. Why? Because Christians follow the system God has laid out in his Word.

Do not pray to allah and expect God to answer. He won't. He's not allah and he isn't hearing the prayers of idolaters because his word says so. You want to pray to him you come to him in the name of Jesus Christ his son. You haven't accepted Christ? There is a system to being born again. Read Romans 10:8 and do it. If you don't follow Gods plan you really can't blame him for the outcome. The way of the transgressor is hard.

- Jeremiah