Bill Maher Goes Off On Neil deGrasse Tyson

Really? I've been here since 2011. I've never seen you express anything but disdain for Obama.
Then you haven't bothered to look. I voted for him because he said he would end the opaqueness of the federal government that was the Bush administration, which I despised.

But he made it even worse, and moved us further down the road to authoritarianism than any president in my life.

He is the reason I stopped being a democrat.
 
Depends on the context of the article. If somebody is adminant about their beliefs and willing to engage to try and prove it then I’d be very curious to see what their draw is?

I imagine you’d agree with this if I painted it in the context of some modern day conspiracy theories that are commonly dismissed. The 2020 election was stolen, existence of UFOs, 911 / Kennedy assassination an inside job etc
I don’t think the “scientific American” would ever have a flat earther on their payroll, much less printing stories in the magazine.

That’s the appropriate analogy, the rest of those aren’t about scientific facts about the universe or the human body.

(Note: based on what we know, the “conspiracy theory” in regards to the Kennedy assassination is the Warren commission. Only a kook would think what they claimed is what happened)
 
Neil is a bit of a bloviating self important egotistical kinda guy. That said, when he sticks to his lane, I enjoy much of what he says.

When he imagines that his knowledge of science (which is impressive) somehow translates into his political opinions being substantive, he is of no value.
 
Not at all.

The problem with Clinton's modification to the Community Reinvestment Act (which has been around since the 1970's) is that it had no effect on the banking crisis. In fact, CRA loans were far more closely scrutinized


The majority of subprime loans were originated by non-CRA covered financial institutions. In fact, only about 25 percent of sub-prime loans were made by institutions covered by CRA.¹

CRA was passed in 1977. The explosive growth in subprime lending occurred more than two decades later, nearly doubling from 2001-2006 alone. No major changes to CRA were enacted during this time.
CRA does not mandate banks to make only home loans. Banks are encouraged to examine credit needs and lend appropriately based on these needs (for small business, home, and other types of loans).
CRA penalizes banks for reckless, irresponsible K and otherwise predatory lending.

What caused the 2008 Crash was 1) Banks making reckless loans to middle class people without income verifications to buy houses they planned to flip quickly, and selling those garbage mortgages as investments. The SEC provided very little oversight to this activity.
What are you even copy-pasting?

The CRA forced banks to take loans from low-income areas based on the ideology that “everyone deserves a home” (a whimsical, but harmful slogan)

Nobody said there’s not blame in the banks, but Clinton created pressure on the banks. Free market banks would have never taken those loans on.

It’s one of the many examples of democrat policy being good in intention but harmful in practice. And.. plenty of people could point to how the CRA would be harmful in this manner, but the Democrats stuck to the emotional appeal and made us all find out the hard way..

Just a lack of wisdom from your party
 
Neil is a bit of a bloviating self important egotistical kinda guy. That said, when he sticks to his lane, I enjoy much of what he says.

When he imagines that his knowledge of science (which is impressive) somehow translates into his political opinions being substantive, he is of no value.
I agree for the most part. But what political opinion do you think he expressed in his interview with Maher?
 
I don’t think the “scientific American” would ever have a flat earther on their payroll, much less printing stories in the magazine.

That’s the appropriate analogy, the rest of those aren’t about scientific facts about the universe or the human body.

(Note: based on what we know, the “conspiracy theory” in regards to the Kennedy assassination is the Warren commission. Only a kook would think what they claimed is what happened)
Have you read the entire article that is in question?
 
I agree for the most part. But what political opinion do you think he expressed in his interview with Maher?
I don’t recall claiming that he expressed a political opinion in that interview.

Although he might have simply acknowledged that the partisan political view of the ex-editor doesn’t qualify as “science.”
 
Have you read the entire article that is in question?
Here’s what they said. It’s an absolute claim:

The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are treated in sports. As an example, some endurance-running events allow the use of professional runners called pacesetters to help competitors perform their best. Men are not permitted to act as pacesetters in many women’s events because of the belief that they will make the women “artificially faster,” as though women were not actually doing the running themselves.

I’ll post the important part again:

The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are treated in sports

And again

The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are treated in sports

Since you fashion yourself a Kennedy assassination guru.. I’ll speak your language:

back, and to the left…
Back, and to the left..
Back, and to the left…

That’s an independent statement. Do you agree with it?
 
Neil deGrasse Tyson illustrates what is wrong with the left.

They just aren't real. They've been brainwashed into believing something that just isn't rational, and you cannot get them to change their minds.


Wow!

He's supposed to be a rilly, rilly smart guy?

He sounds as dumb as any lib-dem on this forum, saying idiotic nonsense to avoid conceding an obvious point. Maybe in long distance swimming women might have the advantage? Really?

Maybe Tyson really is smart. On some level, I'm sure that he is, in fact. But the lesson here is this: Being a Democrat makes you sound dumb. It makes you defend the indefensible, and if you ever allow yourself to talk one-on-one with a non-Democrat, you will sound like a moron.
 
I don’t recall claiming that he expressed a political opinion in that interview.

Although he might have simply acknowledged that the partisan political view of the ex-editor doesn’t qualify as “science.”
He acknowledged that she was fired and no longer writes for the mag and that the reputation of the mag shouldn’t sit on the actions of one editor.
 
Have you read the entire article that is in question?
Here’s some more “science”


Right under the headline:
“There is no scientific case for excluding them”

That’s factually false, and ascientific.. In an “esteemed” science magazine.

They are ideologues, not scientists.
 
I don’t recall claiming that he expressed a political opinion in that interview.

Although he might have simply acknowledged that the partisan political view of the ex-editor doesn’t qualify as “science.”
So you you say that he expressed political opinions i his interview with Maher or not?
 
He acknowledged that she was fired and no longer writes for the mag and that the reputation of the mag shouldn’t sit on the actions of one editor.
And the point was that her political spew had nothing to do with science which is ironic at best in a magazine about science.
 
Here’s what they said. It’s an absolute claim:

The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are treated in sports. As an example, some endurance-running events allow the use of professional runners called pacesetters to help competitors perform their best. Men are not permitted to act as pacesetters in many women’s events because of the belief that they will make the women “artificially faster,” as though women were not actually doing the running themselves.

I’ll post the important part again:

The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are treated in sports

And again

The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are treated in sports

Since you fashion yourself a Kennedy assassination guru.. I’ll speak your language:

back, and to the left…
Back, and to the left..
Back, and to the left…

That’s an independent statement. Do you agree with it?
Well since I read the article I understand the context and it makes much more sense than when you only read a sentence or paragraph.

The article goes into extreme details about the biological differences. Lays them out on a cellular, physical, hormonal, metabolic, and historical levels.

The quote you posted three times is about INEQUITY Not being about the inherent physical differences between males and females.

The authors then went on to explain the inequities and why they believe there is much more research and understanding to be had about the female body and how it can perform.

Here. Do yourself a favor before you continue playing expert off partial information and just read what the piece is actually about….

 
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Well since I read the article I understand the context and it makes much more sense than when you only read a sentence or paragraph.

The article goes into extreme details about the biological differences. Lays them out on a cellular, physical, hormonal, metabolic, and historical levels.

The quote you posted three times is about INEQUITY Not being about the inherent physical differences between males and females.

The authors then went on to explain the inequities and why they believe there is much more research and understanding to be had about the female body and how it can perform.

Here. Do yourself a favor before you continue playing expert off partial information and just read what the piece is actually about….

Why would the authors contradict themselves in their own article?

This is an absolute statement:

The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are treated in sports.

There’s no qualifiers. They state it as broad fact.
 
Why would the authors contradict themselves in their own article?

This is an absolute statement:

The inequity between male and female athletes is a result not of inherent biological differences between the sexes but of biases in how they are treated in sports.

There’s no qualifiers. They state it as broad fact.
Perhaps you’re not understanding the context of inequality they are speaking of… unequal treatment

They do not make the point at all in the article that males and females are biologically equal. They spend half the article pointing out the differences.
 
I say the editor discussed something about non science related in a scientific magazine.
Ok… but the OP and many in this thread are dogging on Tyson for being woke and taking that position. Is that what you saw as well? Him expressing a woke opinion?
 
Ok… but the OP and many in this thread are dogging on Tyson for being woke and taking that position. Is that what you saw as well? Him expressing a woke opinion?
Nope. He just chose to be obtuse towards what Maher was saying.

Meanwhile, what Maher said is the truth.
 
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