Biden’s economy hit with one-two punch of bad data.

[Marener]

2020, it went up to 66.5. That's bigger than 65.9, isn't it?

Who was president in 2020?

And what else happened in 2020?

Do you remember?

 

[Marener]

Unfortunately, for them, the American voter doesn’t go by graphs on election day

Yeah, because why would using facts and data be a good way to make decisions.

 

[Seymour Flops]

And what else happened in 2020?

Do you remember?

Lots of things. Tell me what you're referring to, and make your point, if you have one. Don't drag it out, just spit it out.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Yeah, because why would using facts and data be a good way to make decisions.

It wouldn't at all. Not if the facts and data are often phonied up for the benefit of politicians and a voter knows that he is suffering under the current administration.

 

[Marener]

Lots of things. Tell me what you're referring to, and make your point, if you have one. Don't drag it out, just spit it out.

Bans on foreclosures and evictions due to COVID.

You remember COVID, right?

 

[Marener]

It wouldn't at all. Not if the facts and data are often phonied up for the benefit of politicians and a voter knows that he is suffering under the current administration.

Conservatives have a habit of labeling things they don’t want to believe “phony”. Not because it’s actually phony but because they just want to live in their own little world.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Bans on foreclosures and evictions due to COVID.

You remember COVID, right?

How did that help Trump push homeownership to such a high level?

 

[Marener]

How did that help Trump push homeownership to such a high level?

He didn’t do shit.

There was a ban on foreclosures. Loan forbearance. Ban on evictions. Do you not understand how that would drive up home ownership?

 

[citygator]

How did that help Trump push homeownership to such a high level?

2020 housing survey was footnoted as inaccurate due to Covid. In person surveys were suspended and response rates were below statistically need levels.

“It is likely the results are distorted by the pandemic. Specifically, in-person interviews were suspended for the duration and replaced with telephone interview attempts when contact information was available. As a result, the response rate was lower in this report than the average response rates for 2019. Thus, the current report might show the trend, but we should exercise caution when using the absolute numbers of homeownership rates.”

 

[Seymour Flops]

He didn’t do shit.

There was a ban on foreclosures. Loan forbearance. Ban on evictions. Do you not understand how that would drive up home ownership?

Now I get you!

Praise Allah for the Trump administration's wisdom in implimenting the foreclosure bans!

 

[Seymour Flops]

2020 housing survey was footnoted as inaccurate due to Covid. In person surveys were suspended and response rates were below statistically need levels.

“It is likely the results are distorted by the pandemic. Specifically, in-person interviews were suspended for the duration and replaced with telephone interview attempts when contact information was available. As a result, the response rate was lower in this report than the average response rates for 2019. Thus, the current report might show the trend, but we should exercise caution when using the absolute numbers of homeownership rates.”

That is sooooo typical of leftists. Take data by a completely different method than in previous years, and then compare the differentially collected data sets to each other to claim some favorable outcome.

 

[citygator]

That is sooooo typical of leftists. Take data by a completely different method than in previous years, and then compare the differentially collected data sets to each other to claim some favorable outcome.

Surveys returned to normal in 2021. 2020 was a Covid shutdown In case you weren’t on planet earth.

 

[Marener]

Now I get you!

Praise Allah for the Trump administration's wisdom in implimenting the foreclosure bans!

Okay troll.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Surveys returned to normal in 2021. 2020 was a Covid shutdown In case you weren’t on planet earth.

I don't see how that excuses Marener for lying about the graph?

 

[Marener]

I don't see how that excuses Marener for lying about the graph?

No one is going to consider 2020 a valid data point given the unsustainable policies that led to it being an outlier.

Be an adult.

 

[Seymour Flops]

No one is going to consider 2020 a valid data point given the unsustainable policies that led to it being an outlier.

Be an adult.

So, why did you not tell the truth, with the disclaimer about 2020?

I don't see how 2020 gives you leave to lie.

 

[citygator]

I don't see how that excuses Marener for lying about the graph?

The point is… since you got lost… home ownership is strong. People aren’t struggling to afford homes.

 

[Marener]

So, why did you not tell the truth, with the disclaimer about 2020?

I don't see how 2020 gives you leave to lie.

I guess you missed the entire point.

Not surprising.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The point is… since you got lost… home ownership is strong. People aren’t struggling to afford homes.

I guess you missed the entire point.

Not surprising.

When you make your point by telling an obvious lie, and presenting data that shows that you are lying, it should not surprise you that you get called on the lie and your point gets lost. "Home ownership is strong" is a pretty vague statement, though I understand why you would shy away from statistics and data, having tripped yourself up so badly.

Home prices have skyrocketed, and I don't need a graph to tell me that. I just sold a home for far more than I had thought I would get for it unless I waited another ten to twenty years. Interest rates are up, and that makes it more expensive to buy a new home.

So, I'm renting for a year, and probably a few months after that, when I expect the prices and the interest rates to drop. Great for me, I have enough money to make moves like that. Not great for people struggling to achieve the American dream.

 

[Marener]

When you make your point by telling an obvious lie, and presenting data that shows that you are lying, it should not surprise you that you get called on the lie and your point gets lost. "Home ownership is strong" is a pretty vague statement, though I understand why you would shy away from statistics and data, having tripped yourself up so badly.

Home prices have skyrocketed, and I don't need a graph to tell me that. I just sold a home for far more than I had thought I would get for it unless I waited another ten to twenty years. Interest rates are up, and that makes it more expensive to buy a new home.

So, I'm renting for a year, and probably a few months after that, when I expect the prices and the interest rates to drop. Great for me, I have enough money to make moves like that. Not great for people struggling to achieve the American dream.

If you think 2020 disproves the point being made, you’re a moron.