"Biden's documents are different from Trump's documents"

[Godboy]

...you think Burisma owner....was Hunters partner?

You think Shokin...was investigating him by sitting on the case for two years without any movement?

Removing Shokin saved Burisma owner, right? WRONG, his case was finally advanced after Shokin was gone.

Look, you need stop posting your telephone gamed bs and go read Republican report on a this.

Redirect Notice

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Biden was properly conducting American foreign policy and Shokin's removal was applauded by IMF, DOS, Ukranian corruption watch groups and Shokin's own deputy, who quit office in protest of what he called "the swamp".

You know who applauded what Trump's foreign policy advisor described as "Ukranian drug deal"? Np one. No one applauds corruption.

You are rw are just helpless dupes, repeating to each other long ago refuted bullshit, unable to move on in your arguments to something true.

Well, they gave Hunter a board seat, so yeah, they seem to be partnered up.

 

[AntonToo]

Well, they gave Hunter a board seat, so yeah, they seem to be partnered up.

You shouldn't publicly shit yourself like this.

Burisma was not a partnership for there to be any partners. Biden had no ownership of the company, he was a salaried employee.

 

[AntonToo]

Why are Democrats spending a billion to fight corruption in Ukraine while they promote it here?

The billion was not to fight corruption, it was military and other aid. One CONDITION leveraged by that aid was Ukraine addressing corruption.

 

[easyt65]

That's right, Biden extorted Ukraine

Thank you.

 

[AntonToo]

Thank you.

Must you flaunt your shameless dishonesty?

 

[Faun]

One would assume that any president packing a box of classified materials would think to himself "those are now declassified", at which point they would be. Unless you can prove that he didnt think it, how could you possibly charge him with anything? The answer is, you cant charge him, which is why they wont.

Slobbers the lyin' idiot who insists Obama, not the NARA, has custody of his documents.

Press Statements in Response to Media Queries About Presidential Records

In response to recent media reports that generated a large number of queries about presidential records, we issued the following statements to the media: January 17, 2024, statement December 4, 2023, statement September 2, 2023, statement August 11, 2023, statement June 9, 2023, statement April...

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The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of Obama Presidential records when President Barack Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act (PRA). NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA. Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration.​

 

[Faun]

You consider it impossible that China donated that money in connection with Biden? You dems are asking us to overlook an awful lot of shady shit at every turn with this guy.

No, I don't consider it impossible. But you haven't shown it actually happened. You now posted links to 2 articles NOT showing China gave money to Biden while you falsely assert your links prove China gave money to Biden.

 

[Faun]

This whole exercise seems pointless, doesnt it? Why raid him in the first place? All presidents keep documents. Hell, most cabinet members probably keep documents. Hillary did, and she isnt the only one.

He was raided because he was refusing to return classified documents. That increased the urgency to retrieve them for national security purposes.

 

[Faun]

I know you dont believe it, but its true. He can declassify at will. Every president can. These are legal sources below, not political.


The U.S. classification system has three levels: top secret, secret and confidential.
“That is based on the level of damage that its release would cause to the national security of the United States,” Kel McClanahan, executive director of the National Security Counselors, said. “When you classify a document, that means that only people with a security clearance equal to the classification or higher can read it.”
A sitting U.S. president has wide-ranging authority to classify and declassify certain documents, but former presidents do not have authority over classification and declassification.
Current presidents can classify documents as long as they can “make a plausible argument that it is related to national security.” On the other hand, the president “doesn’t have to give any reason for declassifying” information, according to McClanahan.
“He can just say, ‘I decide that this should be declassified,’ and it’s declassified,” McClanahan said

Yes, the president can declassify documents, but there isn’t a set protocol they have to follow

Former President Trump claimed documents found at Mar-a-Lago were “all declassified.” We explain why sitting presidents can declassify documents and how it works.

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ABA Fact Check: Extent of Presidential Legal Authority to Declassify Materials Is Still Unclear

Most national security legal experts dismissed the former president’s suggestion that while in office he could declassify documents simply by thinking about it. But in theory, legal guidelines support his contention that a president has broad authority to formally declassify most documents that...

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Don’t Dismiss Trump’s Assertion of Presidential Power to Declassify Information

The country is focused on the Jan. 6 committee’s criminal referral of former President Trump to the Department of Justice (DOJ) for four alleged crimes, including inciting and abetting an insurrection. But Trump’s decision to stash classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago residence continues to be...

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Of course the president can declassify [most] at will. But he has to tell someone, otherwise, they're not declassified.

 

[Faun]

It doesnt matter....those records make him a felon

LOL

To be a felon, one must be convicted of a felony. You knee-jerk reactionists are a hoot!

 

[bripat9643]

Your logic is motivated by a bias. It’s not very useful.

A lawyer who comes across those documents would do the right thing and alert Biden, and indicate the best course is to tell NARA immediately and to search other locations for further documents.

You don’t need any weird conspiracies.

The best thing for Congress to do is indict Biden for espionage.

 

[Godboy]

You shouldn't publicly shit yourself like this.

Burisma was not a partnership for there to be any partners. Biden had no ownership of the company, he was a salaried employee.

Pff, your semantic argument isnt going to cut it, bro.

 

[Godboy]

No, I don't consider it impossible. But you haven't shown it actually happened. You now posted links to 2 articles NOT showing China gave money to Biden while you falsely assert your links prove China gave money to Biden.

Im not an investigator. How would i show anything? Im just discussing major news as us citizens do here every single day.

 

[Godboy]

Of course the president can declassify [most] at will. But he has to tell someone, otherwise, they're not declassified.

Not true. Not telling someone might be against procedure, but it isnt a crime. Big difference.

 

[Faun]

Taking the documents was illegal.
Didn't worry, Biden is a Democrat and the investigation will end tomorrow.

Well not because Biden's a Democrat; but due to not catching this prior to exceeding the statute of limitations.

 

[easyt65]

Must you flaunt your shameless dishonesty?

What dishonesty? You agreed - Biden engaged in extortion, he extorted the former PM of Ukraine. To you (and Democrats) the readon somehow nakes it ok - 'the ends justify the means'.

Why are you so ashamed to just say Biden enaged in extortion, especially if you think his doing so was ok?

Thete was no dishonesty from me.

 

[Faun]

The best thing for Congress to do is indict Biden for espionage.

Congress has no power to indict anyone.

Are you ever not a fucking moron?

Ever??

 

[Faun]

Im not an investigator. How would i show anything? Im just discussing major news as us citizens do here every single day.

Had your claims been true, there'd be verifiable reporting of them easily found on the Internet. Instead, you offered links which refuted your own claims.

 

[Faun]

Not true. Not telling someone might be against procedure, but it isnt a crime. Big difference.

It means the documents are still classified.

And yes, it's a crime because they're government records even if they're not classified at all.

 

[The Original Tree]

No intent, plus cooperation, plus handing over documents immediately. Things Trump never did.

He had the classified documents since 2016 and never turned them over until a whistleblower reported it.