Biden Signs Executive Order To End Private Prison Contracts

[Concerned American]

You can't be charged as a repeat offender if you haven't been convicted. Period. If the prosecutor convinces you (or your incompetent lawyer) that they can convict you as a repeat offender and you believe it, again that is your problem

Here's the source of my claim:

"In Arizona, repeat felony offenders face harsher sentencing guidelines than first-time offenders. When prosecutors “stack” charges, defendants can be sentenced as repeat offenders even if the defendant has no prior convictions.

"Under current guidelines, as long as a prosecutor can prove that crimes were committed on separate occasions, the crimes can be prosecuted in the same trial but for the second and subsequent offenses, the defendant is sentenced as a repeat offender."

In my experience a public defender's incompetence has more to do with the number of defendants she must represent than it does with her understanding of the law.

You should consider why there are so many Americans currently in prison. A young male with brown or black skin has more profit-generating potential inside a private prison than he does on the streets.

Private profits.
Social costs.

Linkie?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

I have seen it done to minority Conservatives, specifically dinesh d'souza.

Is this what you're referring to?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinesh_D%27Souza#:~:text=In%202014%2C%20D'Souza%20pleaded,probation%2C%20and%20a%20%2430%2C000%20fine.

"In 2014, D'Souza pleaded guilty in federal court to one felony charge of using a 'straw donor' to make an illegal campaign contribution to a 2012 United States Senate campaign.[13][14]

"He was sentenced to eight months in a halfway house near his home in San Diego, five years' probation, and a $30,000 fine.[15][16]

"In 2018, D'Souza was issued a pardon by President Donald Trump."

Yes. They basically bullied him in to pleaing, in just the manner you described.

Just imagine if he didn't have the money to afford his own legal counsel...He would have really been screwed...

However, if he was poor; he probably wouldn't be involved in any campaign donation schemes.....so it balances out

 

[surada]

Chick filet is also an early investor in private prisons. See Wackenhut.

Chick-Fil-A hits FAU this Fall

Chick-fil-A is one of the new dining options coming to FAU in fall 2014, according to a tweet from FAU Dining Services on May 1. Vice President for Executive Operations and Chief of Staff Stacy Volnick has confirmed that the new Chick-fil-A will be located in what is now Einstein Bros. Einstein...

www.upressonline.com

So, what? Are you trying to imply there is something wrong with that? Are you saying that Biden is targeting them because he si a partisan asshole?

Are you just stupid?

How can you have prison reform if prisons are profit sources?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Chick filet is also an early investor in private prisons. See Wackenhut.

Chick-Fil-A hits FAU this Fall

Chick-fil-A is one of the new dining options coming to FAU in fall 2014, according to a tweet from FAU Dining Services on May 1. Vice President for Executive Operations and Chief of Staff Stacy Volnick has confirmed that the new Chick-fil-A will be located in what is now Einstein Bros. Einstein...

www.upressonline.com

Chick filet is also an early investor in private prisons

Thanks for the link.

Do you have one that actually supports your claim?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Biden orders Justice Dept. to end use of private prisons

President Joe Biden on Tuesday ordered the Department of Justice to end its reliance on private prisons and acknowledge the central role government has played in implementing discriminatory housing policies.

www.startribune.com

"President Joe Biden on Tuesday will order the Department of Justice to end its reliance on private prisons [as well as] acknowledge the central role the government has played in implementing discriminatory housing policies, White House officials say. The order to end the reliance on privately run prisons directs the attorney general not to renew Justice Department contracts with privately operated criminal detention facilities. The latest executive actions come after Biden signed an order Monday reversing a Trump-era Pentagon policy that largely barred transgender people from serving in the military."

WTF?? Do you know how much money you costing investors in the private prison industry by doing this?? The private prison industry shot up like a rocket during the Trump admin; now these thug fascists are attacking private prisons?? This is obviously proof that BLM controls Biden; because this was the crap they were advocating for along with judicial, police and prison reform...

Why can't they just do what Trump did?? Just release a few people early here and there so you can claim that you are doing justice reform; but you aren't supposed to ACTUALLY do something..especially something like this that causes investors to lose money...It was bad enough we can no longer ban a bunch of cross dressing fags and queers from the military...but this attack on private prisons is even worse...

Private prisons go back to 1984. The big investors were Evangelical Christians like Hobby Lobby.. and I think Chick Filet.. They made a fortune in huge profits. The problem with prisons for profit is that they had to fill a bed quota. They hired the cheapest guards and served the cheapest food, but it has been a money maker. Its a horror story.

Private prisons are shrouded in secrecy. I took a job as a guard to get inside—then things got crazy

This is the biggest investigation we’ve ever published.

www.motherjones.com

On this I agree.

There is too much temptation to fill those empty cells when there is a profit motive.

There is too much temptation to fill those empty cells when there is a profit motive.

The state doesn't make a profit when they put people in jail. What's their motive again?

 

[noonereal]

Biden Signs Executive Order To End Private Prison Contracts

Good stuff!

Thanks for brining it to our attention.

 

[surada]

Biden orders Justice Dept. to end use of private prisons

President Joe Biden on Tuesday ordered the Department of Justice to end its reliance on private prisons and acknowledge the central role government has played in implementing discriminatory housing policies.

www.startribune.com

"President Joe Biden on Tuesday will order the Department of Justice to end its reliance on private prisons [as well as] acknowledge the central role the government has played in implementing discriminatory housing policies, White House officials say. The order to end the reliance on privately run prisons directs the attorney general not to renew Justice Department contracts with privately operated criminal detention facilities. The latest executive actions come after Biden signed an order Monday reversing a Trump-era Pentagon policy that largely barred transgender people from serving in the military."

WTF?? Do you know how much money you costing investors in the private prison industry by doing this?? The private prison industry shot up like a rocket during the Trump admin; now these thug fascists are attacking private prisons?? This is obviously proof that BLM controls Biden; because this was the crap they were advocating for along with judicial, police and prison reform...

Why can't they just do what Trump did?? Just release a few people early here and there so you can claim that you are doing justice reform; but you aren't supposed to ACTUALLY do something..especially something like this that causes investors to lose money...It was bad enough we can no longer ban a bunch of cross dressing fags and queers from the military...but this attack on private prisons is even worse...

Private prisons go back to 1984. The big investors were Evangelical Christians like Hobby Lobby.. and I think Chick Filet.. They made a fortune in huge profits. The problem with prisons for profit is that they had to fill a bed quota. They hired the cheapest guards and served the cheapest food, but it has been a money maker. Its a horror story.

Private prisons are shrouded in secrecy. I took a job as a guard to get inside—then things got crazy

This is the biggest investigation we’ve ever published.

www.motherjones.com

On this I agree.

There is too much temptation to fill those empty cells when there is a profit motive.

There is too much temptation to fill those empty cells when there is a profit motive.

The state doesn't make a profit when they put people in jail. What's their motive again?

The stockholders in private prison stocks do make a profit.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The stockholders in private prison stocks do make a profit.

And the state doesn't make a profit. The state has no motive to spend more money
simply to put more people in jail.

Any proof of your Hobby Lobby and Chik-Fil-A claims, or do you admit you were wrong?

 

[dblack]

And the state doesn't make a profit. The state has no motive to spend more money
simply to put more people in jail.

Not directly. But if they are 'connected' to people who do, agents of the state have ample incentive. For example:

Kids for cash scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And the state doesn't make a profit. The state has no motive to spend more money
simply to put more people in jail.

Not directly. But if they are 'connected' to people who do, agents of the state have ample incentive. For example:

Kids for cash scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We agree, the state has no profit motive.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The stockholders in private prison stocks do make a profit.

And the state doesn't make a profit. The state has no motive to spend more money
simply to put more people in jail.

Any proof of your Hobby Lobby and Chik-Fil-A claims, or do you admit you were wrong?

"The state has no motive to spend more money"

I'll remember this in the future....

 

[dblack]

And the state doesn't make a profit. The state has no motive to spend more money
simply to put more people in jail.

Not directly. But if they are 'connected' to people who do, agents of the state have ample incentive. For example:

Kids for cash scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We agree, the state has no profit motive.

Nope. We do not agree. They might not directly profit from private prisons, but agents of the state - judges, criminal prosecutors, legislators, anyone with the power to send more people to prison - often have a powerful incentive to collude with those who do profit. Do you know about what the judges in PA were doing to help out their buddies in the private 'detention centers'? Did you read the article I posted?

We're privatizing the things that should remain solely under government control (prisons, law enforcement, etc...) and socializing things the government has no business in (health care). Inside-out nuttiness.

 

[surada]

The stockholders in private prison stocks do make a profit.

And the state doesn't make a profit. The state has no motive to spend more money
simply to put more people in jail.

Any proof of your Hobby Lobby and Chik-Fil-A claims, or do you admit you were wrong?

Not the State.. Stockholders in private prison companies have to show a profit. Look them up and follow their stock prices.. although they took a dive during Trump's presidency..

 

[surada]

And the state doesn't make a profit. The state has no motive to spend more money
simply to put more people in jail.

Not directly. But if they are 'connected' to people who do, agents of the state have ample incentive. For example:

Kids for cash scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We agree, the state has no profit motive.

Nope. We do not agree. They might not directly profit from private prisons, but agents of the state - judges, criminal prosecutors, legislators, anyone with the power to send more people to prison - often have a powerful incentive to collude with those who do profit. Do you know about what the judges in PA were doing to help out their buddies in the private 'detention centers'? Did you read the article I posted?

We're privatizing the things that should remain solely under government control (prisons, law enforcement, etc...) and socializing things the government has no business in (health care). Inside-out nuttiness.

Universal healthcare is single payer/private delivery.. Only the VA system is socialized medicine.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

We never should have gone to for profit Prisons

Mother Jones did an expose' on for profit prisons. Americans should be ashamed.. The evangelical investors have made HUGE profits since 1984 because they filled their quotas.

Private prisons are shrouded in secrecy. I took a job as a guard to get inside—then things got crazy

This is the biggest investigation we’ve ever published.

www.motherjones.com

He quotes Mother Jones.

 

[dblack]

And the state doesn't make a profit. The state has no motive to spend more money
simply to put more people in jail.

Not directly. But if they are 'connected' to people who do, agents of the state have ample incentive. For example:

Kids for cash scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We agree, the state has no profit motive.

Nope. We do not agree. They might not directly profit from private prisons, but agents of the state - judges, criminal prosecutors, legislators, anyone with the power to send more people to prison - often have a powerful incentive to collude with those who do profit. Do you know about what the judges in PA were doing to help out their buddies in the private 'detention centers'? Did you read the article I posted?

We're privatizing the things that should remain solely under government control (prisons, law enforcement, etc...) and socializing things the government has no business in (health care). Inside-out nuttiness.

Universal healthcare is single payer/private delivery.. Only the VA system is socialized medicine.

Sure man, whatever. Not really interested in the excuses, or splitting hairs on your pet definition of "socialism". The point is, from a conservative view, government should be the sole operator of prisons, and has no business interfering in health care. But we've been tilting in the opposite direction on both counts.

 

[surada]

We never should have gone to for profit Prisons

Mother Jones did an expose' on for profit prisons. Americans should be ashamed.. The evangelical investors have made HUGE profits since 1984 because they filled their quotas.

Private prisons are shrouded in secrecy. I took a job as a guard to get inside—then things got crazy

This is the biggest investigation we’ve ever published.

www.motherjones.com

Mother Jones? Why not try citing Breitbart? I won't click on the lies of Mother Jones.

Its an excellent bit of research and NOTHING like Brietbart.

Scroll down and LOOK at private prison stocks.

Portfolio of Private Prison Stocks

 

[surada]

And the state doesn't make a profit. The state has no motive to spend more money
simply to put more people in jail.

Not directly. But if they are 'connected' to people who do, agents of the state have ample incentive. For example:

Kids for cash scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We agree, the state has no profit motive.

Nope. We do not agree. They might not directly profit from private prisons, but agents of the state - judges, criminal prosecutors, legislators, anyone with the power to send more people to prison - often have a powerful incentive to collude with those who do profit. Do you know about what the judges in PA were doing to help out their buddies in the private 'detention centers'? Did you read the article I posted?

We're privatizing the things that should remain solely under government control (prisons, law enforcement, etc...) and socializing things the government has no business in (health care). Inside-out nuttiness.

Universal healthcare is single payer/private delivery.. Only the VA system is socialized medicine.

Sure man, whatever. Not really interested in the excuses, or splitting hairs on your pet definition of "socialism". The point is, from a conservative view, government should be the sole operator of prisons, and has no business interfering in health care. But we've been tilting in the opposite direction on both counts.

We apparently aren't smart enough to have universal healthcare like Europe or Australia or Israel or Saudi Arabia.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

We never should have gone to for profit Prisons

So who's going to pay for the new prisons that will be needed?

Perhaps if we decriminalize things like weed possession and minor drug offenses; we won't be filling up prisons based on a profit motive instead of a public safety motive

When you say minor.
Are you talking about possessing a small amount or selling?

Small amount of possession, like someone with small amounts of meth or crack.......or maybe that soccer mom you want us to have empathy for because she is hooked on oxys.....oh wait, soccer moms don't get sent to prison.....

One of the main reason people go to prison is because they're repeat offenders.

Those who dont lead productive lives and are repeat offenders go to jail. A guy/girl with a job,family,home and are first time offenders rarely go to jail unless they're selling large quantities.

I'm all for giving first time offenders a break,those who continue to break the law deserve what they get.
Even soccer moms.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

We never should have gone to for profit Prisons

So who's going to pay for the new prisons that will be needed?

we don't need to build more prisons

What we need is to stop throwing people in jail for nonviolent crimes.

That depends on the crime.
Drug dealers need to go to jail. They destroy families and lives just the same as a guy who shoots someone in an armed robbery.