Biden leads Trump in Texas of all places

225,000 lives lost in America. Trump is more deadly than Al Queda.

Yep, about 10 times less than the scientists predicted. MAGA

What they predicted if nothing was done at all

But we have 5 times the deaths of other countries who took COVID seriously
when 40% of Covid deaths come from five Democrat governors you don’t vote for a Democrat lol
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Blacks die more than whites. Something like 3 to 1. And we have big cities. Much bigger than yours.

USA has 4% of the world population but 25% of covid cases. You want to push this down to the governors of the highest populated states?

Trump said it in 2013 in a tweet. Leadership, whatever happens you’re responsible. He was talking to obama not the governors.

Notice you did the same thing when rick Snyder gave flint residents lead poisoning. You blamed the black flint mayor.

Youre a joke.

oh, and now rick Snyder is voting for biden. Says trump lacks what it takes to be a leader. Now you won’t defend Snyder anymore.
If you lead the globe in tests and have a 6.6% positivity rate, guess what? You will also lead the globe in cases.....duuuhhhh!

We also lead the globe in deaths

Is that because we test more?
The virus has its metrics.....6.6% who test are positive, less than a half a percent are severe now, and the mortality rate is 2.5% from the early Killer Cuomo pacesetting rate of 8%. So yes, a handful of killer Dem states combined with the low results in the other 40 plus cause us to have the most deaths.
 
You run with that poll then. Because the polls do show that Biden is slipping in Texas. I can only surmise after
the last debate, he'll even slip more.
Oh was he that bad? Or is that just your narrative?

Doesnt matter we already voted.
and Trump supporters are voting early
Yea but many detroiters who would not normally take the time to stand in line have done absentee. Trump is most worried about this. He said this is his biggest threat to a second term
You're not being honest. Trump has no issues with absentee ballots whatsoever. A ballot INITIATED by the voter is no issue at all, not even with Trump.

With corona it makes sense to send everyone absentee ballots. If you are smart and practicing social distancing that is. What, do you want us to pack the polls on election day like you guys do at Trump rallies so we can die like Herman Cain?

'It's the same thing': Experts baffled by Trump's misleading distinction between 'absentee' and 'mail-in' ballots

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has railed against "mail-in voting" while defending "absentee voting," baffling experts who say those voting systems are essentially the same thing.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Friday morning, which included some of his previously debunked claims about voter fraud. There is no widespread fraud in US elections.

"Mail-In Ballot fraud found in many elections. People are just now seeing how bad, dishonest and slow it is. Election results could be delayed for months. No more big election night answers? 1% not even counted in 2016. Ridiculous! Just a formula for RIGGING an Election," Trump tweeted. "Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege. Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?"

Facts First: Trump is inventing a distinction where none exists, and also peddling baseless claims of rigged elections and fraudulent ballots. Different states use different terms, but "absentee ballots" are "mail-in ballots," and vice versa. Regardless, there are strict measures in place across the country to verify the authenticity of all ballots cast in the mail. These measures are very successful -- more than 99.9% of votes in US elections are legitimate.

Several reporters debunked Trump's claims within minutes of his Twitter post Friday morning. CNN has repeatedly fact-checked Trump's wildly untrue claims about voting-by-mail, allegations of fraudulent elections, and his far-fetched theories about foreign countries printing ballots.
An absentee ballot is initiated by the voter. A mail-in ballot is not, it's initiated by the registrar of the county using a voter database, that may, or may not be current.
It's not all that baffling, other than to CNN.
Doesnt matterS

Both ballots are identical and treated the same
Says you. A person may have moved, or is dead, and one still goes out to them. Don't give me the BS about checking the signature.
Because, we've seen that in Pa. the sig on file doesn't have to match up to the one on the ballot envelope.
So

They will check the signature just like they do on your mail in ballot

Many mail in ballots get rejected for signature

At least with an absentee ballot, I initiated it.
unnecessary step. I got mine and threw it away. I’ll go vote in person. But it was nice during a freakin pandemic for the governor to be proactive and come up with a solution.

We want everyone to vote don’t you?
As long as it's a legal vote. I've under the impression that the democrats want any vote, legal or not.
Mail in votes have been legal for decades
 
225,000 lives lost in America. Trump is more deadly than Al Queda.

Yep, about 10 times less than the scientists predicted. MAGA

Oh, just stop this nonsense. 10 times less than if we did exactly nothing and followed Rumps advice about letting it run it's course.

Daryl Hunt: Trump did nothing and everything he did was bad

Daryl Hunt: Stop it, the 2M was if we did nothing. So with 200K, Trump only gets credit for reducing deaths by 90%

Um ... yeah ...

Rump didn't do a whole hell of a lot. he bungled it from the very beginning., And now he is telling us it's rounding the bend. That light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming freight train. Any of the heavy lifting has been done by the Communities, Mayors and Governors. Notice, the one person that we trust is AWOL right now? And the spokesman that said it was out of control is now singing the Rump Message. What does one expect, it's 8 days left. They have to ride that horse all the way in, all of them together.

so don't give me your song and dance. The Majority ain't buyin' it. The Deaths will end up higher for the US than WWII if Rump is left in office and not controlled.
 
You run with that poll then. Because the polls do show that Biden is slipping in Texas. I can only surmise after
the last debate, he'll even slip more.
Oh was he that bad? Or is that just your narrative?

Doesnt matter we already voted.
and Trump supporters are voting early
Yea but many detroiters who would not normally take the time to stand in line have done absentee. Trump is most worried about this. He said this is his biggest threat to a second term
You're not being honest. Trump has no issues with absentee ballots whatsoever. A ballot INITIATED by the voter is no issue at all, not even with Trump.

With corona it makes sense to send everyone absentee ballots. If you are smart and practicing social distancing that is. What, do you want us to pack the polls on election day like you guys do at Trump rallies so we can die like Herman Cain?

'It's the same thing': Experts baffled by Trump's misleading distinction between 'absentee' and 'mail-in' ballots

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has railed against "mail-in voting" while defending "absentee voting," baffling experts who say those voting systems are essentially the same thing.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Friday morning, which included some of his previously debunked claims about voter fraud. There is no widespread fraud in US elections.

"Mail-In Ballot fraud found in many elections. People are just now seeing how bad, dishonest and slow it is. Election results could be delayed for months. No more big election night answers? 1% not even counted in 2016. Ridiculous! Just a formula for RIGGING an Election," Trump tweeted. "Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege. Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?"

Facts First: Trump is inventing a distinction where none exists, and also peddling baseless claims of rigged elections and fraudulent ballots. Different states use different terms, but "absentee ballots" are "mail-in ballots," and vice versa. Regardless, there are strict measures in place across the country to verify the authenticity of all ballots cast in the mail. These measures are very successful -- more than 99.9% of votes in US elections are legitimate.

Several reporters debunked Trump's claims within minutes of his Twitter post Friday morning. CNN has repeatedly fact-checked Trump's wildly untrue claims about voting-by-mail, allegations of fraudulent elections, and his far-fetched theories about foreign countries printing ballots.
An absentee ballot is initiated by the voter. A mail-in ballot is not, it's initiated by the registrar of the county using a voter database, that may, or may not be current.
It's not all that baffling, other than to CNN.
Doesnt matterS

Both ballots are identical and treated the same
Says you. A person may have moved, or is dead, and one still goes out to them. Don't give me the BS about checking the signature.
Because, we've seen that in Pa. the sig on file doesn't have to match up to the one on the ballot envelope.
So

They will check the signature just like they do on your mail in ballot

Many mail in ballots get rejected for signature

At least with an absentee ballot, I initiated it.
unnecessary step. I got mine and threw it away. I’ll go vote in person. But it was nice during a freakin pandemic for the governor to be proactive and come up with a solution.

We want everyone to vote don’t you?
As long as it's a legal vote. I've under the impression that the democrats want any vote, legal or not.
Mail in votes have been legal for decades

I can't wait to see what happens when Rump figures out he has 2 months to pack his bags. I remember that he's not into building the country as much as he is for "Getting Even". I predict that he's not going to make it to Jan 20th.
 
225,000 lives lost in America. Trump is more deadly than Al Queda.

Yep, about 10 times less than the scientists predicted. MAGA

Oh, just stop this nonsense. 10 times less than if we did exactly nothing and followed Rumps advice about letting it run it's course.

Daryl Hunt: Trump did nothing and everything he did was bad

Daryl Hunt: Stop it, the 2M was if we did nothing. So with 200K, Trump only gets credit for reducing deaths by 90%

Um ... yeah ...

Rump didn't do a whole hell of a lot. he bungled it from the very beginning., And now he is telling us it's rounding the bend. That light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming freight train. Any of the heavy lifting has been done by the Communities, Mayors and Governors. Notice, the one person that we trust is AWOL right now? And the spokesman that said it was out of control is now singing the Rump Message. What does one expect, it's 8 days left. They have to ride that horse all the way in, all of them together.

so don't give me your song and dance. The Majority ain't buyin' it. The Deaths will end up higher for the US than WWII if Rump is left in office and not controlled.

Blaming Trump for a virus is as retarded, hate filled and anti-American as it sounds. This is a national crisis and you're just playing the blame game.

But you say he bungled it, yet he saved 90% of the people. Explain how you're still finger pointing.

Not to mention that most of the deaths were blue States with Democrats governors where the GOVERNORS made the decisions, not the President.

You really are an ass being political with a virus
 
225,000 lives lost in America. Trump is more deadly than Al Queda.

Yep, about 10 times less than the scientists predicted. MAGA

Oh, just stop this nonsense. 10 times less than if we did exactly nothing and followed Rumps advice about letting it run it's course.

Daryl Hunt: Trump did nothing and everything he did was bad

Daryl Hunt: Stop it, the 2M was if we did nothing. So with 200K, Trump only gets credit for reducing deaths by 90%

Um ... yeah ...

Rump didn't do a whole hell of a lot. he bungled it from the very beginning., And now he is telling us it's rounding the bend. That light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming freight train. Any of the heavy lifting has been done by the Communities, Mayors and Governors. Notice, the one person that we trust is AWOL right now? And the spokesman that said it was out of control is now singing the Rump Message. What does one expect, it's 8 days left. They have to ride that horse all the way in, all of them together.

so don't give me your song and dance. The Majority ain't buyin' it. The Deaths will end up higher for the US than WWII if Rump is left in office and not controlled.

Blaming Trump for a virus is as retarded, hate filled and anti-American as it sounds. This is a national crisis and you're just playing the blame game.

But you say he bungled it, yet he saved 90% of the people. Explain how you're still finger pointing.

Not to mention that most of the deaths were blue States with Democrats governors where the GOVERNORS made the decisions, not the President.

You really are an ass being political with a virus

He didn't save anything. Had he jumped on it from the very beginning and followed Fauci's guidelines, there would be over 150,000 fewer deaths at least. And he is still causing deaths. Don't you listen to yourself? I know you listen to Rump. I listen to Fauci. Now stop with this and other lies about your Mass Murdering Fool.
 
225,000 lives lost in America. Trump is more deadly than Al Queda.

Yep, about 10 times less than the scientists predicted. MAGA

Oh, just stop this nonsense. 10 times less than if we did exactly nothing and followed Rumps advice about letting it run it's course.

Daryl Hunt: Trump did nothing and everything he did was bad

Daryl Hunt: Stop it, the 2M was if we did nothing. So with 200K, Trump only gets credit for reducing deaths by 90%

Um ... yeah ...

Rump didn't do a whole hell of a lot. he bungled it from the very beginning., And now he is telling us it's rounding the bend. That light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming freight train. Any of the heavy lifting has been done by the Communities, Mayors and Governors. Notice, the one person that we trust is AWOL right now? And the spokesman that said it was out of control is now singing the Rump Message. What does one expect, it's 8 days left. They have to ride that horse all the way in, all of them together.

so don't give me your song and dance. The Majority ain't buyin' it. The Deaths will end up higher for the US than WWII if Rump is left in office and not controlled.

Blaming Trump for a virus is as retarded, hate filled and anti-American as it sounds. This is a national crisis and you're just playing the blame game.

But you say he bungled it, yet he saved 90% of the people. Explain how you're still finger pointing.

Not to mention that most of the deaths were blue States with Democrats governors where the GOVERNORS made the decisions, not the President.

You really are an ass being political with a virus

He didn't save anything. Had he jumped on it from the very beginning and followed Fauci's guidelines, there would be over 150,000 fewer deaths at least. And he is still causing deaths. Don't you listen to yourself? I know you listen to Rump. I listen to Fauci. Now stop with this and other lies about your Mass Murdering Fool.
Actually, he was ahead of Fauci in the beginning, and way ahead of Biden in the beginning. But don't let the facts bitch slap you, Daryl
 
You run with that poll then. Because the polls do show that Biden is slipping in Texas. I can only surmise after
the last debate, he'll even slip more.
Oh was he that bad? Or is that just your narrative?

Doesnt matter we already voted.
and Trump supporters are voting early
Yea but many detroiters who would not normally take the time to stand in line have done absentee. Trump is most worried about this. He said this is his biggest threat to a second term
You're not being honest. Trump has no issues with absentee ballots whatsoever. A ballot INITIATED by the voter is no issue at all, not even with Trump.

With corona it makes sense to send everyone absentee ballots. If you are smart and practicing social distancing that is. What, do you want us to pack the polls on election day like you guys do at Trump rallies so we can die like Herman Cain?

'It's the same thing': Experts baffled by Trump's misleading distinction between 'absentee' and 'mail-in' ballots

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has railed against "mail-in voting" while defending "absentee voting," baffling experts who say those voting systems are essentially the same thing.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Friday morning, which included some of his previously debunked claims about voter fraud. There is no widespread fraud in US elections.

"Mail-In Ballot fraud found in many elections. People are just now seeing how bad, dishonest and slow it is. Election results could be delayed for months. No more big election night answers? 1% not even counted in 2016. Ridiculous! Just a formula for RIGGING an Election," Trump tweeted. "Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege. Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?"

Facts First: Trump is inventing a distinction where none exists, and also peddling baseless claims of rigged elections and fraudulent ballots. Different states use different terms, but "absentee ballots" are "mail-in ballots," and vice versa. Regardless, there are strict measures in place across the country to verify the authenticity of all ballots cast in the mail. These measures are very successful -- more than 99.9% of votes in US elections are legitimate.

Several reporters debunked Trump's claims within minutes of his Twitter post Friday morning. CNN has repeatedly fact-checked Trump's wildly untrue claims about voting-by-mail, allegations of fraudulent elections, and his far-fetched theories about foreign countries printing ballots.
An absentee ballot is initiated by the voter. A mail-in ballot is not, it's initiated by the registrar of the county using a voter database, that may, or may not be current.
It's not all that baffling, other than to CNN.
Doesnt matterS

Both ballots are identical and treated the same
Says you. A person may have moved, or is dead, and one still goes out to them. Don't give me the BS about checking the signature.
Because, we've seen that in Pa. the sig on file doesn't have to match up to the one on the ballot envelope.
So

They will check the signature just like they do on your mail in ballot

Many mail in ballots get rejected for signature

At least with an absentee ballot, I initiated it.
unnecessary step. I got mine and threw it away. I’ll go vote in person. But it was nice during a freakin pandemic for the governor to be proactive and come up with a solution.

We want everyone to vote don’t you?
As long as it's a legal vote. I've under the impression that the democrats want any vote, legal or not.
Mail in votes have been legal for decades

I can't wait to see what happens when Rump figures out he has 2 months to pack his bags. I remember that he's not into building the country as much as he is for "Getting Even". I predict that he's not going to make it to Jan 20th.
I suspect we will see him tear down and destroy as much as possible and cover his tracks with pardons for everyone who has dirt on him
 
225,000 lives lost in America. Trump is more deadly than Al Queda.

Yep, about 10 times less than the scientists predicted. MAGA

Oh, just stop this nonsense. 10 times less than if we did exactly nothing and followed Rumps advice about letting it run it's course.

Daryl Hunt: Trump did nothing and everything he did was bad

Daryl Hunt: Stop it, the 2M was if we did nothing. So with 200K, Trump only gets credit for reducing deaths by 90%

Um ... yeah ...

Rump didn't do a whole hell of a lot. he bungled it from the very beginning., And now he is telling us it's rounding the bend. That light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming freight train. Any of the heavy lifting has been done by the Communities, Mayors and Governors. Notice, the one person that we trust is AWOL right now? And the spokesman that said it was out of control is now singing the Rump Message. What does one expect, it's 8 days left. They have to ride that horse all the way in, all of them together.

so don't give me your song and dance. The Majority ain't buyin' it. The Deaths will end up higher for the US than WWII if Rump is left in office and not controlled.

Blaming Trump for a virus is as retarded, hate filled and anti-American as it sounds. This is a national crisis and you're just playing the blame game.

But you say he bungled it, yet he saved 90% of the people. Explain how you're still finger pointing.

Not to mention that most of the deaths were blue States with Democrats governors where the GOVERNORS made the decisions, not the President.

You really are an ass being political with a virus

He didn't save anything. Had he jumped on it from the very beginning and followed Fauci's guidelines, there would be over 150,000 fewer deaths at least. And he is still causing deaths. Don't you listen to yourself? I know you listen to Rump. I listen to Fauci. Now stop with this and other lies about your Mass Murdering Fool.

You didn't address anything in my post. You just made up another number.

Since most of the deaths were in blue States where the Democrats ran the coronavirus response, how could Trump have saved 75% more people?

You already credited Trump with saving 90% of the people. Now you're just arguing he is somehow inept because he could have saved 97.5%. Even though he wasn't in charge where the deaths occurred. Talk about the blame game. It's sick and hateful.

You're proving my point what an America hating dick you are finger pointing through a national crisis
 
unnecessary step. I got mine and threw it away. I’ll go vote in person. But it was nice during a freakin pandemic for the governor to be proactive and come up with a solution.

We want everyone to vote don’t you?
As long as it's a legal vote. I've under the impression that the democrats want any vote, legal or not.
Mail in votes have been legal for decades

I can't wait to see what happens when Rump figures out he has 2 months to pack his bags. I remember that he's not into building the country as much as he is for "Getting Even". I predict that he's not going to make it to Jan 20th.
I suspect we will see him tear down and destroy as much as possible and cover his tracks with pardons for everyone who has dirt on him

You can "suspect" anything you want, it doesn't mean shit and you've already proven yourself to be a partisan extremist, so even more so.
 
225,000 lives lost in America. Trump is more deadly than Al Queda.

Yep, about 10 times less than the scientists predicted. MAGA

Oh, just stop this nonsense. 10 times less than if we did exactly nothing and followed Rumps advice about letting it run it's course.

Daryl Hunt: Trump did nothing and everything he did was bad

Daryl Hunt: Stop it, the 2M was if we did nothing. So with 200K, Trump only gets credit for reducing deaths by 90%

Um ... yeah ...

Rump didn't do a whole hell of a lot. he bungled it from the very beginning., And now he is telling us it's rounding the bend. That light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming freight train. Any of the heavy lifting has been done by the Communities, Mayors and Governors. Notice, the one person that we trust is AWOL right now? And the spokesman that said it was out of control is now singing the Rump Message. What does one expect, it's 8 days left. They have to ride that horse all the way in, all of them together.

so don't give me your song and dance. The Majority ain't buyin' it. The Deaths will end up higher for the US than WWII if Rump is left in office and not controlled.

Blaming Trump for a virus is as retarded, hate filled and anti-American as it sounds. This is a national crisis and you're just playing the blame game.

But you say he bungled it, yet he saved 90% of the people. Explain how you're still finger pointing.

Not to mention that most of the deaths were blue States with Democrats governors where the GOVERNORS made the decisions, not the President.

You really are an ass being political with a virus

He didn't save anything. Had he jumped on it from the very beginning and followed Fauci's guidelines, there would be over 150,000 fewer deaths at least. And he is still causing deaths. Don't you listen to yourself? I know you listen to Rump. I listen to Fauci. Now stop with this and other lies about your Mass Murdering Fool.
Actually, he was ahead of Fauci in the beginning, and way ahead of Biden in the beginning. But don't let the facts bitch slap you, Daryl

Way ahead? He did a token effort only. And you Cult45ers think it was all that could have been done. When there were only 15 cases, he could have frozen all travel from outside the US instead of the few that he did do. And that you give him credit? Hell, he waved the Covid in with open arms knowingly. He's a Mass Murderer.
 
225,000 lives lost in America. Trump is more deadly than Al Queda.

Yep, about 10 times less than the scientists predicted. MAGA

Oh, just stop this nonsense. 10 times less than if we did exactly nothing and followed Rumps advice about letting it run it's course.

Daryl Hunt: Trump did nothing and everything he did was bad

Daryl Hunt: Stop it, the 2M was if we did nothing. So with 200K, Trump only gets credit for reducing deaths by 90%

Um ... yeah ...

Rump didn't do a whole hell of a lot. he bungled it from the very beginning., And now he is telling us it's rounding the bend. That light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming freight train. Any of the heavy lifting has been done by the Communities, Mayors and Governors. Notice, the one person that we trust is AWOL right now? And the spokesman that said it was out of control is now singing the Rump Message. What does one expect, it's 8 days left. They have to ride that horse all the way in, all of them together.

so don't give me your song and dance. The Majority ain't buyin' it. The Deaths will end up higher for the US than WWII if Rump is left in office and not controlled.

Blaming Trump for a virus is as retarded, hate filled and anti-American as it sounds. This is a national crisis and you're just playing the blame game.

But you say he bungled it, yet he saved 90% of the people. Explain how you're still finger pointing.

Not to mention that most of the deaths were blue States with Democrats governors where the GOVERNORS made the decisions, not the President.

You really are an ass being political with a virus

He didn't save anything. Had he jumped on it from the very beginning and followed Fauci's guidelines, there would be over 150,000 fewer deaths at least. And he is still causing deaths. Don't you listen to yourself? I know you listen to Rump. I listen to Fauci. Now stop with this and other lies about your Mass Murdering Fool.
Actually, he was ahead of Fauci in the beginning, and way ahead of Biden in the beginning. But don't let the facts bitch slap you, Daryl

Way ahead? He did a token effort only. And you Cult45ers think it was all that could have been done. When there were only 15 cases, he could have frozen all travel from outside the US instead of the few that he did do. And that you give him credit? Hell, he waved the Covid in with open arms knowingly. He's a Mass Murderer.

You just gave Trump credit for saving 90% of the people even though most of the deaths were in blue States with Democrat governors in control. That sounds like a pretty damned great job and that's your story and you hate the guy.

So what did the Democrat governors do wrong that you think they could have saved 75% of the people they killed?
 
Doesn’t bode well for Trump. Losing Texas would mean automatic defeat for Trump.


The poll showed Biden with the support of 48 percent of likely voters, compared with 45 percent for Trump. The results represent a shift from the same poll in September, when Trump led by 2 percentage points. One difference from September is that Biden has expanded his lead among Hispanic voters from 30 percentage points to 48.

Yup, and he's statistically TIED in Georgia of all places! :)

RCP Average10/8 - 10/23----47.246.8Trump +0.4
 
You run with that poll then. Because the polls do show that Biden is slipping in Texas. I can only surmise after
the last debate, he'll even slip more.
Oh was he that bad? Or is that just your narrative?

Doesnt matter we already voted.
and Trump supporters are voting early
Yea but many detroiters who would not normally take the time to stand in line have done absentee. Trump is most worried about this. He said this is his biggest threat to a second term
You're not being honest. Trump has no issues with absentee ballots whatsoever. A ballot INITIATED by the voter is no issue at all, not even with Trump.

With corona it makes sense to send everyone absentee ballots. If you are smart and practicing social distancing that is. What, do you want us to pack the polls on election day like you guys do at Trump rallies so we can die like Herman Cain?

'It's the same thing': Experts baffled by Trump's misleading distinction between 'absentee' and 'mail-in' ballots

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has railed against "mail-in voting" while defending "absentee voting," baffling experts who say those voting systems are essentially the same thing.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Friday morning, which included some of his previously debunked claims about voter fraud. There is no widespread fraud in US elections.

"Mail-In Ballot fraud found in many elections. People are just now seeing how bad, dishonest and slow it is. Election results could be delayed for months. No more big election night answers? 1% not even counted in 2016. Ridiculous! Just a formula for RIGGING an Election," Trump tweeted. "Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege. Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?"

Facts First: Trump is inventing a distinction where none exists, and also peddling baseless claims of rigged elections and fraudulent ballots. Different states use different terms, but "absentee ballots" are "mail-in ballots," and vice versa. Regardless, there are strict measures in place across the country to verify the authenticity of all ballots cast in the mail. These measures are very successful -- more than 99.9% of votes in US elections are legitimate.

Several reporters debunked Trump's claims within minutes of his Twitter post Friday morning. CNN has repeatedly fact-checked Trump's wildly untrue claims about voting-by-mail, allegations of fraudulent elections, and his far-fetched theories about foreign countries printing ballots.
An absentee ballot is initiated by the voter. A mail-in ballot is not, it's initiated by the registrar of the county using a voter database, that may, or may not be current.
It's not all that baffling, other than to CNN.
Doesnt matterS

Both ballots are identical and treated the same
Says you. A person may have moved, or is dead, and one still goes out to them. Don't give me the BS about checking the signature.
Because, we've seen that in Pa. the sig on file doesn't have to match up to the one on the ballot envelope.
So

They will check the signature just like they do on your mail in ballot

Many mail in ballots get rejected for signature

At least with an absentee ballot, I initiated it.
unnecessary step. I got mine and threw it away. I’ll go vote in person. But it was nice during a freakin pandemic for the governor to be proactive and come up with a solution.

We want everyone to vote don’t you?
As long as it's a legal vote. I've under the impression that the democrats want any vote, legal or not.
Mail in votes have been legal for decades

I can't wait to see what happens when Rump figures out he has 2 months to pack his bags. I remember that he's not into building the country as much as he is for "Getting Even". I predict that he's not going to make it to Jan 20th.
I suspect we will see him tear down and destroy as much as possible and cover his tracks with pardons for everyone who has dirt on him

The only one he can't pardon is himself. I wonder if they are going to need a light truck for Rudy's pardon. But I predict we will see "Impeachment, part two" in either late November or early December. he gets to be the only sitting President to be thrown out just before he musters out. I don't see any way around this other than his Cutlists locking him the Bunker and feeding him Big Macs through a space under the door.
 
You run with that poll then. Because the polls do show that Biden is slipping in Texas. I can only surmise after
the last debate, he'll even slip more.
Oh was he that bad? Or is that just your narrative?

Doesnt matter we already voted.
and Trump supporters are voting early
Yea but many detroiters who would not normally take the time to stand in line have done absentee. Trump is most worried about this. He said this is his biggest threat to a second term
You're not being honest. Trump has no issues with absentee ballots whatsoever. A ballot INITIATED by the voter is no issue at all, not even with Trump.

With corona it makes sense to send everyone absentee ballots. If you are smart and practicing social distancing that is. What, do you want us to pack the polls on election day like you guys do at Trump rallies so we can die like Herman Cain?

'It's the same thing': Experts baffled by Trump's misleading distinction between 'absentee' and 'mail-in' ballots

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has railed against "mail-in voting" while defending "absentee voting," baffling experts who say those voting systems are essentially the same thing.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Friday morning, which included some of his previously debunked claims about voter fraud. There is no widespread fraud in US elections.

"Mail-In Ballot fraud found in many elections. People are just now seeing how bad, dishonest and slow it is. Election results could be delayed for months. No more big election night answers? 1% not even counted in 2016. Ridiculous! Just a formula for RIGGING an Election," Trump tweeted. "Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege. Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?"

Facts First: Trump is inventing a distinction where none exists, and also peddling baseless claims of rigged elections and fraudulent ballots. Different states use different terms, but "absentee ballots" are "mail-in ballots," and vice versa. Regardless, there are strict measures in place across the country to verify the authenticity of all ballots cast in the mail. These measures are very successful -- more than 99.9% of votes in US elections are legitimate.

Several reporters debunked Trump's claims within minutes of his Twitter post Friday morning. CNN has repeatedly fact-checked Trump's wildly untrue claims about voting-by-mail, allegations of fraudulent elections, and his far-fetched theories about foreign countries printing ballots.
An absentee ballot is initiated by the voter. A mail-in ballot is not, it's initiated by the registrar of the county using a voter database, that may, or may not be current.
It's not all that baffling, other than to CNN.
Doesnt matterS

Both ballots are identical and treated the same
Says you. A person may have moved, or is dead, and one still goes out to them. Don't give me the BS about checking the signature.
Because, we've seen that in Pa. the sig on file doesn't have to match up to the one on the ballot envelope.
So

They will check the signature just like they do on your mail in ballot

Many mail in ballots get rejected for signature

At least with an absentee ballot, I initiated it.
unnecessary step. I got mine and threw it away. I’ll go vote in person. But it was nice during a freakin pandemic for the governor to be proactive and come up with a solution.

We want everyone to vote don’t you?
As long as it's a legal vote. I've under the impression that the democrats want any vote, legal or not.
Mail in votes have been legal for decades

I can't wait to see what happens when Rump figures out he has 2 months to pack his bags. I remember that he's not into building the country as much as he is for "Getting Even". I predict that he's not going to make it to Jan 20th.
I suspect we will see him tear down and destroy as much as possible and cover his tracks with pardons for everyone who has dirt on him

The only one he can't pardon is himself. I wonder if they are going to need a light truck for Rudy's pardon. But I predict we will see "Impeachment, part two" in either late November or early December. he gets to be the only sitting President to be thrown out just before he musters out. I don't see any way around this other than his Cutlists locking him the Bunker and feeding him Big Macs through a space under the door.

I wonder if the D controlled House AND Senate can impeach him again even if he loses. That'd be fun. :cool-45:
 
225,000 lives lost in America. Trump is more deadly than Al Queda.

Yep, about 10 times less than the scientists predicted. MAGA

Oh, just stop this nonsense. 10 times less than if we did exactly nothing and followed Rumps advice about letting it run it's course.

Daryl Hunt: Trump did nothing and everything he did was bad

Daryl Hunt: Stop it, the 2M was if we did nothing. So with 200K, Trump only gets credit for reducing deaths by 90%

Um ... yeah ...

Rump didn't do a whole hell of a lot. he bungled it from the very beginning., And now he is telling us it's rounding the bend. That light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming freight train. Any of the heavy lifting has been done by the Communities, Mayors and Governors. Notice, the one person that we trust is AWOL right now? And the spokesman that said it was out of control is now singing the Rump Message. What does one expect, it's 8 days left. They have to ride that horse all the way in, all of them together.

so don't give me your song and dance. The Majority ain't buyin' it. The Deaths will end up higher for the US than WWII if Rump is left in office and not controlled.

Blaming Trump for a virus is as retarded, hate filled and anti-American as it sounds. This is a national crisis and you're just playing the blame game.

But you say he bungled it, yet he saved 90% of the people. Explain how you're still finger pointing.

Not to mention that most of the deaths were blue States with Democrats governors where the GOVERNORS made the decisions, not the President.

You really are an ass being political with a virus

He didn't save anything. Had he jumped on it from the very beginning and followed Fauci's guidelines, there would be over 150,000 fewer deaths at least. And he is still causing deaths. Don't you listen to yourself? I know you listen to Rump. I listen to Fauci. Now stop with this and other lies about your Mass Murdering Fool.

You didn't address anything in my post. You just made up another number.

Since most of the deaths were in blue States where the Democrats ran the coronavirus response, how could Trump have saved 75% more people?

You already credited Trump with saving 90% of the people. Now you're just arguing he is somehow inept because he could have saved 97.5%. Even though he wasn't in charge where the deaths occurred. Talk about the blame game. It's sick and hateful.

You're proving my point what an America hating dick you are finger pointing through a national crisis

I don't credit Rump for that 90%. You do. I credit him for the over 220,000 deaths where at lest 150,000 of them could have been avoided.

The reason most of the deaths were in Blue Cities is that MOST Cities are Blue. And the entry points were in those Blue Cities allowed by Rump. Rump could have frozen all travel in and out of the US from the very beginning instead of his token effort. Rump also could have quarintined and traced those 15 cases that were already here. Instead, it went form 15 to hundreds of thousands in a matter of days. The only one with the power to do that was the President which we didn't have one and still don't.
 
You run with that poll then. Because the polls do show that Biden is slipping in Texas. I can only surmise after
the last debate, he'll even slip more.
Oh was he that bad? Or is that just your narrative?

Doesnt matter we already voted.
and Trump supporters are voting early
Yea but many detroiters who would not normally take the time to stand in line have done absentee. Trump is most worried about this. He said this is his biggest threat to a second term
You're not being honest. Trump has no issues with absentee ballots whatsoever. A ballot INITIATED by the voter is no issue at all, not even with Trump.

With corona it makes sense to send everyone absentee ballots. If you are smart and practicing social distancing that is. What, do you want us to pack the polls on election day like you guys do at Trump rallies so we can die like Herman Cain?

'It's the same thing': Experts baffled by Trump's misleading distinction between 'absentee' and 'mail-in' ballots

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has railed against "mail-in voting" while defending "absentee voting," baffling experts who say those voting systems are essentially the same thing.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Friday morning, which included some of his previously debunked claims about voter fraud. There is no widespread fraud in US elections.

"Mail-In Ballot fraud found in many elections. People are just now seeing how bad, dishonest and slow it is. Election results could be delayed for months. No more big election night answers? 1% not even counted in 2016. Ridiculous! Just a formula for RIGGING an Election," Trump tweeted. "Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege. Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?"

Facts First: Trump is inventing a distinction where none exists, and also peddling baseless claims of rigged elections and fraudulent ballots. Different states use different terms, but "absentee ballots" are "mail-in ballots," and vice versa. Regardless, there are strict measures in place across the country to verify the authenticity of all ballots cast in the mail. These measures are very successful -- more than 99.9% of votes in US elections are legitimate.

Several reporters debunked Trump's claims within minutes of his Twitter post Friday morning. CNN has repeatedly fact-checked Trump's wildly untrue claims about voting-by-mail, allegations of fraudulent elections, and his far-fetched theories about foreign countries printing ballots.
An absentee ballot is initiated by the voter. A mail-in ballot is not, it's initiated by the registrar of the county using a voter database, that may, or may not be current.
It's not all that baffling, other than to CNN.
Doesnt matterS

Both ballots are identical and treated the same
Says you. A person may have moved, or is dead, and one still goes out to them. Don't give me the BS about checking the signature.
Because, we've seen that in Pa. the sig on file doesn't have to match up to the one on the ballot envelope.
So

They will check the signature just like they do on your mail in ballot

Many mail in ballots get rejected for signature

At least with an absentee ballot, I initiated it.
unnecessary step. I got mine and threw it away. I’ll go vote in person. But it was nice during a freakin pandemic for the governor to be proactive and come up with a solution.

We want everyone to vote don’t you?
As long as it's a legal vote. I've under the impression that the democrats want any vote, legal or not.
Mail in votes have been legal for decades

I can't wait to see what happens when Rump figures out he has 2 months to pack his bags. I remember that he's not into building the country as much as he is for "Getting Even". I predict that he's not going to make it to Jan 20th.
I suspect we will see him tear down and destroy as much as possible and cover his tracks with pardons for everyone who has dirt on him

The only one he can't pardon is himself. I wonder if they are going to need a light truck for Rudy's pardon. But I predict we will see "Impeachment, part two" in either late November or early December. he gets to be the only sitting President to be thrown out just before he musters out. I don't see any way around this other than his Cutlists locking him the Bunker and feeding him Big Macs through a space under the door.

Democrats let Nixon and Bush slide after they left office.
Ex Presidents were given a blanket pardon for past sins.

I doubt Trump will receive the same courtesy
 
You run with that poll then. Because the polls do show that Biden is slipping in Texas. I can only surmise after
the last debate, he'll even slip more.
Oh was he that bad? Or is that just your narrative?

Doesnt matter we already voted.
and Trump supporters are voting early
Yea but many detroiters who would not normally take the time to stand in line have done absentee. Trump is most worried about this. He said this is his biggest threat to a second term
You're not being honest. Trump has no issues with absentee ballots whatsoever. A ballot INITIATED by the voter is no issue at all, not even with Trump.

With corona it makes sense to send everyone absentee ballots. If you are smart and practicing social distancing that is. What, do you want us to pack the polls on election day like you guys do at Trump rallies so we can die like Herman Cain?

'It's the same thing': Experts baffled by Trump's misleading distinction between 'absentee' and 'mail-in' ballots

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has railed against "mail-in voting" while defending "absentee voting," baffling experts who say those voting systems are essentially the same thing.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Friday morning, which included some of his previously debunked claims about voter fraud. There is no widespread fraud in US elections.

"Mail-In Ballot fraud found in many elections. People are just now seeing how bad, dishonest and slow it is. Election results could be delayed for months. No more big election night answers? 1% not even counted in 2016. Ridiculous! Just a formula for RIGGING an Election," Trump tweeted. "Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege. Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?"

Facts First: Trump is inventing a distinction where none exists, and also peddling baseless claims of rigged elections and fraudulent ballots. Different states use different terms, but "absentee ballots" are "mail-in ballots," and vice versa. Regardless, there are strict measures in place across the country to verify the authenticity of all ballots cast in the mail. These measures are very successful -- more than 99.9% of votes in US elections are legitimate.

Several reporters debunked Trump's claims within minutes of his Twitter post Friday morning. CNN has repeatedly fact-checked Trump's wildly untrue claims about voting-by-mail, allegations of fraudulent elections, and his far-fetched theories about foreign countries printing ballots.
An absentee ballot is initiated by the voter. A mail-in ballot is not, it's initiated by the registrar of the county using a voter database, that may, or may not be current.
It's not all that baffling, other than to CNN.
Doesnt matterS

Both ballots are identical and treated the same
Says you. A person may have moved, or is dead, and one still goes out to them. Don't give me the BS about checking the signature.
Because, we've seen that in Pa. the sig on file doesn't have to match up to the one on the ballot envelope.
So

They will check the signature just like they do on your mail in ballot

Many mail in ballots get rejected for signature

At least with an absentee ballot, I initiated it.
unnecessary step. I got mine and threw it away. I’ll go vote in person. But it was nice during a freakin pandemic for the governor to be proactive and come up with a solution.

We want everyone to vote don’t you?
As long as it's a legal vote. I've under the impression that the democrats want any vote, legal or not.
Mail in votes have been legal for decades

I can't wait to see what happens when Rump figures out he has 2 months to pack his bags. I remember that he's not into building the country as much as he is for "Getting Even". I predict that he's not going to make it to Jan 20th.
I suspect we will see him tear down and destroy as much as possible and cover his tracks with pardons for everyone who has dirt on him

The only one he can't pardon is himself. I wonder if they are going to need a light truck for Rudy's pardon. But I predict we will see "Impeachment, part two" in either late November or early December. he gets to be the only sitting President to be thrown out just before he musters out. I don't see any way around this other than his Cutlists locking him the Bunker and feeding him Big Macs through a space under the door.

I wonder if the D controlled House AND Senate can impeach him again even if he loses. That'd be fun. :cool-45:

Yes there can. There is no double jepoardy in impeachment because there never was a trial. The trial happens AFTER the Senate removes him from office.
 
You run with that poll then. Because the polls do show that Biden is slipping in Texas. I can only surmise after
the last debate, he'll even slip more.
Oh was he that bad? Or is that just your narrative?

Doesnt matter we already voted.
and Trump supporters are voting early
Yea but many detroiters who would not normally take the time to stand in line have done absentee. Trump is most worried about this. He said this is his biggest threat to a second term
You're not being honest. Trump has no issues with absentee ballots whatsoever. A ballot INITIATED by the voter is no issue at all, not even with Trump.

With corona it makes sense to send everyone absentee ballots. If you are smart and practicing social distancing that is. What, do you want us to pack the polls on election day like you guys do at Trump rallies so we can die like Herman Cain?

'It's the same thing': Experts baffled by Trump's misleading distinction between 'absentee' and 'mail-in' ballots

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has railed against "mail-in voting" while defending "absentee voting," baffling experts who say those voting systems are essentially the same thing.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Friday morning, which included some of his previously debunked claims about voter fraud. There is no widespread fraud in US elections.

"Mail-In Ballot fraud found in many elections. People are just now seeing how bad, dishonest and slow it is. Election results could be delayed for months. No more big election night answers? 1% not even counted in 2016. Ridiculous! Just a formula for RIGGING an Election," Trump tweeted. "Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege. Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?"

Facts First: Trump is inventing a distinction where none exists, and also peddling baseless claims of rigged elections and fraudulent ballots. Different states use different terms, but "absentee ballots" are "mail-in ballots," and vice versa. Regardless, there are strict measures in place across the country to verify the authenticity of all ballots cast in the mail. These measures are very successful -- more than 99.9% of votes in US elections are legitimate.

Several reporters debunked Trump's claims within minutes of his Twitter post Friday morning. CNN has repeatedly fact-checked Trump's wildly untrue claims about voting-by-mail, allegations of fraudulent elections, and his far-fetched theories about foreign countries printing ballots.
An absentee ballot is initiated by the voter. A mail-in ballot is not, it's initiated by the registrar of the county using a voter database, that may, or may not be current.
It's not all that baffling, other than to CNN.
Doesnt matterS

Both ballots are identical and treated the same
Says you. A person may have moved, or is dead, and one still goes out to them. Don't give me the BS about checking the signature.
Because, we've seen that in Pa. the sig on file doesn't have to match up to the one on the ballot envelope.
So

They will check the signature just like they do on your mail in ballot

Many mail in ballots get rejected for signature

At least with an absentee ballot, I initiated it.
unnecessary step. I got mine and threw it away. I’ll go vote in person. But it was nice during a freakin pandemic for the governor to be proactive and come up with a solution.

We want everyone to vote don’t you?
As long as it's a legal vote. I've under the impression that the democrats want any vote, legal or not.
Mail in votes have been legal for decades

I can't wait to see what happens when Rump figures out he has 2 months to pack his bags. I remember that he's not into building the country as much as he is for "Getting Even". I predict that he's not going to make it to Jan 20th.
I suspect we will see him tear down and destroy as much as possible and cover his tracks with pardons for everyone who has dirt on him

The only one he can't pardon is himself. I wonder if they are going to need a light truck for Rudy's pardon. But I predict we will see "Impeachment, part two" in either late November or early December. he gets to be the only sitting President to be thrown out just before he musters out. I don't see any way around this other than his Cutlists locking him the Bunker and feeding him Big Macs through a space under the door.

I wonder if the D controlled House AND Senate can impeach him again even if he loses. That'd be fun. :cool-45:

There is no impeachment necessary.

The Justice Department can prosecute him without any executive exemptions
 
You run with that poll then. Because the polls do show that Biden is slipping in Texas. I can only surmise after
the last debate, he'll even slip more.
Oh was he that bad? Or is that just your narrative?

Doesnt matter we already voted.
and Trump supporters are voting early
Yea but many detroiters who would not normally take the time to stand in line have done absentee. Trump is most worried about this. He said this is his biggest threat to a second term
You're not being honest. Trump has no issues with absentee ballots whatsoever. A ballot INITIATED by the voter is no issue at all, not even with Trump.

With corona it makes sense to send everyone absentee ballots. If you are smart and practicing social distancing that is. What, do you want us to pack the polls on election day like you guys do at Trump rallies so we can die like Herman Cain?

'It's the same thing': Experts baffled by Trump's misleading distinction between 'absentee' and 'mail-in' ballots

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has railed against "mail-in voting" while defending "absentee voting," baffling experts who say those voting systems are essentially the same thing.
Trump made the claims in a series of tweets Friday morning, which included some of his previously debunked claims about voter fraud. There is no widespread fraud in US elections.

"Mail-In Ballot fraud found in many elections. People are just now seeing how bad, dishonest and slow it is. Election results could be delayed for months. No more big election night answers? 1% not even counted in 2016. Ridiculous! Just a formula for RIGGING an Election," Trump tweeted. "Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege. Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?"

Facts First: Trump is inventing a distinction where none exists, and also peddling baseless claims of rigged elections and fraudulent ballots. Different states use different terms, but "absentee ballots" are "mail-in ballots," and vice versa. Regardless, there are strict measures in place across the country to verify the authenticity of all ballots cast in the mail. These measures are very successful -- more than 99.9% of votes in US elections are legitimate.

Several reporters debunked Trump's claims within minutes of his Twitter post Friday morning. CNN has repeatedly fact-checked Trump's wildly untrue claims about voting-by-mail, allegations of fraudulent elections, and his far-fetched theories about foreign countries printing ballots.
An absentee ballot is initiated by the voter. A mail-in ballot is not, it's initiated by the registrar of the county using a voter database, that may, or may not be current.
It's not all that baffling, other than to CNN.
Doesnt matterS

Both ballots are identical and treated the same
Says you. A person may have moved, or is dead, and one still goes out to them. Don't give me the BS about checking the signature.
Because, we've seen that in Pa. the sig on file doesn't have to match up to the one on the ballot envelope.
So

They will check the signature just like they do on your mail in ballot

Many mail in ballots get rejected for signature

At least with an absentee ballot, I initiated it.
unnecessary step. I got mine and threw it away. I’ll go vote in person. But it was nice during a freakin pandemic for the governor to be proactive and come up with a solution.

We want everyone to vote don’t you?
As long as it's a legal vote. I've under the impression that the democrats want any vote, legal or not.
Mail in votes have been legal for decades

I can't wait to see what happens when Rump figures out he has 2 months to pack his bags. I remember that he's not into building the country as much as he is for "Getting Even". I predict that he's not going to make it to Jan 20th.
I suspect we will see him tear down and destroy as much as possible and cover his tracks with pardons for everyone who has dirt on him

The only one he can't pardon is himself. I wonder if they are going to need a light truck for Rudy's pardon. But I predict we will see "Impeachment, part two" in either late November or early December. he gets to be the only sitting President to be thrown out just before he musters out. I don't see any way around this other than his Cutlists locking him the Bunker and feeding him Big Macs through a space under the door.

Democrats let Nixon and Bush slide after they left office.
Ex Presidents were given a blanket pardon for past sins.

I doubt Trump will receive the same courtesy

Nixon didn't get impeached. He may have or may not have. But just in case, Ford gave him the same thing as if he were convicted in a court of law. The same thing happened with impeached Clinton. Neither one got off scott free.
 

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