Biden just said he's planning to build trains that travel as fast as commercial jets

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, waiting for baggage carousels, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV. Even a slow train would beat the plane there.

Trains, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

You’re trying to explain this to people whose heads are in the fifties. And forties, for that matter.


Hey now, not nice to talk about IQ scores.
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.


So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

Are YOU saying that a train will NEVER be able to travel as fast as current commercial aircraft? Let's hear you say that bit of stupid.


Nope. Top speeds of a train are 267mph. Commercial airliner is around 570mph. Aint gonna happen.


Top speeds [sic] of which train? I've already posted that the TGV has done over 350. That's not even counting the hyperloop others have posted about which would double that. That hyperloop doesn't exist yet, but the alleged quote, again DOES say "imagine a world where", it does not say "you can do this right now".

Besides which, as I pointed out at the beginning of all this, plane travel involves a fuck of a lot more than just the flying, which adds hours to the trip.

I swear ta god summa y'all seem to have never been on a plane trip at all. Which is fine, but don't sit here and pontificate on something y'all don't understand.


570>350. Thats basic math.


Long trips into and out of airports, endless TSA lines, endless waiting, including waiting for baggage carousels, if it's not lost altogether, is all part of the trip. That's basic reality.


I don't disagree with those aspects of air travel.


We all agree those are part of it, those of us who have flown anywhere. And they're a pain in the ass, which is why I drive whenever I can. I tell the company to just pay me what they would have spent on the flight, and I pocket the difference.

Some of us are so enslaved to the "because we can" syndrome that they automatically fly everywhere. Even Joe Biden, approaching the inauguration, I read was FLYING to DC. From Delaware. That's barely over a hundred miles. You can't even get to cruising altitude. It's stupid.
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.


So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

Are YOU saying that a train will NEVER be able to travel as fast as current commercial aircraft? Let's hear you say that bit of stupid.


Nope. Top speeds of a train are 267mph. Commercial airliner is around 570mph. Aint gonna happen.


Top speeds [sic] of which train? I've already posted that the TGV has done over 350. That's not even counting the hyperloop others have posted about which would double that. That hyperloop doesn't exist yet, but the alleged quote, again DOES say "imagine a world where", it does not say "you can do this right now".

Besides which, as I pointed out at the beginning of all this, plane travel involves a fuck of a lot more than just the flying, which adds hours to the trip.

I swear ta god summa y'all seem to have never been on a plane trip at all. Which is fine, but don't sit here and pontificate on something y'all don't understand.

350 mph is a lie, no passenger trains do that with passengers on board. There is no demand for this in the USA except the NE coast, Boston/NYC/Philly/DC.

Funny. there didn't used to be any passenger jets capable of supersonic flight. But then, THERE WERE!

And now there aren’t. They were too expensive to keep flying and had a tendency to crash. If they had government subsidies they would still be here though.

And they're bringing them back

You keep digging up this off topic crap to avoid why you are just dead wrong.

Biden was speaking of the future.
You demand to believe that he was talking about now.

You're confused or just being dishonest.
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.


So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

Are YOU saying that a train will NEVER be able to travel as fast as current commercial aircraft? Let's hear you say that bit of stupid.


Nope. Top speeds of a train are 267mph. Commercial airliner is around 570mph. Aint gonna happen.


Top speeds [sic] of which train? I've already posted that the TGV has done over 350. That's not even counting the hyperloop others have posted about which would double that. That hyperloop doesn't exist yet, but the alleged quote, again DOES say "imagine a world where", it does not say "you can do this right now".

Besides which, as I pointed out at the beginning of all this, plane travel involves a fuck of a lot more than just the flying, which adds hours to the trip.

I swear ta god summa y'all seem to have never been on a plane trip at all. Which is fine, but don't sit here and pontificate on something y'all don't understand.

350 mph is a lie, no passenger trains do that with passengers on board. There is no demand for this in the USA except the NE coast, Boston/NYC/Philly/DC.

Funny. there didn't used to be any passenger jets capable of supersonic flight. But then, THERE WERE!

And now there aren’t. They were too expensive to keep flying and had a tendency to crash. If they had government subsidies they would still be here though.

And they're bringing them back

You keep digging up this off topic crap to avoid why you are just dead wrong.

Biden was speaking of the future.
You demand to believe that he was talking about now.

You're confused or just being dishonest.

He might be talking about. . . "the future," but what we have now, are real, practical applications for that NOW, as this is the infrastructure bill. Spending money on unproven tech is reckless. Especially if it is not in demand by the free market.

Joe Biden Says Trains Will Soon Be Almost as Fast as Planes. That's Ridiculous.
Advocates of high-speed rail have been overpromising and underdelivering for decades, but Biden just raised the bar.


". . . For context, the fastest speed that a train has ever achieved—not while carrying passengers, mind you, but just as an experiment—is 357 mph. Over long distances, while carrying passengers and making stops at stations, the world's speediest train is China's Beijing to Nanjing line, which runs at slightly less than 200 mph.

Meanwhile, the average speed of a commercial jet in the United States is about 500 mph.

That's not even close to being an apples-to-apples comparison. After all, planes carrying passengers used to routinely break the sound barrier (roughly 760 mph, though it varies based on atmospheric conditions), and experimental aircraft have gone far faster. Still, the world's fastest train still finishes a distant second when matched up against an average, boring Boeing 737.

In other words, "close to as fast" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in Biden's prediction about the future of transportation in America.

But the more important point has nothing to do with racing trains against planes. Biden's comments on Wednesday are part of a grand tradition of overpromising the potential of high-speed rail—though he might have set a new record for the widest gap between imagination and reality.. . . "


Video can be seen at this link;

Biden touts trains as fast as planes, supersonic jets in infrastructure push

In reality? The speech wasn't too bad when he didn't go off script. The right just tore it down, because when he did say dumb shit, like that train comment? It was, well, really out there. It short, it over promises, and under-delivers. It is a recipe for corruption, greed and graft. Just think of all those crumbling empty cities in China.


Like this one, pushing this infrastructure plan by saying, soon, someday, we would be able to fly around the world in an hour? wtf? :dunno:

". . . I tell the kids — the young people who work for me and to all my kids — when I go on college campuses, they’re going to see more change in the next 10 years than we’ve seen in the last 50 years. We’re going to talk about commercial aircraft flying at subsonic speeds — supersonic speeds. Be able to, figuratively, if you may — if we decided to do it, traverse the world in about an hour, travel 21,000 miles an hour. So much is changing. We have got to lead it. . . ."

 
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I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.


So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

Are YOU saying that a train will NEVER be able to travel as fast as current commercial aircraft? Let's hear you say that bit of stupid.


Nope. Top speeds of a train are 267mph. Commercial airliner is around 570mph. Aint gonna happen.


Top speeds [sic] of which train? I've already posted that the TGV has done over 350. That's not even counting the hyperloop others have posted about which would double that. That hyperloop doesn't exist yet, but the alleged quote, again DOES say "imagine a world where", it does not say "you can do this right now".

Besides which, as I pointed out at the beginning of all this, plane travel involves a fuck of a lot more than just the flying, which adds hours to the trip.

I swear ta god summa y'all seem to have never been on a plane trip at all. Which is fine, but don't sit here and pontificate on something y'all don't understand.

350 mph is a lie, no passenger trains do that with passengers on board. There is no demand for this in the USA except the NE coast, Boston/NYC/Philly/DC.

Funny. there didn't used to be any passenger jets capable of supersonic flight. But then, THERE WERE!

And now there aren’t. They were too expensive to keep flying and had a tendency to crash. If they had government subsidies they would still be here though.

And they're bringing them back

You keep digging up this off topic crap to avoid why you are just dead wrong.

Biden was speaking of the future.
You demand to believe that he was talking about now.

You're confused or just being dishonest.

I’m just stating facts. If you and bidumb are on a drunken dementia filled fantasy about the future that’s fine. It’s not impossible but I’m not sure we all want to donate a huge part of our paychecks in taxes to fake it. All of your dreams have to come true when two things merge. Consumer demand and a private sector solution. Until that happens we may as well pass the Jack bottle around again and dream about teleportation.
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.


So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

Are YOU saying that a train will NEVER be able to travel as fast as current commercial aircraft? Let's hear you say that bit of stupid.


Nope. Top speeds of a train are 267mph. Commercial airliner is around 570mph. Aint gonna happen.


Top speeds [sic] of which train? I've already posted that the TGV has done over 350. That's not even counting the hyperloop others have posted about which would double that. That hyperloop doesn't exist yet, but the alleged quote, again DOES say "imagine a world where", it does not say "you can do this right now".

Besides which, as I pointed out at the beginning of all this, plane travel involves a fuck of a lot more than just the flying, which adds hours to the trip.

I swear ta god summa y'all seem to have never been on a plane trip at all. Which is fine, but don't sit here and pontificate on something y'all don't understand.

350 mph is a lie, no passenger trains do that with passengers on board. There is no demand for this in the USA except the NE coast, Boston/NYC/Philly/DC.

Funny. there didn't used to be any passenger jets capable of supersonic flight. But then, THERE WERE!

And now there aren’t. They were too expensive to keep flying and had a tendency to crash. If they had government subsidies they would still be here though.

And they're bringing them back

You keep digging up this off topic crap to avoid why you are just dead wrong.

Biden was speaking of the future.
You demand to believe that he was talking about now.

You're confused or just being dishonest.

He might be talking about. . . "the future," but what we have now, are real, practical applications for that NOW, as this is the infrastructure bill. Spending money on unproven tech is reckless. Especially if it is not in demand by the free market.

Joe Biden Says Trains Will Soon Be Almost as Fast as Planes. That's Ridiculous.
Advocates of high-speed rail have been overpromising and underdelivering for decades, but Biden just raised the bar.


". . . For context, the fastest speed that a train has ever achieved—not while carrying passengers, mind you, but just as an experiment—is 357 mph. Over long distances, while carrying passengers and making stops at stations, the world's speediest train is China's Beijing to Nanjing line, which runs at slightly less than 200 mph.

Meanwhile, the average speed of a commercial jet in the United States is about 500 mph.

That's not even close to being an apples-to-apples comparison. After all, planes carrying passengers used to routinely break the sound barrier (roughly 760 mph, though it varies based on atmospheric conditions), and experimental aircraft have gone far faster. Still, the world's fastest train still finishes a distant second when matched up against an average, boring Boeing 737.

In other words, "close to as fast" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in Biden's prediction about the future of transportation in America.

But the more important point has nothing to do with racing trains against planes. Biden's comments on Wednesday are part of a grand tradition of overpromising the potential of high-speed rail—though he might have set a new record for the widest gap between imagination and reality.. . . "


Video can be seen at this link;

Biden touts trains as fast as planes, supersonic jets in infrastructure push

In reality? The speech wasn't too bad when he didn't go off script. The right just tore it down, because when he did say dumb shit, like that train comment? It was, well, really out there. It short, it over promises, and under-delivers. It is a recipe for corruption, greed and graft. Just think of all those crumbling empty cities in China.


Like this one, pushing this infrastructure plan by saying, soon, someday, we would be able to fly around the world in an hour? wtf? :dunno:

". . . I tell the kids — the young people who work for me and to all my kids — when I go on college campuses, they’re going to see more change in the next 10 years than we’ve seen in the last 50 years. We’re going to talk about commercial aircraft flying at subsonic speeds — supersonic speeds. Be able to, figuratively, if you may — if we decided to do it, traverse the world in about an hour, travel 21,000 miles an hour. So much is changing. We have got to lead it. . . ."


The space shuttle hit 17,500 mph. For five people and some freight. It cost right at 2 billion per launch to do that. It doesn’t take much math to figure out this pipe dream. You need power and a fuel source, yet we are trying to go backward with windmills and shit for our homes. You can’t windmill your ass to 21,000 miles per hour. Holy shit.
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.


So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

Are YOU saying that a train will NEVER be able to travel as fast as current commercial aircraft? Let's hear you say that bit of stupid.


Nope. Top speeds of a train are 267mph. Commercial airliner is around 570mph. Aint gonna happen.


Top speeds [sic] of which train? I've already posted that the TGV has done over 350. That's not even counting the hyperloop others have posted about which would double that. That hyperloop doesn't exist yet, but the alleged quote, again DOES say "imagine a world where", it does not say "you can do this right now".

Besides which, as I pointed out at the beginning of all this, plane travel involves a fuck of a lot more than just the flying, which adds hours to the trip.

I swear ta god summa y'all seem to have never been on a plane trip at all. Which is fine, but don't sit here and pontificate on something y'all don't understand.

350 mph is a lie, no passenger trains do that with passengers on board. There is no demand for this in the USA except the NE coast, Boston/NYC/Philly/DC.


It's documented. I posted the video earlier.

That'll be post 94 if you're scoring at home. Or even if you're by yourself.

Not with passengers. The fastest is a 19 mile track in China, 267 MPH. Shuttle from Airport in Shanghai.
 
Can you imagine what the media would be calling for if anyone but a Dimbo were making such outlandish lies? Does anyone give a dam?
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, waiting for baggage carousels, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Trains, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.


We average better than 5K train/motor vehicle collisions a year. I suspect the number of plane/car collisions is lower.


Who knows, but the OP wasn't about collisions, it was about speed.

It was also about not knowing what a real link is.


I am guessing a 300mph train could really sneak around the corner and slice my car in half.


Cool. Then you'd have TWO cars.


Actually, he would have two motorcycles.
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, waiting for baggage carousels, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Trains, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.


We average better than 5K train/motor vehicle collisions a year. I suspect the number of plane/car collisions is lower.


Who knows, but the OP wasn't about collisions, it was about speed.

It was also about not knowing what a real link is.

HUGE difference between France and the US
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Biden just said he's planning to build trains that travel as fast as commercial jets

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something. ...

I will never understand what US-Ameticans call "to discuss" and /or "to think" or "to argue". Why do you start such a complex theme with such a stupid comment? The step to fly with high speed trains on ground zero is an extremely good idea on many reasons. But why to say anything to this theme now after this absurde idiotic opening? ...
 
first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as".
How close?

commercial jets fly 550 mph

will biden’s train go 500 mph?

or is 250 close enough for government work?
 
... Tunnels or built above grade level. Very, very expensive either way. Not happening. ...

Never someone will fly to the moon. Too expensive. ... But what had happened if not 1/3rd of all jobs in the USA in this time of history depended on the "space industry" and created forms to think, which leaded into our world here, where for example worldwide communication is no problem any longer (what caused also a lot of jobs). ... Never say automatically "no", isn't it? ...
 

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