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I know you have been shown links to multiple republican lawmakers who have said they want to do everything from privatize those programs to sunsetting them, and even some have said they should be eliminated. Even if you don't personally support those things, why can't you acknowledge that those are things that republican lawmakers have said?Nobody is proposing cutting or eliminating SS, you fucking liar.
And stealing populist rhetoric about jobs and the midddle class, when you really don't give a flying fuck about them, isn't playing anyone like a fiddle....It's the same plagiarizing that the senile old felon has always done.
I support cutting social security and medicare as long as every other government program is cut by the same amountIt is funny to watch Joe playing trump supporting Republicans like a fiddle. If the Republican minority that publicly support cutting Social Security, keep it up, they may be solely responsible for Re-Electing Joe, out of their own sheer stupidity on their losing issue.
Does not amtter.Nobody is proposing cutting or eliminating SS, you fucking liar.
And stealing populist rhetoric about jobs and the midddle class, when you really don't give a flying fuck about them, isn't playing anyone like a fiddle....It's the same plagiarizing that the senile old felon has always done.
Poopeypants is the one to watch out for stealing your Social Security and Medicare doofus. The rest of the lies from that idiot speech are too numerous to count.Since Tuesday’s State of the Union, President Joe Biden has had Republicans on the ropes over Social Security and Medicare, and he’s not backing down. After his resounding State of the Union victory, Biden took his win on the road to Florida and Wisconsin. Those happen to be the home states of the senators with the most radical proposals for killing off the programs.
Oddly, those senators—Rick Scott (FL) and Ron Johnson (WI)—decided to just keep digging. They lent a shovel to Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD) over the weekend, who went on CNN Sunday to tell Jake Tapper that he looks at Social Security like defense spending, something that should be “managed” every year by Congress.
Biden handed the GOP a shovel, and they just can't stop digging
Since Tuesday’s State of the Union, President Joe Biden has had Republicans on the ropes over Social Security and Medicare, and he’s not backing down. After his resounding State of the Union victory, Biden took his win on the road to Florida and...m.dailykos.com
The only thing that’s going to get managed is the Presidents plan to expand the programs, and make those losers billionaire donors pay for it.
Why can't you acknowledge that Biden, himself, called for exactly that in a 1995 senate floor speech?why can't you acknowledge that those are things that republican lawmakers have said?
Stupid is as Stupid does.Poopeypants is the one to watch out for stealing your Social Security and Medicare doofus. The rest of the lies from that idiot speech are too numerous to count.
Are you stupid or something Forrest??
Get a clue. State of the Union speeches are just political speeches, using the opportunity afforded by a requirement in the constitution to report to the two houses of Congress. I said the first night he gave it, if you missed it, no problem as you will hear the key parts in every stump speech he gives for the next two years. Nobody can help it, if he was smarter than the Republicans that night. I can't help it if misguided supporters in that party, think it wise to keep that third rail subject alive. Some people are not conservative enough of thought, to know when to shut up after they take a public butt fking from somebody they thought was beyond giving them a humping them in public.No relevance. Cheap misdirection in a stump speech disguised as SOTU.
25 years is a long time, and plenty of time for him to have formed the opinion he has now, and to make it clear to the country where he stands now, which he has done. Republican remarks have been much more recent, and I haven't noticed any effort from any of them to disavow their remarks, at least not until the last week or so. Rick Scott, a republican still has sunsetting those programs in his brochure laying out his 11 step plan. (page 18)This whole stupid ploy has been used by the democrats in every election for the last 50 years. It was bullshit then and it is bullshit now. Watch Biden call for the demise of SS and medicare in his 1995 senate address. I've posted it numerous times since the SOTU. Hard to argue that he said it when it is coming out his mouth.
Nobody is saying it needs to or will be cut.Try convincing anyone almost 65 (or obviously older) that has paid in to Social Security since they were 16, that the benefits need to be cut, and you won't find many takers, but will find a lot that will think you are trying to cheat them out of what they paid for. It is the third rail, especially among older voters, a voting block, probably more likely to vote than other age demographic, as they were raised believing in voting and still do.
I am in Tennessee. State income tax is a similar third rail, down here. Just bringing the idea up will lose an election if running or get you voted out, if actually in office and suggesting it, and it appears to have a ripple affect to other candidates of the same party.
If you think it a good issue, Marty, go for it. Just one more stake in the heart of the Republican Party, already wounded by trumpism and tax breaks for the rich. So, keep it alive if you think best, but from watching politics for most of 69 years, I don't recommend it as a winning strategy. Just Sayin..
Not me. If you run, I will dance when you lose your election, laughing like hell, wagging my finger in your face telling you I Told You So!I support cutting social securit and medicare as long ss every other government program is cut by the same amount
Another made up Dimwit lie. Poopeypants wants it eliminated not us.Translation: 'managed' in that when Republicans next control the WH and both Houses of Congress, eliminate Social Security and Medicare.
Kind of like the folks who broadcast minor irrelevant points that have been bullshit political tactics for over 50 years.Some people are not conservative enough of thought
And our enemies will laugh and dance when you drive America off a cliff with unsupportable debtNot me. If you run, I will dance when you lose your election, laughing like hell, wagging my finger in your face telling you I Told You So!
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25 years is a long time, and plenty of time for him to have formed the opinion he has now, and to make it clear to the country where he stands now, which he has done. Republican remarks have been much more recent, and I haven't noticed any effort from any of them to disavow their remarks, at least not until the last week or so. Rick Scott, a republican still has sunsetting those programs in his brochure laying out his 11 step plan. (page 18)
See post #18 and Post #28.Nobody is saying it needs to or will be cut.
Except Poopeypants and he has been saying it for years.
So, you're saying that Biden's lies have had an effect? Maybe, maybe not.Since Tuesday’s State of the Union, President Joe Biden has had Republicans on the ropes over Social Security and Medicare, and he’s not backing down. After his resounding State of the Union victory, Biden took his win on the road to Florida and Wisconsin. Those happen to be the home states of the senators with the most radical proposals for killing off the programs.
Oddly, those senators—Rick Scott (FL) and Ron Johnson (WI)—decided to just keep digging. They lent a shovel to Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD) over the weekend, who went on CNN Sunday to tell Jake Tapper that he looks at Social Security like defense spending, something that should be “managed” every year by Congress.
Biden handed the GOP a shovel, and they just can't stop digging
Since Tuesday’s State of the Union, President Joe Biden has had Republicans on the ropes over Social Security and Medicare, and he’s not backing down. After his resounding State of the Union victory, Biden took his win on the road to Florida and...m.dailykos.com
The only thing that’s going to get managed is the Presidents plan to expand the programs, and make those losers billionaire donors pay for it.
Correct.That's rich. And the democrats are no longer KKK and they don't promote division in the country either, eh?
Right. Just image a a whole herd of people like White Man No. 6 getting all pissed off and storming the Capital. The place would be littered with empty Ensure cans, denture (they fall out), and poop. It would be a geriatric insurrection!Try convincing anyone almost 65 (or obviously older) that has paid in to Social Security since they were 16, that the benefits need to be cut, and you won't find many takers, but will find a lot that will think you are trying to cheat them out of what they paid for. It is the third rail, especially among older voters, a voting block, probably more likely to vote than other age demographic, as they were raised believing in voting and still do.
I am in Tennessee. State income tax is a similar third rail, down here. Just bringing the idea up will lose an election if running or get you voted out, if actually in office and suggesting it, and it appears to have a ripple affect to other candidates of the same party.
If you think it a good issue, Marty, go for it. Just one more stake in the heart of the Republican Party, already wounded by trumpism and tax breaks for the rich. So, keep it alive if you think best, but from watching politics for most of 69 years, I don't recommend it as a winning strategy. Just Sayin..
