Biden DOJ Sides with Porn Industry's Lawsuit Against Texas's Age Verification Law

[martybegan]

But you did.




The tools are already there. Barrett argued they are too much of a bother for her to bother with.

No, I didn't.

The tools would work better if we lumped all porn sites into a specified domain.

 

[Rawley]

There’s a million what ifs, none of them matter unless you have parents who actually do their jobs.

I'll bite - how does a parent "do their jobs" of preventing their kids from being exposed to porn on the Internet

 

[Hellokitty]

Last I checked, you need a device to access WiFi.

Don't school give kids Ipad/laptops?

 

[pknopp]

No, I didn't.

The tools would work better if we lumped all porn sites into a specified domain.

Which is impossible which makes this just rambling for no reason whatsoever.

 

[Rawley]

Be a good parent. Kids will be kids. You do your best. Even with this law kids will get around it. What will she do then?

SO you have no suggestions. Didn't think so

 

[WorldWatcher]

I am about as far right as you can go, and i support states doing this. All you have to do is take your freaking picture or something. And then you dont have to worry about it ever again.
Kids can pull this shit up in school FFS.
Porn is hard to get for minors everywhere but the internet? Come on.

I don't know what school system you have experience with, but in our area the IT departments block access to porn sites as a function of the network.

If kids are going off network (i.e. using their cell phones on mobile service) to access porn, that is not on the school.

Maybe parents should call for better parental controls on their kids phones.

WW

 

[pknopp]

SO you have no suggestions. Didn't think so

Sorry my answer was too complicated for you.

 

[Marener]

Don't school give kids Ipad/laptops?

Yes, which are managed devices and do WAY more to block porn than this worthless law.

That is, unless the school is incompetent. This is Texas, after all. Not exactly know for stellar education.

For the record, I think giving iPads to school kids is stupid.

 

[martybegan]

Which is impossible which makes this just rambling for no reason whatsoever.

It's not impossible, and it gives the parents the option to put screening software onto their kids devices or not.

It makes the screening much much simpler.

 

[hadit]

And he’ll easily circumvent any other restriction the law puts in place.

Oh, I'm aware they can. Heck, my son infiltrated ECPI's network through a printer. Had to write a paper on how he did it to avoid legal prosecution. We know kids are innovative and will do stuff. That doesn't negate the state's interest in making it more difficult for them to access this stuff.

The only thing this accomplishes is invading everyone’s privacy for no apparent benefit.

Parents can fully exercise their responsibility at home, lock down internet access, not allow unsupervised phone or device usage, do everything the usual suspects claim they are supposed to do, and have all of that totally undermined when their kids go to school and administrative personnel who don't give a rat's flying patoot don't bother to police what the kids are watching on their tablets. If we all agree it's not a good thing for kids to be exposed to this, the state should take active steps to make it more difficult. I have to show ID to buy alcohol, I assume I would have to show it to buy an adult magazine in a store, why not show it to access pron online?

 

[Marener]

I'll bite - how does a parent "do their jobs" of preventing their kids from being exposed to porn on the Internet

You can’t stop them from being exposed to things. That’s your first misconception.

 

[Marener]

Oh, I'm aware they can. Heck, my son infiltrated ECPI's network through a printer. Had to write a paper on how he did it to avoid legal prosecution. We know kids are innovative and will do stuff. That doesn't negate the state's interest in making it more difficult for them to access this stuff.

Parents can fully exercise their responsibility at home, lock down internet access, not allow unsupervised phone or device usage, do everything the usual suspects claim they are supposed to do, and have all of that totally undermined when their kids go to school and administrative personnel who don't give a rat's flying patoot don't bother to police what the kids are watching on their tablets. If we all agree it's not a good thing for kids to be exposed to this, the state should take active steps to make it more difficult. I have to show ID to buy alcohol, I assume I would have to show it to buy an adult magazine in a store, why not show it to access pron online?

ID laws to buy liquor is quite effective. This law is not.

 

[pknopp]

Oh, I'm aware they can. Heck, my son infiltrated ECPI's network through a printer. Had to write a paper on how he did it to avoid legal prosecution. We know kids are innovative and will do stuff. That doesn't negate the state's interest in making it more difficult for them to access this stuff.

Parents can fully exercise their responsibility at home, lock down internet access, not allow unsupervised phone or device usage, do everything the usual suspects claim they are supposed to do, and have all of that totally undermined when their kids go to school and administrative personnel who don't give a rat's flying patoot don't bother to police what the kids are watching on their tablets. If we all agree it's not a good thing for kids to be exposed to this, the state should take active steps to make it more difficult. I have to show ID to buy alcohol, I assume I would have to show it to buy an adult magazine in a store, why not show it to access pron online?

A 15 year old goes into the store to buy alcohol. He is unable to provide proof of age so he leaves empty handed.

With this it will still be easy for kids to get around the law. There are sites not actually porn sites that have porn on them. There are sites off shore that will still allow access.

Back a few years ago Craigslist got concerned over meet up posts on their boards. They banned them. People just kinda sorta hid what they they were looking for while everyone understood what they were looking for and other sites simply opened to cover the issue.

Just as I noted earlier concerning TikTok. Kids didn't care, they simply moved to the next Chinese sites to post their video's.

 

[martybegan]

A 15 year old goes into the store to buy alcohol. He is unable to provide proof of age so he leaves empty handed.

With this it will still be easy for kids to get around the law. There are sites not actually porn sites that have porn on them. There are sites off shore that will still allow access.

Back a few years ago Craigslist got concerned over meet up posts on their boards. They banned them. People just kinda sorta hid what they they were looking for while everyone understood what they were looking for and other sites simply opened to cover the issue.

Just as I noted earlier concerning TikTok. Kids didn't care, they simply moved to the next Chinese sites to post their video's.

The objective is not to stop everyone, it's to make it harder so most people simply don't have the stamina to get through the whole process.

Car alarms and things like "The club" aren't designed to stop hardcore professional car thieves, they are to stop the joy riders and the meth-heads.

 

[Rawley]

It's more than the Biden DOJ.

you claimed this has nothing to do with Biden. This thread is about Biden's DOJ, like you, supporting children's access to porn

Sorry my answer was too complicated for you.

Pretty fucked up that you think to be a good parent, just be a good parent is complicated. Please assure us that they've taken your Drivers License away,

 

[pknopp]

The objective is not to stop everyone, it's to make it harder so most people simply don't have the stamina to get through the whole process.

LOL, kids don't have the stamina to get around restrictions. LOL

They do it all the time and it's not hard.

Car alarms and things like "The club" aren't designed to stop hardcore professional car thieves, they are to stop the joy riders and the meth-heads.

And restricts no one else's Constitutional rights.

 

[Hellokitty]

School

School iPads are locked down and centrally managed. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Kids can use VPNs to get around any of this. Are you going to ban those too?

There’s a million what ifs, none of them matter unless you have parents who actually do their jobs.

Schools have IT departments to lockdown and manage computers. Most parents are unable to provide the same.

 

[martybegan]

LOL, kids don't have the stamina to get around restrictions. LOL

They do it all the time and it's not hard.




And restricts no one else's Constitutional rights.

Not all of them do. Sorry, but with tech getting easier and easier to use the whole "kids know about computers more than their parents" thing is an old trope. That was a 80's and 90's thing, which started dying out in the 2000's.

How many houses don't even have a PC anymore? Most people use phones and tablets and those are by design "use while not knowing how they work"

 

[pknopp]

Not all of them do. Sorry, but with tech getting easier and easier to use the whole "kids know about computers more than their parents" thing is an old trope. That was a 80's and 90's thing, which started dying out in the 2000's.

How many houses don't even have a PC anymore? Most people use phones and tablets and those are by design "use while not knowing how they work"

And really irrelevant. Parents can filter and monitor what their kids access more efficiently than the nanny government all without violating the rights of others.

 

[martybegan]

And really irrelevant. Parents can filter and monitor what their kids access more efficiently than the nanny government all without violating the rights of others.

How is making all porn sites use ",xxx" as a domain so filters can work easier violating the rights of others?

is it somehow harder for a person to type in armlessmidgets.xxx than armlessmidgets.com?