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- Aug 25, 2009
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Nobody knows more about mental illness than a sufferer like yourself.1. Her. Why do intentionally mislabel them? She is a girl and is competing as a girl...and is beaten by girls.Because they are girls. They would get bullied to no end if they had to play on a boys team.Why does it matter if they participate in boys or girls? It's sports either way. Much of the benefits are from FAIR sports. That's why there are so many rules.No, support from community and family keeps them from self mutilation and suicide. Sports are often important in a community.And at what age? And ruining girls sports is the only thing keeping them from cutting the penis off?These kids DO know. It’s not a game or a phase they grow out of. It’s OK. Some people (mostly Republicans) can’t or will not try to understand it unless it touches them personally.Children don’t know much of anything. I know younger kids that want to grow up to be dinosaurs. It seems like a decision that is not for children. I mean kids aren’t treated the same as adults for crimes. I’m pretty sure that is justified as kids make a lot of mistakes.The difference is that these children know they were born as the wrong gender.And what’s different? Lots of kids deal with things that they can not do. Cutting a pen is off doesn’t make a boy a girl. Seems they aren’t getting the correct treatment if they would do that.Hopefully you will never have to find out it’s not the same. Kids try and cut their own penises off.They should be able to. Lots of kids in wheelchairs want to walk, but they can still be happy.They can’t love who they are until they can become their true selves.It’s probably not a choice children should be making. How about they love who they are?There is no counter research. It’s simple logic. If you accept and love your trans child, they are going to be less likely to want to commit suicide, duh. Some parents have to decide do they want a dead son or a live daughter.You read a lot of studies about transgender issues do you? Well, you’re missing a lot of them.You find suicide funny?Transgendered individuals are not "people with mental problems". It is the 21st century. Some "boys and girls" were born into the wrong body. Fortunately, science can fix that for them and even more fortunately they are getting more support for it from family and friends.They aren't boys. They are trans girls. Read up on Renee Richards.No you don't or you would require that all competitors come from the same social/economical background, are all the same height, weight and have the same exact muscle mass.They still don't care about girls or women's sports.I do love that as of 1/19/2020....you couldn't get two guys anywhere in the world to discuss women's /girls sports. Regardless of the dude's political leanings, their race, color, creed, age, etc. There was no place in the universe where two men gave a collective single shit about women's sports.I gotta say that is fucking hilarious, Not what happened to the girls but when it happened. 2017 and 2019. But it's Biden's EO in 2021 that destroyed them?
On the issue, I think girls should be able to move up in class and compete with the boys but not the other way around.
But now...we have like 12 threads on it and right wing mouth breathing knuckle draggers are acting like they care.
This is how the rightwing really feels:
...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?
For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness,
I care about fairness.
Some basketball players have acromegaly, a hormonal condition that results in very large hands and feet. This condition is surely a genetic advantage in the sport, but players with acromegaly are not banned.Some doctors speculate that Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps has Marfan syndrome, a genetic condition that results in the long, flexible arms and legs that made Phelps such a force in the pool. Major league baseball players tend to have extraordinary eyesight, which allows them to see the seams on a tiny ball hurtling toward them at high speeds and hit it with greater success than those with poorer vision.In all these ways, sports aren't fair and yet, these types of inequalities are not just acceptable, but mostly unnoticed. For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness, but the need to protect and reinforce the idea of gender itself.
YOur excuses for pretending to not understand that boys and girls are different, is well done.
Letting girls compete against girls, gives athletic girls a "fair" chance. Yes, not all girls have a shot, but some of them do.
Putting boys in the mix, takes that away from them.
Boys are boys. Girls are girls. People with mental problems don't magically change.
Just another issue where the right wingers are on the wrong side of history.
Funny how that increased support doesn't seem to decrease their suicide attempts.
That Tide of History you feel so good about being on the side of? It's called "Decline and Fall".
Actually, increased support does lead to fewer suicides.
Intervenable factors associated with suicide risk in transgender persons: a respondent driven sampling study in Ontario, CanadaBackground Across Europe, Canada, and the United States, 22–43 % of transgender (trans) people report a history of suicide attempts. We aimed to identify intervenable factors (related to social inclusion, transphobia, or sex/gender transition) associated with reduced risk of past-year suicide...bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com
ResultsAmong trans Ontarians, 35.1 % (95 % CI: 27.6, 42.5) seriously considered, and 11.2 % (95 % CI: 6.0, 16.4) attempted, suicide in the past year. Social support, reduced transphobia, and having any personal identification documents changed to an appropriate sex designation were associated with large relative and absolute reductions in suicide risk, as was completing a medical transition through hormones and/or surgeries (when needed). Parental support for gender identity was associated with reduced ideation. Lower self-reported transphobia (10th versus 90th percentile) was associated with a 66 % reduction in ideation (RR = 0.34, 95 % CI: 0.17, 0.67), and an additional 76 % reduction in attempts among those with ideation (RR = 0.24; 95 % CI: 0.07, 0.82). This corresponds to potential prevention of 160 ideations per 1000 trans persons, and 200 attempts per 1,000 with ideation, based on a hypothetical reduction of transphobia from current levels to the 10th percentile.ConclusionsLarge effect sizes were observed for this controlled analysis of intervenable factors, suggesting that interventions to increase social inclusion and access to medical transition, and to reduce transphobia, have the potential to contribute to substantial reductions in the extremely high prevalences of suicide ideation and attempts within trans populations. Such interventions at the population level may require policy change.
First study I've heard of that claims that. We will see if it stands up over time.
The finding suggests that a major — and politically controversial — aspect of trans health care for minors could help reduce the community’s disproportionate suicide risk.www.nbcnews.com
Summary The Center for Disease Control and Prevention’s Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance Survey (YRBS) highlights high rates of adverse mental health indicators among lesbian, gay, […]www.thetrevorproject.org
Can't be bothered to do counter research. I withdraw the point.
It really does often come down to a parent having to decide whether they want a live daughter or a dead son (or vice versa).
Cutting their penises off is what kids do when not supported in their desire to transition.
The problem is parents don’t get their children treatment. They tell him to “knock it off” and just “be a boy” or “be a girl”. Oh, and the treatment that will be recommended by actual medical professionals will not be one that you agree with I’m sure...
I don’t see how playing girls sports is going to be the thing to save anyone.
Yes or no, there are benefits to children participating in sports.
You think she should be changing in the men's locker room?
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What about this guy? He should wrestle with girls and use the girls locker room?
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1. If his mental issues is that he has to dress like and make himself look like a girl, then maybe part of the cost is no sports for him.
2. A girl that takes so many male hormones that she looks like that, should not be allowed to compete in girls sports. It would not be fair to the girls. If her mental issues are such that she needs to do that, then maybe part of the cost is no sports for her.
2. HE wanted to wrestle on the boys team but stupid laws passed by transphobic assholes made that impossible.
1. Just keeping it real. I'm sympathetic to his mental issues, but, that does not mean I have to play along.
2. But, she is not a boy. Too jacked up to play with the girls and still not a boy. So, no sports for her. That is fair.
Is this really that big a deal?