Why do Democrats want men in women's sports and bathrooms

[Lesh]

Based on fact, not on ideology.

Of course they do.

Doctors and scientists do not say that the trans drugs cause muscle loss to the point that it eliminates the natural advantage that a male who has gone through male puberty has over a male who has not gone through male puberty or a female who has not and will not go through male puberty.

If any doctor or scientist claims that women and girls are not being injured or not losing opportunities due to males being allowed to claim trans status and start pummeling them, please post it.

Not sure what advantages you mean. Please post a quote from the scientist or doctor who makes that claim.

Do Women Have More Endurance Than Men? The Science Just Got A Lot Clearer

One of the biggest and most fascinating debates in sports science—Do women have more endurance than men?—took two giant leaps forward in recent weeks.

marathonhandbook.com

But more to your point

Show us where women who were consistent winners have lost out consistently to trans people

That should be easy and it would prove your case

Not just some mediocre athlete who sometimes beats inferior competition.

Elite athletes

 

[Hafar1014]

Normal males don’t rape?

Then who’s doing all the raping?

Its abnormal you do know that so how long have you hated men

 

[Seymour Flops]

So you base your claims not on Doctors or scientists…

You have not shown any doctors are scientists, you've just claimed that they say this.

And then claim it’s not ideology driven?

Every fact I stated is common sense and common knowledge, but it is of couse backed up by doctors and scientists, as well as scientific studies. The transgender ideology is based on just that, ideology.

Key findings of the statement are as follows:

• Biological sex is a determinant of athletic performance: adult males are faster, stronger, more powerful than females because of fundamental sex differences in anatomy and physiology dictated by sex chromosomes.
• Before puberty, sex differences in athletic performance are minimal. Significant differences emerge at puberty (-12 years) due to anabolic effects of testosterone in males. Testosterone levels rise 20-30-fold in males during puberty and are 15 times higher in males than females by age 18.
• Direct and indirect effects of testosterone during male puberty include increase skeletal muscle mass due to larger muscle fiber cross-sectional area, especially fast, type II fibers; lower percentage body fat; higher hemoglobin concentration and mass; larger ventricular mass (heart) and cardiac volumes; larger airways and lungs; greater body height; and longer limbs.
• Adult males are stronger, more powerful, and faster than females of similar age and training status. The sex difference in athletic performance where endurance or muscular power is required is roughly 10-30% depending on the event.

I know that you know this. I don't know if you are pretending not to as a joke, or you seriously expect to be believed.

Do Women Have More Endurance Than Men? The Science Just Got A Lot Clearer​

One of the biggest and most fascinating debates in sports science—Do women have more endurance than men?—took two giant leaps forward in recent weeks.

marathonhandbook.com

Yes, there are a few women athletes who are outliers and are great at sports. I would encourage them to compete in male sports, but not to claim that they are "transgender" in order to do it.

High school, Junior high and college sports are not made up of these extreme outliers.

But more to your point

Show us where women who were consistent winners have lost out consistently to trans people

That should be easy and it would prove your case

Not just some mediocre athlete who sometimes beats inferior competition.

Elite athletes

Here you go:

The Women Who Lost To Lia Thomas | Independent Women

The debate over transgender participation in women’s sports is not just one of semantics. It has very real consequences.

www.independentwomen.com

 

[Lesh]

Its abnormal you do know that so how long have you hated men

What?

 

[Lesh]

You have not shown any doctors are scientists, you've just claimed that they say this.

Every fact I stated is common sense and common knowledge, but it is of couse backed up by doctors and scientists, as well as scientific studies. The transgender ideology is based on just that, ideology.

Key findings of the statement are as follows:

• Biological sex is a determinant of athletic performance: adult males are faster, stronger, more powerful than females because of fundamental sex differences in anatomy and physiology dictated by sex chromosomes.
• Before puberty, sex differences in athletic performance are minimal. Significant differences emerge at puberty (-12 years) due to anabolic effects of testosterone in males. Testosterone levels rise 20-30-fold in males during puberty and are 15 times higher in males than females by age 18.
• Direct and indirect effects of testosterone during male puberty include increase skeletal muscle mass due to larger muscle fiber cross-sectional area, especially fast, type II fibers; lower percentage body fat; higher hemoglobin concentration and mass; larger ventricular mass (heart) and cardiac volumes; larger airways and lungs; greater body height; and longer limbs.
• Adult males are stronger, more powerful, and faster than females of similar age and training status. The sex difference in athletic performance where endurance or muscular power is required is roughly 10-30% depending on the event.

I know that you know this. I don't know if you are pretending not to as a joke, or you seriously expect to be believed.

Hey dumbass

“adult males” are one thing

Trans people are another

That was stupid

 

[Hafar1014]

Hey dumbass

“adult males” are one thing

Trans people are another

That was stupid

Trans people cant exist since gender cant be changed.

 

[Lesh]

Based on fact, not on ideology.

Of course they do.

Doctors and scientists do not say that the trans drugs cause muscle loss to the point that it eliminates the natural advantage that a male who has gone through male puberty has over a male who has not gone through male puberty or a female who has not and will not go through male puberty.

If any doctor or scientist claims that women and girls are not being injured or not losing opportunities due to males being allowed to claim trans status and start pummeling them, please post it.

Not sure what advantages you mean. Please post a quote from the scientist or doctor who makes that claim.

When adjusted for height , the average male has about 7% more muscle mass than the same size woman.
Hormone drugs take away 5%,of muscle mass

When you consider that women have better endurance, the advantage all but disappears

 

[Hafar1014]

When adjusted for height , the average male has about 7% more muscle mass than the same size woman.
Hormone drugs take away 5%,of muscle mass

When you consider that women have better endurance, the advantage all but disappears

So why are fake women really men beating the crap out of women in sports. The advantage never goes away.

 

[Lesh]

So why are fake women really men beating the crap out of women in sports. The advantage never goes away.

Let’s see the stats on that

 

[22lcidw]

Do Women Have More Endurance Than Men? The Science Just Got A Lot Clearer

One of the biggest and most fascinating debates in sports science—Do women have more endurance than men?—took two giant leaps forward in recent weeks.

marathonhandbook.com

But more to your point

Show us where women who were consistent winners have lost out consistently to trans people

That should be easy and it would prove your case

Not just some mediocre athlete who sometimes beats inferior competition.

Elite athletes

Title 9 needs to be revised and reduced.

 

[Lesh]

https://www.sf.gov/trans-women-in-sports-facts-over-fear

 

[22lcidw]

We have to many people with their hands out and not enough resources to pay for it. And included with those hands out are lawyers, politicians and lobbyists.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Hey dumbass

“adult males” are one thing

Trans people are another

That was stupid

"Transwomen" are adult males. Teenage "transgirls" are males who have been through male puberty. If you don't know that, you are too stupid to post on a message board.

But I know that you do know that. You are stupid enough to think that I'm stupid enough to think that you're stupid enough not to know that.

But I know you are not that stupid, or you could not type coherent words.

 

[Lesh]

"Transwomen" are adult males. Teenage "transgirls" are males who have been through male puberty. If you don't know that, you are too stupid to post on a message board.

But I know that you do know that. You are stupid enough to think that I'm stupid enough to think that you're stupid enough not to know that.

But I know you are not that stupid, or you could not type coherent words.

You ignore the fact that they have undergone drug therapy

Hard to understand why since it’s been mentioned about a dozen times

 

[Seymour Flops]

When adjusted for height , the average male has about 7% more muscle mass than the same size woman.
Hormone drugs take away 5%,of muscle mass

When you consider that women have better endurance, the advantage all but disappears

Why would we "adjust for height" when males are taller on average than females, including males who go through puberty and then suddenly "realize" they are 'really' misgendered girls. This seems to happen shortly after not making the male teams.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You ignore the fact that they have undergone drug therapy

Hard to understand why since it’s been mentioned about a dozen times

Show me a study that shows that the "drug therapy" eliminated the natural advantage of males.

 

[Lesh]

Why would we "adjust for height" when males are taller on average than females, including males who go through puberty and then suddenly "realize" they are 'really' misgendered girls. This seems to happen shortly after not making the male teams.

So if your point is accurate… no women should be winning anything

Inferior trans women should hold all the titles

Except they don’t

 

[Seymour Flops]

So if your point is accurate… no women should be winning anything

Inferior trans women should hold all the titles

Except they don’t

No, they don't. It is a tiny percentage of guys who make this claim of being transgender in order win in the women's and girls' category, so they have not won every title. But that does not make it any fairer that women and girls are told that they have to undress in front of males as a condition of being on the girls team, that they are told not to complain that men injure them in women's sports, and that even when they manage a tie against a man in a women's swimsuit, the man wins anyway because we don't want to be accused of not letting the trannie win.

Answer the question:

Why do we need to have women's and girls' sports in the first place?