Berkeley, California, bans candy, junk food at grocery checkouts

Healthier snacks can also help. How much more would it cost? An impulse buy may still, pick up the sales slack.

No one EVER bought a granola tofu carob bar on an impulse ... unless that impulse was suicide.

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I actually SUPPORT this and they are not outright banning the sale of them it's JUST from the checkout areas:

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,”

“Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”


As a parent of 6 kidlets I SUPPORT this because we should not be encouraging our children to be wanting all this crap, we should be encouraging them to eat more healthy foods. Mr. Lucy and me do allow the kidlets SOME sugary drinks and candy etc but we ALSO encourage them to eat more healthy foods and for them to learn that the sugary drinks and candy etc are ONLY to be OCCASIONAL situations. We do NOT want our kidlets full of E numbers and sugar and general bad crap that has NO nutritional value.


It's not the junk food that I'm defending.

What I'm defending is the right of the business owner to control their own store.
 
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People who move to progressive jurisdictions like Berkeley, Havana or Pyongyang expect and welcome this kind of micro management of their lives and businesses. Doesn't bother them at all, they appreciate the idea the despots of those towns know how to run their lives better than they do.


Heh heh.
 
In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.


Berkeley, California, bans candy, junk food at grocery checkouts

September 25, 2020

The city of Berkeley, California is back on the attack against unhealthy habits.

The progressive university town this time has passed an ordinance requiring stores over 2,500 square feet in size to sell more nutritious food and beverage options in their checkout areas.

That means no more candy, soda and salty snacks available for impulsive shoppers waiting in line to pay at the register. The ban is believed to be the first of its kind in the nation.

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,” said a city report on the ordinance passed this week by the city council. “Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”

I actually SUPPORT this and they are not outright banning the sale of them it's JUST from the checkout areas:

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,”

“Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”


As a parent of 6 kidlets I SUPPORT this because we should not be encouraging our children to be wanting all this crap, we should be encouraging them to eat more healthy foods. Mr. Lucy and me do allow the kidlets SOME sugary drinks and candy etc but we ALSO encourage them to eat more healthy foods and for them to learn that the sugary drinks and candy etc are ONLY to be OCCASIONAL situations. We do NOT want our kidlets full of E numbers and sugar and general bad crap that has NO nutritional value.

That's your problem, not the store's problem.

It just shows what these politicians think of us, mindless useless lemmings.
 
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It's such a crazy circle of government dependence. California spends tax money on tons of stupid shit. Economy gets stressed. People there have to work two jobs or have two incomes just to barely get by. Because of this, their kids get less quality parenting time and end up spending too much time sitting in front of screens. (too much crime to send kids out to play anymore) Now they develop bad habits, (candy, soda, poor work ethic) and get fat and lazy. Lazy people are less industrious and more inclined to look for easy ways to solve problems. They get fatter and lazier. Its ok though because California will make sure they don't get tempted to buy more candy bars when they are at the store. Then these same people have kids. We don't need to worry about personal responsibility any more. The government is here to help.
 
In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.

State and local governments have been doing this sort of thing for decades, primarily with rules involving how/when/where the display and sales of tobacco and alcohol products.

The other things to consider :
An estimated 75% of our health care expenditures go toward treating chronic lifestyle (i.e. diet, exercise, alcohol, tobacco, drugs) driven disease; so ultimately you'll be paying for the junk food your neighbors eat in the form of health care subsidies and increased insurance premiums, do you want to have some say in that equation?

Secondly, junk food is so prevalent and cheap largely because of our idiotic federal agricultural policy subsidizing the mass production of this garbage while at the same time providing ZERO subsidies for healthy alternatives, thus giving the junk food megacorps the wherewithal to hyper-market the junk that's making Americans fat, sick and nearly dead. The fact that we have epidemic levels of heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, preventable cancers, etc.., isn't an accident, it's directly linked to our abyssmal eating habits. So if that's going to be the case shouldn't state and local governments do SOMETHING to try and counter it?

I'm no fan of economic interventionism or regulation in general but if the oligarchs in charge are going to make me pony up for everyone else's health care while at the same time shelling out money to the junk food producers in the form of agricultural subsidies, I at least want a small bit of say in how merchants sell it.
 
Meanwhile.... this person not only gets the majority of her 'shovel in her face fat foods" paid for by the taxpayer... but she is also on disability, and medicaid....

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In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.


Berkeley, California, bans candy, junk food at grocery checkouts

September 25, 2020

The city of Berkeley, California is back on the attack against unhealthy habits.

The progressive university town this time has passed an ordinance requiring stores over 2,500 square feet in size to sell more nutritious food and beverage options in their checkout areas.

That means no more candy, soda and salty snacks available for impulsive shoppers waiting in line to pay at the register. The ban is believed to be the first of its kind in the nation.

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,” said a city report on the ordinance passed this week by the city council. “Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”

I actually SUPPORT this and they are not outright banning the sale of them it's JUST from the checkout areas:

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,”

“Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”


As a parent of 6 kidlets I SUPPORT this because we should not be encouraging our children to be wanting all this crap, we should be encouraging them to eat more healthy foods. Mr. Lucy and me do allow the kidlets SOME sugary drinks and candy etc but we ALSO encourage them to eat more healthy foods and for them to learn that the sugary drinks and candy etc are ONLY to be OCCASIONAL situations. We do NOT want our kidlets full of E numbers and sugar and general bad crap that has NO nutritional value.

You supprise me, Lucy. You're usually on the side of freedom. You really want government making this decision for you?

Some stores where I live have candy free checkout aisles. If stores hear from more parents then they will open more of them. You have to get involved and make your voice known.

But you want GOVERNMENT to fix this for you? I'm very surprised
 
In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.

State and local governments have been doing this sort of thing for decades, primarily with rules involving how/when/where the display and sales of tobacco and alcohol products.

The other things to consider :
An estimated 75% of our health care expenditures go toward treating chronic lifestyle (i.e. diet, exercise, alcohol, tobacco, drugs) driven disease; so ultimately you'll be paying for the junk food your neighbors eat in the form of health care subsidies and increased insurance premiums, do you want to have some say in that equation?

Secondly, junk food is so prevalent and cheap largely because of our idiotic federal agricultural policy subsidizing the mass production of this garbage while at the same time providing ZERO subsidies for healthy alternatives, thus giving the junk food megacorps the wherewithal to hyper-market the junk that's making Americans fat, sick and nearly dead. The fact that we have epidemic levels of heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, preventable cancers, etc.., isn't an accident, it's directly linked to our abyssmal eating habits. So if that's going to be the case shouldn't state and local governments do SOMETHING to try and counter it?

I'm no fan of economic interventionism or regulation in general but if the oligarchs in charge are going to make me pony up for everyone else's health care while at the same time shelling out money to the junk food producers in the form of agricultural subsidies, I at least want a small bit of say in how merchants sell it.

Awwww, what a great point. Gubermint cares about me. That's so sweet. Thanks for letting me know, now I will let them do whatever they want ...
 
In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.


Berkeley, California, bans candy, junk food at grocery checkouts

September 25, 2020

The city of Berkeley, California is back on the attack against unhealthy habits.

The progressive university town this time has passed an ordinance requiring stores over 2,500 square feet in size to sell more nutritious food and beverage options in their checkout areas.

That means no more candy, soda and salty snacks available for impulsive shoppers waiting in line to pay at the register. The ban is believed to be the first of its kind in the nation.

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,” said a city report on the ordinance passed this week by the city council. “Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”

I actually SUPPORT this and they are not outright banning the sale of them it's JUST from the checkout areas:

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,”

“Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”


As a parent of 6 kidlets I SUPPORT this because we should not be encouraging our children to be wanting all this crap, we should be encouraging them to eat more healthy foods. Mr. Lucy and me do allow the kidlets SOME sugary drinks and candy etc but we ALSO encourage them to eat more healthy foods and for them to learn that the sugary drinks and candy etc are ONLY to be OCCASIONAL situations. We do NOT want our kidlets full of E numbers and sugar and general bad crap that has NO nutritional value.
..that's where it's the parents' problem-issue and NOT the stores'....
..either the family has the discipline/culture/etc to ''avoid'' the candy/etc---and have a healthy lifestyle--or they do not
...I see fatties eating LOTS of McDs/etc all the time ....they GO to the fat foods

Stores actually spend there time trying to undermine the parents... Why worldwide are these displays put at a lower height for children... This is just marketing to children the younger the better... Life is hard enough without responsible parents having to tell their kids they are not getting things that irresponsible parents allow...
Support better parenting...
 
In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.


Berkeley, California, bans candy, junk food at grocery checkouts

September 25, 2020

The city of Berkeley, California is back on the attack against unhealthy habits.

The progressive university town this time has passed an ordinance requiring stores over 2,500 square feet in size to sell more nutritious food and beverage options in their checkout areas.

That means no more candy, soda and salty snacks available for impulsive shoppers waiting in line to pay at the register. The ban is believed to be the first of its kind in the nation.

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,” said a city report on the ordinance passed this week by the city council. “Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”
Not only is this another example of government changing someone else's business model, but it also interferes with commerce. When a government policy results in a decline of sales, it hurts people.

Leftwing government creates nothing but pain.
 
In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.

State and local governments have been doing this sort of thing for decades, primarily with rules involving how/when/where the display and sales of tobacco and alcohol products.

The other things to consider :
An estimated 75% of our health care expenditures go toward treating chronic lifestyle (i.e. diet, exercise, alcohol, tobacco, drugs) driven disease; so ultimately you'll be paying for the junk food your neighbors eat in the form of health care subsidies and increased insurance premiums, do you want to have some say in that equation?

Secondly, junk food is so prevalent and cheap largely because of our idiotic federal agricultural policy subsidizing the mass production of this garbage while at the same time providing ZERO subsidies for healthy alternatives, thus giving the junk food megacorps the wherewithal to hyper-market the junk that's making Americans fat, sick and nearly dead. The fact that we have epidemic levels of heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, preventable cancers, etc.., isn't an accident, it's directly linked to our abyssmal eating habits. So if that's going to be the case shouldn't state and local governments do SOMETHING to try and counter it?

I'm no fan of economic interventionism or regulation in general but if the oligarchs in charge are going to make me pony up for everyone else's health care while at the same time shelling out money to the junk food producers in the form of agricultural subsidies, I at least want a small bit of say in how merchants sell it.

Awwww, what a great point. Gubermint cares about me. That's so sweet. Thanks for letting me know, now I will let them do whatever they want ...

Uh-huh, I'm sorry to hear about your reading disability...

Unfortunately I must intrude into the reality distortion field you exist in and inform you that; gubmint doesn't give a fuck about you beyond your ability to shovel money its way and refrain from engaging in armed rebellion against it's authority.

Now back to what I actually wrote instead of what the voices in your head told you I wrote.....
 
In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.


Berkeley, California, bans candy, junk food at grocery checkouts

September 25, 2020

The city of Berkeley, California is back on the attack against unhealthy habits.

The progressive university town this time has passed an ordinance requiring stores over 2,500 square feet in size to sell more nutritious food and beverage options in their checkout areas.

That means no more candy, soda and salty snacks available for impulsive shoppers waiting in line to pay at the register. The ban is believed to be the first of its kind in the nation.

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,” said a city report on the ordinance passed this week by the city council. “Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”
Not only is this another example of government changing someone else's business model, but it also interferes with commerce. When a government policy results in a decline of sales, it hurts people.

Leftwing government creates nothing but pain.

This has been common in Europe for a while in some supermarkets. Parents have told Owners that they know where the sweets/candy Aisle is and they don't need the tantrum that happens when you take it off a 3 year old... They scream the place down... If a manager comes near them they will be asked what stupid f*ck put a sweets./candy in front of toddlers while there parents are busy taking out and bagging items...
I have a few friends who if they see their kid take it off the self, they tell them it is bad and throw it on the ground... Each kid does that a few times... When the staff ask, "You should make your store family friendly, sorry about that"...
 
Its good business for the stores and they all do this over here.
Anyway, you are all fat fucks so any help you can get should be welcomed.
 
In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.

State and local governments have been doing this sort of thing for decades, primarily with rules involving how/when/where the display and sales of tobacco and alcohol products.

The other things to consider :
An estimated 75% of our health care expenditures go toward treating chronic lifestyle (i.e. diet, exercise, alcohol, tobacco, drugs) driven disease; so ultimately you'll be paying for the junk food your neighbors eat in the form of health care subsidies and increased insurance premiums, do you want to have some say in that equation?

Secondly, junk food is so prevalent and cheap largely because of our idiotic federal agricultural policy subsidizing the mass production of this garbage while at the same time providing ZERO subsidies for healthy alternatives, thus giving the junk food megacorps the wherewithal to hyper-market the junk that's making Americans fat, sick and nearly dead. The fact that we have epidemic levels of heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, preventable cancers, etc.., isn't an accident, it's directly linked to our abyssmal eating habits. So if that's going to be the case shouldn't state and local governments do SOMETHING to try and counter it?

I'm no fan of economic interventionism or regulation in general but if the oligarchs in charge are going to make me pony up for everyone else's health care while at the same time shelling out money to the junk food producers in the form of agricultural subsidies, I at least want a small bit of say in how merchants sell it.

Awwww, what a great point. Gubermint cares about me. That's so sweet. Thanks for letting me know, now I will let them do whatever they want ...

Uh-huh, I'm sorry to hear about your reading disability...

Unfortunately I must intrude into the reality distortion field you exist in and inform you that; gubmint doesn't give a fuck about you beyond your ability to shovel money its way and refrain from engaging in armed rebellion against it's authority.

Now back to what I actually wrote instead of what the voices in your head told you I wrote.....

Gotcha, so you are claiming government is doing a good thing but you're not claiming that government cares about you when they do good things for you.

So how does that work then? What makes them do good things for you where they don't actually care? Why are they doing it for you then?
 
Its good business for the stores and they all do this over here.
Anyway, you are all fat fucks so any help you can get should be welcomed.

The British Snob strikes again.

Note the discussion is not whether stores should move the candy, it's whether government should make that decision and enforce it with government guns.

You don't know your onions, huh?

I thought you Brits were against guns. Ah, not the British leftists when they belong to government, huh? We have the same problem here
 
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In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.


Berkeley, California, bans candy, junk food at grocery checkouts

September 25, 2020

The city of Berkeley, California is back on the attack against unhealthy habits.

The progressive university town this time has passed an ordinance requiring stores over 2,500 square feet in size to sell more nutritious food and beverage options in their checkout areas.

That means no more candy, soda and salty snacks available for impulsive shoppers waiting in line to pay at the register. The ban is believed to be the first of its kind in the nation.

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,” said a city report on the ordinance passed this week by the city council. “Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”

Written by a man who has never had to do the grocery shopping with one or more toddlers, on a regular basis.

Every mother in the world applauds this move. Mothers have been complaining about having to run the candy gauntlet in the checkout aisle since I was a child. It's hard enough to take toddlers grocery shopping without having to endure long waits surrounded by junk food while waiting to finish your shopping and get the hell out of the store.

And you're stuck there, with a child who passed their tolerance for grocery shopping 5 minutes after you arrived at the store, who is bored and/or tired, and who absolutely doesn't need a sugar high to make them, or you, more miserable at this point.

My grocery store has baskets of bananas at the entrance for children coming into the store with their parents. It has magazines and books at the check out aisles It's a regular big box grocery store, not a hippy dippy organic outlet. It sells junk food - has a double wide aisle full of it, but not at the checkouts.
 
In my opinion, this is a great example of totalitarianism being implemented under the guise of good intentions.

It's not the job of politicians and government bureaucrats to decide where a storeowner locates their different merchandise. That decision should be up to the store owner.


Berkeley, California, bans candy, junk food at grocery checkouts

September 25, 2020

The city of Berkeley, California is back on the attack against unhealthy habits.

The progressive university town this time has passed an ordinance requiring stores over 2,500 square feet in size to sell more nutritious food and beverage options in their checkout areas.

That means no more candy, soda and salty snacks available for impulsive shoppers waiting in line to pay at the register. The ban is believed to be the first of its kind in the nation.

“This ordinance is another effort to create a healthy food environment that would support families by providing them the ability to avoid high-calorie, low-nutrient food and beverages when they do their grocery and other shopping,” said a city report on the ordinance passed this week by the city council. “Individuals and families who want to purchase sugary drinks, candy, chips, and other sweet and salty snacks will be able to find them in their respective aisles in the center of stores. By changing checkout norms, shoppers and their children face less temptation to consume sugary foods and there is less reinforcement of these unhealthy choices.”

Written by a man who has never had to do the grocery shopping with one or more toddlers, on a regular basis.

Every mother in the world applauds this move. Mothers have been complaining about having to run the candy gauntlet in the checkout aisle since I was a child. It's hard enough to take toddlers grocery shopping without having to endure long waits surrounded by junk food while waiting to finish your shopping and get the hell out of the store.

And you're stuck there, with a child who passed their tolerance for grocery shopping 5 minutes after you arrived at the store, who is bored and/or tired, and who absolutely doesn't need a sugar high to make them, or you, more miserable at this point.

My grocery store has baskets of bananas at the entrance for children coming into the store with their parents. It has magazines and books at the check out aisles It's a regular big box grocery store, not a hippy dippy organic outlet. It sells junk food - has a double wide aisle full of it, but not at the checkouts.

Boo fucking hoo. They also place candy under the counter at gas stations, gonna bitch about that now?

My god, you have to tell your kids "no". The fucking horror.

When I was a kid, if I whined about getting candy in the checkout. I got the "no", then the glare, and then I stopped, because I knew the glare was the last checkpoint before a full on scream-a-thon at home due to my shitty behavior.
 

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