Before becoming pontiff, Pope Leo levied criticism at Trump and Vance

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

what message is that?

what message?---- Jesus had nothing to do with the millions
murdered

The church of these Christians did.

 

[irosie91]

The church of these Christians did.

IMVO (In My Vaunted Opinion) Jesus had nothing to
do with that church either

 

[Mashmont]

"Christianity" has little to do with Christ's message, and everything to do with men using that message for their own enrichment and manipulation of the masses.

Christians have murdered Jews throughout the centuries using the excuse that the Jews murdered Christ. See the Spanish Inquisition.

The genocides of aboriginal peoples throughout the world, proceeded with the blessing of the Catholic Church, using the excuse that it wasn't a "sin" to murder a heathen.

In Northern Ireland, Catholics and Protestants were at war for decades.

Christ's message may be perfect, but the men who have interpreted that message are not, and have committed no end of atrocities in His name.

It is true that some bad men have killed against Christ's teaching while claiming to be Christian. There have always been bad people making false claims. But all these together don't equal the 100 million killed by atheist regimes. And these atheist leaders were not violating the tenets of godlessness. They were devout dedicated followers of it. Atheism itself is the evil, whereas Christianity itself is perfect.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

IMVO (In My Vaunted Opinion) Jesus had nothing to
do with that church either

I said nothing of the sort. Stop being soft headed.

The Christians, the representatives of Christianity, did drive them and murder them.

 

[Mashmont]

what message is that?

The message of peace and love, obviously.

what message?---- Jesus had nothing to do with the millions
murdered

No. Those who murdered had nothing to do with Jesus' perfect message. Fallible bad people do bad things.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The message of peace and love, obviously.

No. Those who murdered had nothing to do with Jesus' perfect message. Fallible bad people do bad things.

Jesus is tainted by his supposed followers' murderous ways.

 

[Mashmont]

Jesus is tainted by his supposed followers' murderous ways.

Nonsense. Jesus can't be tainted. But what is true is atheism is discredited by the horrible deeds of its adherents.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Nonsense. Jesus can't be tainted. But what is true is atheism is discredited by the horrible deeds of its adherents.

If they are His people, sure he inherits their sins.

Yes, He is responsible.

 

[Mashmont]

If they are His people, sure he inherits their sins.

Yes, He is responsible.

So by your logic atheism is totally discredited by the evil acts of it's adherents.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So by your logic atheism is totally discredited by the evil acts of it's adherents.

Only a loony would think so. I am not discrediting Christianity, either. No system is perfect is my point.

 

[irosie91]

I said nothing of the sort. Stop being soft headed.

The Christians, the representatives of Christianity, did drive them and murder them.

I did----IMVO (vaunted opinion) neither Christians or Christianity
have anything to do with Jesus. It is not clear to me what Peter
had to do with

Nonsense. Jesus can't be tainted. But what is true is atheism is discredited by the horrible deeds of its adherents.

the catholic church mediated the Inquisition---in fact a Pope
ordered it----based on the edicts of Constantine--the man who
sponsored the writing of the "NT" Constantine was not an
atheist nor was Pope Gregory VI the man who founded the
Inquisition nor was Queen Isabella of Spain

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I did----IMVO (vaunted opinion) neither Christians or Christianity
have anything to do with Jesus. It is not clear to me what Peter
had to do with

the catholic church mediated the Inquisition---in fact a Pope
ordered it----based on the edicts of Constantine--the man who
sponsored the writing of the "NT" Constantine was not an
atheist nor was Pope Gregory VI the man who founded the
Inquisition nor was Queen Isabella of Spain

Your opinion is immaterial. The Catolicos will tell you that the Catholic Church is linked through Peter the Rock to Jesus. What you think matters not to anyone else but you.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It is true that some bad men have killed against Christ's teaching while claiming to be Christian. There have always been bad people making false claims. But all these together don't equal the 100 million killed by atheist regimes. And these atheist leaders were not violating the tenets of godlessness. They were devout dedicated followers of it. Atheism itself is the evil, whereas Christianity itself is perfect.

You, apparently, don't history much?

Christians literally fought non-stop for the better part of a thousand years....purely about religion!
Never-mind all the power-plays that were masked by using the religious 'bloody flag'.
Suppression of heretics...genocide of heathens..it goes on and on.

Perhaps you might have heard of the Crusades, for example?

English Civil War ring a bell? Suppression of French Huguenots? Suppression of Cathars? Pogroms? Mass murder of Jews--time and time again. Spanish Inquisition?

Wars so long that they were named by their length..100 years war..30 years war...etc.

Christianity was used to justify slavery and aristocratic elitism..I.E. Feudalism.
Perhaps you've heard of the Divine Right of Kings?

Christianity is anything but perfect. Perhaps Christ might have been..but those who have murdered in his name..for over 2,000 years..are anything but~

 

[ElmerMudd]

You could have a room temperature IQ. IN Iceland in the winter. But I doubt it’s that high.

It is my opinion that God is not real happy with MAGA.

 

[ElmerMudd]

No matter what the Dems say, Jesus was not a socialist.

Where do you think Jesus would stand on the current USA immigration problems.

 

[BackAgain]

It is my opinion that God is not real happy with MAGA.

Nobody asked for (and nobody with any brains gives a shit about) your idiot opinions, ElmoDud.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

And who on earth gives a flying donut?

 

[ElmerMudd]

I thought liberals/democrats believed in separation of church and state. If Trump were to have this validation from God, then why would the democrats be fighting against God?

Those who advocate the seperation of church and state do not want the government to tell them what religion they must follow.
If you believe in seperation of church and state does not mean you do not mean in God.
I am not a liberl/Democrat. I am a moderate independent who believes in seperation of church and state but I will admit you have a point.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Nobody asked for (and nobody with any brains gives a shit about) your idiot opinions, ElmoDud.

You give your opinion on many issues but do not feel all others have that right.
You think the first ammendment only applies to MAGA?
Sounds like MAGA thinking.

 

[BackAgain]

You give your opinion on many issues but do not feel all others have that right.

Everyone — even shitbags like you — has a right to offer mere opinions, ya shitbag.
Try keep up, Elmo.

You think the first ammendment only applies to MAGA?

No. And nothing I’ve ever written or said suggests otherwise. Also, you imbecile, learn how to spell.

Sounds like MAGA thinking.

No. It sounds like you making shit up, as usual.