Before becoming pontiff, Pope Leo levied criticism at Trump and Vance

[beagle9]

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beagle9 Post #191 May 11, 2025 …~… You Democrat's refuse to hold yourselves accountable for your actions that has led to a person like Trump becoming President of the United States of America.

Whut I say …~… All three times I voted for the Democrat opposition which was the best candidate to help America to be rid of the stench and lawlessness of Don Trump. Why am I accountable for his attempt on January 6 2021 to rob me of my vote to be rid of the rotten SOB Don Trump.

You voted for an asshole Christian, not me. I am a rational theist not one who believes God revealed himself in a book

You are one lost puppy..

 

[BackAgain]

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BackAgain Post #335 Jun 17, 2022 …~… We are talking about what was believed at the time. At that time, it was believed that orchestrated cheating efforts by Dims at the polls in several states had given Brandon an illicit “win.”

Don Trump Jr texts to Mark Meadows written and sent before the votes were in on Nov 06, 2021 …~… “Republicans control 28 states Democrats 22 states. Once again Trump wins, WE either have a vote WE control and WE win OR it gets kicked to Congress 6 January 2021 ” 'Total Control': Trump Jr. Pushed Coup Plot In November 2020 Texts To Meadows.

Whut I say …~… We have physical solid concrete evidence that Saint Backagain pulls shit out of his ass to cover for the criminal conspirators in the Republican Party and the Don Trump crime family in their attempt to overturn the 2020 election.

According to Don Trump Jr’s texts the Trump crime family could not lose the 2020:election because if they didn’t win outright there was a criminal plot in place ahead of Election Day November 2020. The plot required using Mike Pence and fake electors to (as Don Trump Jr put it in writing before finding out Trump lost to Joe Biden) we win “or it gets kicked to Congress on 6 January 2021.

You remain fully obtuse regardless of your username change. Or is it a sock? Hardly matters. You’re a worthless slug either way.

And nobody takes seriously any allegations you ever make.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

You remain fully obtuse regardless of your username change. Or is it a sock? Hardly matters. You’re a worthless slug either way.

And nobody takes seriously any allegations you ever make.

What DJjr texted is a reality that causes you to run and hide …. your lies cannot escape from the TRUTH. J6 was planned to destroy our democracy before we all voted on Nov 6 2020.

Don Trump Jr texts to Mark Meadows written and sent before the votes were in on Nov 06, 2021 …~… “Republicans control 28 states Democrats 22 states. Once again Trump wins, WE either have a vote WE control and WE win OR it gets kicked to Congress 6 January 2021” 'Total Control': Trump Jr. Pushed Coup Plot In November 2020 Texts To Meadows.

 

[BackAgain]

What DJjr texted is a reality that causes you to run and hide …. your lies cannot escape from the TRUTH. J6 was planned to destroy our democracy before we all voted on Nov 6 2020.

Don Trump Jr texts to Mark Meadows written and sent before the votes were in on Nov 06, 2021 …~… “Republicans control 28 states Democrats 22 states. Once again Trump wins, WE either have a vote WE control and WE win OR it gets kicked to Congress 6 January 2021” 'Total Control': Trump Jr. Pushed Coup Plot In November 2020 Texts To Meadows.

Your ongoing inability to comprehend words or speak honestly precedes your every post, you smelly sock.

 

[beagle9]

Your ongoing inability to comprehend words or speak honestly precedes your every post, you smelly sock.

Their narratives died in 2020, but they refuse to let go because of their nasty agenda's.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

let’s kick it to Congress if we liose. lie about election fraud to make it happen

Your ongoing inability to comprehend words or speak honestly precedes your every post, you smelly sock.

Their narratives died in 2020, but they refuse to let go because of their nasty agenda's.

It is not a narrative ~ its in the criminal wealthy family’s exact word’s :

Don Trump Jr texts to Mark Meadows written and sent before the votes were in on Nov 06, 2021 …~… “Republicans control 28 states Democrats 22 states. Once again Trump wins, WE either have a vote WE control and WE win OR it gets kicked to Congress 6 January 2021” 'Total Control': Trump Jr. Pushed Coup Plot In November 2020 Texts To Meadows.


You would have been hsppy to destroy America’s democracy on J6. . and you will be happy if he destroys it this yesr.

You are betraying what our rational theist founding generation created for us. all for your white version of Jesus.

what Don Trump said during his J6speech to the mob he gathered in DC to assist in overturning the election that he lost… : “All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” Tiiidotrmp J6-happiest people

You would “become president” by fraud … with a criminal and be happy about it ~ happy about killing democracy for sick power so you can wallow in hate

 

[beagle9]

It is not a narrative ~ its in the criminal wealthy family’s exact word’s :

Don Trump Jr texts to Mark Meadows written and sent before the votes were in on Nov 06, 2021 …~… “Republicans control 28 states Democrats 22 states. Once again Trump wins, WE either have a vote WE control and WE win OR it gets kicked to Congress 6 January 2021” 'Total Control': Trump Jr. Pushed Coup Plot In November 2020 Texts To Meadows.


You would have been hsppy to destroy Americs on J6. . and you will be happy if he destroys it this yesr.

You are betraying what our rational theist founding generation created for us. all for your white version of Jesus.

what Don Trump said during his J6speech to the mob he gathered in DC to assist in overturning the election that he lost… : “All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” Tiiidotrmp J6-happiest people

You would “become president” by fraud … with a criminal and be happy about it ~ happy about killing democracy for sick power so you can wallow in hate

None of what you are using suggest any type of corruption, because as he said it has to be sent back to congress if there is a problem, otherwise congress would become the decider once the evidence was reviewed. In both examples you gave it was the same thing or scenario, otherwise it would be a step in the direction that they felt things should go, but they still wouldn't be the final decider of it all. Now stop with your fake narratives.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

None of what you are using suggest any type of corruption, because as he said it has to be sent back to congress if there is a problem, otherwise congress would become the decider once the evidence was reviewed. In both examples you gave it was the same thing or scenario, otherwise it would be a step in the direction that they felt things should go, but they still wouldn't be the final decider of it all. Now stop with your fake narratives.

No The corruption was the fake electors cerificates in seven states that Pence was supposed to use on J6 to get it kicked to Congress on J6. the vote was supposed to happen on J6. not after investigations

That is why Trump told the mob and you this:


what Don Trump said during his J6speech to the mob he gathered in DC to assist in overturning the election that he lost… : “All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” Tiiidotrmp J6-happiest people

The states were not going to recertify - that was a lie.

Pence was supposed to immediately declare Trump the winner by not counting those states with fake electors Then Congress was ging to kick in and certify the winner to make you white Christians happy and black Christians unhappy.

Pence would not commit fraud so you wanted to hsng him by the neck until he was dead

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Kick it to Congress Bumped up. Truth

I've heard reference to "fake electors" in passing from time to time but had no knowledge of what had really occured.

60 Minutes is currently airing on TV and they did a segment on this topic which I find particularly interesting in light of the events of the last few days. Of course I'm referring to the conviction of the former U.S. president Donald J. Trump and the subsequent outrage in response.

By Jonathan Allen​

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WASHINGTON — Former President Donald Trump's team orchestrated a plot to overturn the 2020 election by organizing slates of alternate "fake electors" in seven pivotal states, according to testimony and documents presented Tuesday by the House Jan. 6 committee.​

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During its fourth public hearing, the committee revealed that the fake electors submitted false certifications of Trump victories to the National Archives in hopes of having then-Vice President Mike Pence substitute them for the actual electoral votes that made Joe Biden president.​

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Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel said in pre-recorded testimony that Trump called her so that one of his lawyers, John Eastman, could outline how the party organization could play its part in trying to certify Trump slates from states that voted for Biden.​

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"Essentially he turned the call over to Mr. Eastman who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the RNC helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result of any of the states," McDaniel said, revealing Trump's direct knowledge of the effort to undermine the election.​

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The effort to organize counterfeit electors was one part of a broader campaign by the just-defeated president to cling to power.​

But, according to the committee, it demonstrated Trump's willingness to use any means — regardless of their legality — to reverse the will of voters. Trump's team turned to the "fake electors" plan when it became clear that state officials in Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania and other key battlegrounds would not overturn the results in their states and replace Biden electors with Trump electors.​

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Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, said in recorded testimony that the White House counsel's office advised Meadows, Giuliani and others that the plan was not legally sound. And two Trump campaign lawyers, Justin Clark and Matt Morgan, testified that they were uncomfortable with the idea of tapping fake electors.​

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The tactical details of the effort, according to evidence presented Tuesday, included a clandestine plot for fake electors to sleep overnight in the Michigan Capitol, the involvement of members of Congress, and a Trump campaign request for false Wisconsin certification documents to be flown across state lines to Washington in time for the Jan. 6 count.​

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Laura Cox, former chair of the Michigan Republican Party, testified in a video clip that a person affiliated with the Trump campaign told her about the sleepover stratagem.​

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"He told me that the Michigan Republican electors were planning to meet in the Capitol and hide overnight so that they could fulfill the role of casting their vote per law in the Michigan chambers," she said. "And I told him in no uncertain terms that was insane and inappropriate."​

And a Wisconsin Republican complained in a text message about the Trump campaign's Jan. 4, 2021, search for a plane to carry false certification documents.​

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"Freaking Trump idiots want someone to fly original elector papers to the senate President [Pence]," Mark Jefferson, the executive director of the Wisconsin GOP, wrote. "They're going to call one of us to tell us just what the hell is going on."​

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When Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers, a Trump supporter who rebuffed Trump adviser Rudy Giuliani's entreaties to switch electors in his state, learned that fake electors had met, he was shocked.​

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"I thought, this is tragic parody," he testified at Thursday's hearing. Bowers also alleged that Giuliani acknowledged the absence of evidence for Trump's claims of election fraud.​

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Continued at the hyperlink below​

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-team-orchestrated-fake-electors-try-overturn-election-jan-6-comm-rcna34605​

what Don Trump said during his J6speech to the mob he gathered in DC to assist in overturning the election that he lost… : …~… “All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.”


whut Don Trump Jr texted on November 5, 2020 to Mark Meadows; “Republicans control 28 states Democrats 22 states. Once again Trump wins, WE either have a vote WE control and WE win OR it gets kicked to Congress 6 January 2021 ” 'Total Control': Trump Jr. Pushed Coup Plot In November 2020 Texts To Meadows.

 

[beagle9]

No The corruption was the fake electors cerificates in seven states that Pence was supposed to use on J6 to get it kicked to Congress on J6. the vote was supposed to happen on J6. not after investigations

That is why Trump told the mob and you this:


what Don Trump said during his J6speech to the mob he gathered in DC to assist in overturning the election that he lost… : “All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” Tiiidotrmp J6-happiest people

The states were not going to recertify - that was a lie.

Pence was supposed to immediately declare Trump the winner by not counting those states with fake electors Then Congress was ging to kick in and certify the winner to make you white Christians happy and black Christians unhappy.

Pence would not commit fraud so you wanted to hsng him by the neck until he was dead

The electors would be selected for certification only in a special circumstance because the normalcy of the process would have already passed, but first the investigation that would review the evidence of a possible rigged election had to take place, and this was to happen once Pence delayed the process pending a review that was needed after that determination was made by Pence upon that day.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

but first the investigation that would review the evidence of a possible rigged election had to take place, and this was to happen once Pence delayed the process pending a review that was needed after that determination was made by Pence upon that day.

You are not being honest with yourself. The inauguration was two weeks away. There was no time for investigations and a review of anything. Trump said on January 6, 2021 that if Mike Pence does the right thing he would become president instead of Joe Biden instantly. Pence was supposed to declare Trump the winner on January 6 and then Congress was supposed to certify a that fraudulent election. But it was only flawed based on fraud committed by Donald Trump and his lousy, rotten son and Mark Meadows and a handful of Republican Congress people.

 

[beagle9]

You are not being honest with yourself the inauguration was two weeks away. There was no time for investigations and a review of anything. Trump said on January 6, 2021 that if Mike Pence does the right thing he would become president instead of Joe Biden. Principal was supposed to declare Trump the winner on January 6 and then Congress was supposed to certify a flawed election. But it was only flawed based on fraud committed by Donald Trump and his lousy, rotten son and Mark Meadows and a handful of Republican Congress people.

If the vote was delayed pending investigation, then that investigation would take an appropriate time period before a certification could take place. Yes it would probably be done quickly as a nation would be awaiting the result's, but a needed time period would pass during the review.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

What do you disagree with. SaintBeagle?

I’ll be on a plane from Norway back to the US for the rest of the day. Take your time present your evidence.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

None of what you are using suggest any type of corruption, because as he said it has to be sent back to congress if there is a problem, otherwise congress would become the decider once the evidence was reviewed. In both examples you gave it was the same thing or scenario, otherwise it would be a step in the direction that they felt things should go, but they still wouldn't be the final decider of it all. Now stop with your fake narratives.

"sent back to congress" was not an option because J6 was a procedural ceremony validating the receipt of electoral votes not to see "if there is a problem."

 

[BackAgain]

let’s kick it to Congress if we liose. lie about election fraud to make it happen







It is not a narrative ~ its in the criminal wealthy family’s exact word’s :

Don Trump Jr texts to Mark Meadows written and sent before the votes were in on Nov 06, 2021 …~… “Republicans control 28 states Democrats 22 states. Once again Trump wins, WE either have a vote WE control and WE win OR it gets kicked to Congress 6 January 2021” 'Total Control': Trump Jr. Pushed Coup Plot In November 2020 Texts To Meadows.


You would have been hsppy to destroy America’s democracy on J6. . and you will be happy if he destroys it this yesr.

You are betraying what our rational theist founding generation created for us. all for your white version of Jesus.

what Don Trump said during his J6speech to the mob he gathered in DC to assist in overturning the election that he lost… : “All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” Tiiidotrmp J6-happiest people

You would “become president” by fraud … with a criminal and be happy about it ~ happy about killing democracy for sick power so you can wallow in hate

 

[mudwhistle]

What a surprise..the new Pope is not a fan of our Govt.

https://www.reuters.com/world/before-becoming-pontiff-pope-leo-levied-criticism-trump-vance-2025-05-08/

Pope Leo XIV, who was chosen on Thursday, has a history of criticizing President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance's policies, according to posts on the X account of Robert Prevost, his name before he ascended to be head of the Catholic Church.

In February he reposted an article with the following headline: "JD Vance is wrong: Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for others."

In April, when Trump met with El Salvador President Nayib Bukele to discuss using a prison where alleged human rights abuses took place to jail suspected gang members flown from the United States, Prevost reposted a comment that included: "Do you not see the suffering? Is your conscience not disturbed?"
Reuters could not immediately verify who operated the account, which made its first post in 2011. Reuters reached out to the Vatican, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Chiclayo in Peru, where Prevost was based for years, and the Peruvian Embassy to the Holy See to confirm the authenticity of the account, which has the handle @drprevost
and includes posts calling for prayers for the late Pope Francis in his final months.

Pope Leo is expected to follow in the footsteps of Francis, a champion of the poor and of immigrants, who also had his differences with the Trump administration. Vance, who met with Francis at the Vatican the day before he died, played down those differences after the meeting, but they were substantial. Francis had called Trump's immigration policies a disgrace.

I tend to believe all of the people chanting "**** Joe Biden" over some generic celebrity statement made that can be attributed to anything besides Trump.

So a guy virtue-signals and he gets elected Pope.

What a surprise that you leftists tried to point it out.

However, not everyone has Trump living in their heads rent-free 24/7.

 

[luiza]

The two Popes with the Satanist thumb on knuckle hand shake .

Fast tracked Rob has a history of left wing antics and ignoring the sexual antics of priests .

Looks like it was a Fake Election to ensure the Jesuits continue to wield their Evil influence

F

 

[GLASNOST]

... the Satanist thumb on knuckle hand shake

BRILLIANT!

 

[luiza]

BRILLIANT!

Poor old EmilyCryWeevil always flounders .
Poor old lady . Reduced to head nodding and hoping it does not fall off .

 

[initforme]

Atheists have done far more killing and raping than all Christians combined in history. Nothing is close to your vile cult.

As a lifelong Christian I would be the first in line to fight against a theocracy, even a Christian one. The militant fundamentalists scare me as much if not more than atheists.