Barr did not say there was no widespread election fraud, as falsely reported.

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That is another lie.

Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.”

However he also continued saying;
“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all,” he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. ... And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”


He also stated ;
"To date,
we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
However, THIS is the misleading headline;

 

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That is another lie.

Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.”

However he also continued saying;
“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all,” he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. ... And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”


He also stated ;
"To date,
we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
However, THIS is the misleading headline;

To quote your own OP, refuting the name of the thread:

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
 
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To quote your own OP, refuting the name of the thread:

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
That means that so far there isn't enough evidence in an ongoing investigation for him to publicly speculate.
 

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That is another lie.

Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.”

However he also continued saying;
“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all,” he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. ... And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”


He also stated ;
"To date,
we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
However, THIS is the misleading headline;

I wondered why the OP refused to post the actual interview.

This is why. FAKE NEWS.
 

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To quote your own OP, refuting the name of the thread:

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
That means that so far there isn't enough evidence in an ongoing investigation for him to publicly speculate.
So you're citing hypothetical future evidence that you don't have?

No wonder you fell for the 911 Truther conspiracy.
 

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That is another lie.

Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.”

However he also continued saying;
“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all,” he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. ... And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”


He also stated ;
"To date,
we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
However, THIS is the misleading headline;

Yeah, you run with that

:lol:
 
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So he did say exactly what you said he didn't say.

we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.

Do those words mean something differently to you in your language?
Not the same as - Nobody has found .....
"We" means his department and whatever investigations that he's aware of.

"Haven't seen" is an ambiguous term that can have a number of different meanings.
 
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The DOJ working with the FBI and DHS to investigate the claims made by Trump, attorneys, legislators, AG's and governors they have all been looking and investigating yet nothing of major significance has been found based on allegations of massive abuse of the election system.
But that won't stop the crazy.
 

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So he did say exactly what you said he didn't say.

we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.

Do those words mean something differently to you in your language?
Not the same as - Nobody has found .....
"We" means his department and whatever investigations that he's aware of.

"Haven't seen" is an ambiguous term that can have a number of different meanings.
Not in the English language.
 

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Speaking of investigations, ya gotta love the NY Times headline;

Barr Makes Durham a Special Counsel in a Bid to Entrench Scrutiny of the Russia Inquiry
which runs afoul of DOJ policy

 

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So he did say exactly what you said he didn't say.

we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.

Do those words mean something differently to you in your language?
Not the same as - Nobody has found .....
"We" means his department and whatever investigations that he's aware of.

"Haven't seen" is an ambiguous term that can have a number of different meanings.
Or, Barr was quite clear. And you're just ignoring him and making up whatever fantasy you wish instead.

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
 
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Or, Barr was quite clear. And you're just ignoring him and making up whatever fantasy you wish instead.

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
He's stating an opinion.
You're not very clever are you ?
 

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Or, Barr was quite clear. And you're just ignoring him and making up whatever fantasy you wish instead.

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
He's stating an opinion.
You're not very clever are you ?
He's stating the findings of the DOJ investigations. Again, from the link in your OP.

Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

Which, of course, you ignored....and made up whatever fantasy you wished instead.
 

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That is another lie.

Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.”

However he also continued saying;
“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all,” he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. ... And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”


He also stated ;
"To date,
we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr said.
However, THIS is the misleading headline;

"As falsely reported" -- translation: "as I falsely inserted in my title so I could knock it down"

 

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